School related violence

[filly]

Just curious — how is different from some other juvenile shootings?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ethan-cru ... g?ref=home

[raison de arizona]

His parents have no sense at all. And it cost four children their lives. They deserve to go to jail.

[filly]

Yes the documentary facts show why the parents were charged. Wouldn’t be surprised if they were at the Insurrection.

[Kendra]

LOCK THEM UP!

[raison de arizona]

Yes the documentary facts show why the parents were charged. Wouldn’t be surprised if they were at the Insurrection.

Yup.


Further details from prosecutor:

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[pipistrelle]

Just curious — how is different from some other juvenile shootings?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ethan-cru ... g?ref=home

Thanks. I didn’t know most of the context.

[andersweinstein]

There are videos of this. They are terrifying. He knocked doors and pretended to be a sheriff attempting to get people to open the doors, telling them it was all clear.

That was a chilling video, but police have since said it was not him.

"We have now been able to determine that was not the suspect. More than likely, it was one of our plain-clothes detectives, and he may have been talking, 'bro' in a conversational manner to try to bring them down from the crisis.

"The suspect, we have now confirmed by analyzing all of the video from the time it began to the time we took him into custody never knocked on a door."

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/ ... 820367002/

[raison de arizona]

Thanks for the follow up Anders.

[RTH10260]

more of same - NYT version

Michigan Shooting Suspect’s Parents Charged With Involuntary Manslaughter
“Help me,” the teenager accused of killing four of his classmates had scrawled in class hours before the shooting. His parents refused to bring him home and didn’t ask whether he had the handgun they had bought for him days before, a prosecutor said.

By Jack Healy and Serge F. Kovaleski
Dec. 3, 2021 Updated 2:03 p.m. ET

Prosecutors in Michigan took a rare step on Friday by filing involuntary manslaughter charges against the parents of the 15-year-old accused of fatally shooting four students in the halls of Oxford High School, saying that they had bought the semiautomatic handgun that he used to carry out the deadly rampage as a Christmas gift.

Karen D. McDonald, the prosecutor in Oakland County, detailed a litany of missed opportunities to prevent the shooting as she spoke at a news conference announcing four manslaughter charges each against the gunman’s parents, James and Jennifer Crumbley.

On the morning of the Nov. 30 shooting, the suspect’s parents were urgently called into the high school after one of his teachers found an alarming note he had drawn, scrawled with images of a gun, a person who had been shot and a laughing emoji, and the words, “Blood everywhere,” and, “The thoughts won’t stop. Help me.”

The day before the shooting, a teacher had seen the suspect searching online for ammunition for the gun in class, which led to a meeting with school officials, the prosecutor said. After being informed by the school about their son’s behavior, Mrs. Crumbley texted to her son: “LOL, I’m not mad at you. You have to learn not to get caught,” Ms. McDonald said.

School officials told the parents during the in-person meeting on Tuesday that they were required to seek counseling for their son, Ethan, Ms. McDonald said. The teenager’s parents did not want their son to be removed from school that day, and did not ask him whether he had the gun with him or search the backpack he brought with him to the office, Ms. McDonald said.

“The notion that a parent could read those words and also know their son had access to a deadly weapon, that they gave him, is unconscionable and I think it’s criminal. It is criminal,” she said.

Ms. McDonald said the teenager’s parents had been storing the newly purchased 9-millimeter Sig Sauer pistol unlocked in a bedroom drawer.



https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/03/us/c ... oting.html

[raison de arizona]

The parents have bailed on the law and on their lawyers. Find them, bring them in! Charge whoever is helping them as accessories.

[filly]

Yep on the run! https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/ ... 855814002/

Told my husband this would happen! All interesting except we are on the freeway right near Oxford!

[filly]

No sign of cops anywhere!!

[pipistrelle]

Kid’s still in jail and they ran?

[filly]

Probably in Florida by now!

[Kendra]

This is getting twistier by the minute.

[raison de arizona]

Probably in Florida by now!

Maybe DeSantis can call out his private army to protect them!

Kid’s still in jail and they ran?

Apple, tree.

[filly]

This is getting twistier by the minute.

Yep still no signs of LE. Sheriff looked good…until today.

[raison de arizona]

Iffin' you see a 2021 white Kia Seltos, run! Or draw your gun. Just look out.

[MsDaisy]

Kid’s still in jail and they ran?

Where the hell do they think they can hide after this? It's obvious they have no concern over their son.

WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTRY!!!

[pipistrelle]

Kid’s still in jail and they ran?

Where the hell do they think they can hide after this? It's obvious they have no concern over their son.

My point exactly. They bailed on their own kid. Assuming he’s an only child.

[raison de arizona]

Kid’s still in jail and they ran?

Where the hell do they think they can hide after this? It's obvious they have no concern over their son.

My point exactly. They bailed on their own kid. Assuming he’s an only child.

The father has another older child that he apparently has a history of failing to pay child support on, FWIW. I had a link somewhere but I closed the tab.

Edit: Here it is: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents ... 70168140-1

[Jim]

My point exactly. They bailed on their own kid. Assuming he’s an only child.

What's worse is they set him up for a lifetime behind bars, then abandoned him.

[filly]

Recall this woman was crying poverty. Money for new cars, new guns, lawyers. Daddy owes Child support in Florida. Still haven’t seen ANY COPS.

[Jim]

We could almost start a poll on how they get caught...

I'll go with one of them leaves their phone on and leads the cops right to them.

[qbawl]

Looks like a Ford Bronco. Is there a low speed chase?