Assault on the Capitol (DC)
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I'm convinced a number of these guys are mentally ill, and I'm not convinced they can be helped. What I'm not sure of is whether it's better to incarcerate them, or just send their bodies to the fertilizer factory.
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Just received this update email and sharing it in spoiler. When you look at the volume, it's pretty amazing what the DOJ is getting done.
Update to Capitol Breach Cases Webpage
U.S. Department of Justice <usdoj@public.govdelivery.com> Fri, Feb 4, 2022 at 1:19 PM
Reply-To: usdoj@public.govdelivery.com
The United States Department of Justice
This information has been added or updated: Capitol Breach Cases for U.S. Department of Justice.
Entry Last Updated: Fri, 04 Feb 2022 09:11:48 -0500
CHANSLEY, Jacob Anthony (aka Jacob Angeli)
02/04/2022 09:10 AM EST
Case number: 1:21-cr-3
Name: CHANSLEY, Jacob Anthony (aka Jacob Angeli)
Charges:
Civil Disorder; Obsrtuction of an Official Proceeding; Entering and Remaining in a Restricted Building; Disorderly and Disruptive Conduct in a Restricted Building; Violent Entry and Disorderly Conduct in a Capitol Building; Parading, Demonstrating, or Picketing in a Capitol Building
Associated Documents: Associated document, Associated document, Associated document, Associated document, Associated document
Location of arrest: ARIZONA, Phoenix
Case status:
Arrested 1/9/21. Indicted 1/11/21. Arraigned 1/29/21 and pleaded not guilty to all counts.
Plea agreement entered 9/3.
Sentenced 11/17 to 41 months in prison followed by 36 months supervised release.
Defendant remains committed.
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In case you've memory holed him, Hostetter is the police chief turned yogi turned insurrectionist that is going pro se.
Scott MacFarlane @MacFarlaneNews wrote: Feds want extra time to continue to prepare evidence. (One of the largest criminal investigations in Justice Dept history)
Prosecutor says co-defendants are OK with a time extension.. but indicates Hostetter is not
Standby....
Judge is going to extend deadlines nonetheless. Til March 31
Prosecutor asks the court to "admonish" Hostetter for filing *sealed* materials in his motion to dismiss case. (Hostetter is serving as his own lawyer)
Judge tells Hostetter to make sure he's in compliance in future
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G.O.P. Declares Jan. 6 Attack ‘Legitimate Political Discourse’
The Republican National Committee voted to censure Representatives Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger for participating in the inquiry into the deadly riot at the Capitol.
By Jonathan Weisman and Reid J. Epstein
Feb. 4, 2022
Updated 1:41 p.m. ET
WASHINGTON — The Republican Party on Friday officially declared the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol and events that led to it “legitimate political discourse,” formally rebuking two lawmakers in the party who have been most outspoken in condemning the deadly riot and the role of Donald J. Trump in spreading the election lies that fueled it.
The Republican National Committee’s overwhelming voice vote to censure Representatives Liz Cheney of Wyoming and Adam Kinzinger of Illinois at its winter meeting in Salt Lake City culminated more than a year of vacillation, which started with party leaders condemning the Capitol attack and Mr. Trump’s conduct, then shifted to downplaying and denying it.
On Friday, the party went further in a resolution slamming Ms. Cheney and Mr. Kinzinger for taking part in the House investigation of the assault, saying they were participating in “persecution of ordinary citizens engaged in legitimate political discourse.”
It was an extraordinary statement about the deadliest attack on the Capitol in 200 years, in which a mob of Mr. Trump’s supporters stormed the complex, brutalizing police officers and sending lawmakers into hiding. Nine people died in connection with the attack and more than 150 officers were injured. The party passed the resolution without discussion and almost without dissent.
The censure is the latest and most forceful effort by the Republican Party to minimize what happened and the broader attempt by Mr. Trump and his allies to invalidate the results of the 2020 election. In approving it and opting to punish two of its own, Republicans seemed to embrace a position that many of them have only hinted at: that the assault and the actions that preceded it were acceptable.
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/04/us/p ... nsure.html
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PS. well, well, well ... then those BLM and Antifa riots like in Portland WA become also ‘Legitimate Political Discourse’. not?
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The Republican Party has officially gone completely insane.
“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” —John Adams
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They are never, ever living this one down.
The meme generator is broken.
"Justifiable Political Discourse" Mmm hmm.
The meme generator is broken.
"Justifiable Political Discourse" Mmm hmm.
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Whatever sane republicans still remain in the party need to get out and form a new conservative party ASAP. They need to abandon these fascists and start fighting against them. This should have already been happening. Granted, they won't be able to win many elections initially, but it could weaken the republican party enough to make stealing elections harder for them - particularly if some/most of the voter suppression/we'll-pick-the-winner laws get overturned by courts (should there be suits about that already or is there something that has to happen before such suits can be filed?).
Maybe I'm still living in a state of denial, believing there actually ARE republicans who disagree with the general direction of the party, but I don't think so. I think some of them are just waiting for a national leader to step up and give them something to organize around or are too scared of letting democrats have too much power. I dunno, but everything going on in the republican party right now is just insane.
Maybe I'm still living in a state of denial, believing there actually ARE republicans who disagree with the general direction of the party, but I don't think so. I think some of them are just waiting for a national leader to step up and give them something to organize around or are too scared of letting democrats have too much power. I dunno, but everything going on in the republican party right now is just insane.
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Liz Cheney, demonstrating why she can't cut it in today's Republican party.
“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” —John Adams
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People who should of used their noggin on the 6th...Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney wrote: HAPPENING NOW: Jan. 6 defendant Richard Barnard, facing sentencing for a misdemeanor charge, tells a judge he lost a "six figure job," his retirement and his credit rating.
"There’s nothing the court can do to me that will come even close to what I’ve lost."
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Fucked around....
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The censure: https://int.nyt.com/data/documenttools/ ... 8/full.pdf
It's bad. They're crazy.
It's bad. They're crazy.
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How did he lose his retirement? 401(k), vested pension, and personal investments and savings remain his.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:09 pmPeople who should of used their noggin on the 6th...Kyle Cheney @kyledcheney wrote: HAPPENING NOW: Jan. 6 defendant Richard Barnard, facing sentencing for a misdemeanor charge, tells a judge he lost a "six figure job," his retirement and his credit rating.
"There’s nothing the court can do to me that will come even close to what I’ve lost."
Edit: Anyone know what the six-figure job was? Unlike with many defendants I’m not seeing it.
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How far did the pendulum have to swing before I felt compelled to buy Rep Cheney a beer?
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Just look at any of her votes or positions that DON'T have to do with Trump or January 6th and they will disabuse you of that notion. But yeah, one can at least disagree with her politically without her being a complete wack job, unlike the rest of the Republican party (minus Kinzinger.)Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:29 pm How far did the pendulum have to swing before I felt compelled to buy Rep Cheney a beer?
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Both call Democrats all sorts of stupid names and have deplorable stances on issues.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:38 pmJust look at any of her votes or positions that DON'T have to do with Trump or January 6th and they will disabuse you of that notion. But yeah, one can at least disagree with her politically without her being a complete wack job, unlike the rest of the Republican party (minus Kinzinger.)Slim Cognito wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:29 pm How far did the pendulum have to swing before I felt compelled to buy Rep Cheney a beer?
Who had Cheney becoming a pariah among Republicans on their bingo card?
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To be generous, I inferred he meant "the retirement I had envisioned," e.g, the golden years playing golf and sipping martinis.pipistrelle wrote: ↑Fri Feb 04, 2022 3:19 pmHow did he lose his retirement? 401(k), vested pension, and personal investments and savings remain his.
Instead, he'll be working longer, for less, and will not enjoy his later years as much.
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I notice that there is no license plate on that camper. I can't see if the car has plates, or if it has plates that explain to any passing police officer that the vehicle (not car) is not being operated in commerce and therefore needs no license plate.
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"Legitimate Political Discourse"
Republican National Committee
Fuck every single one of them.
Republican National Committee
Fuck every single one of them.
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They seem to forget WE WATCHED IT ON THE TEE VEE AT THE TIME, so it's kind of hard to persuade a lot of people that it didn't happen.
The more I learn about this planet, the more improbable it all seems.
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Doesn't matter.
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-44959340Donald Trump wrote:What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening.
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At the end of the above story, there is a bit avout once they took the kids to CPS, they were spouting Svo nonsense, too. That's reason enough for me to never let them see the kids again.
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