An absolutely pathetic degree of historical and political ignorance.
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Occam's Razor.woodworker wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:40 pm Their final count was very simple -- they looked at the official totals and picked some numbers close to that as their final count.
So, the final report wasn't the final report? The final report was based on only 87% of the ballots?covfefe wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 12:50 amhttps://www.azcentral.com/story/news/po ... 094144001/New Arizona audit review shows Cyber Ninjas didn't count 312K ballots, double counted 23K
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Cyber Ninjas CEO Doug Logan did not respond to requests for comment Monday. But in an Oct. 6 statement, he refuted claims that the hand count was inaccurate. He said the hand count wasn't finished when the 695-page report on the counts was compiled.![]()
The analysis follows an Oct. 1 report by The Audit Guys that said the hand count was "fiction." They based their conclusion on 17 pages extracted from the 695-page report that showed a 10% error rate in the count, an estimated 200,000 ballots.
The full report shows the numbers were worse, Moore said. In addition to missing hundreds of thousands of ballots, they double counted thousands more, he said.
The numbers repudiate the Cyber Ninjas' claim that its tallies closely matched the county's official election results, according to The Audit Guys.
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Any. Day. Now.A claim that nearly 23,000 ballots were counted twice during the recent Arizona State Senate audit while 167,000 ballots were never counted is misleading, according to a key member of the team which looked into how Maricopa County handled the 2020 General Election.
Senate Audit Liaison Ken Bennett says is it “totally illogical” for those not involved in the audit to attempt to formulate any findings by extrapolating data from the Senate’s machine count of ballots and comparing it with the Cyber Ninjas’ hand count focused on the votes for President on those ballots.
“There is no way they can come to any reasonable conclusions with the numbers they looked at,” Bennett told Arizona Daily Independent. “There is still some pretty important back-up information forthcoming from Cyber Ninjas.”
The conclusions Bennett is referring to were released earlier this week by “the Audit Guys,” made up of Larry Moore of Clear Ballot Group; Tim Halvorsen, formerly of Clear Ballot; and Benny White, a data analyst.
Officials with Clear Ballot, which offers ballot-tabulation services, had made it known to Senate President Karen Fann that the company was interested in assisting with the audit. Fann declined the offer, but the men undertook various reviews of Maricopa County’s election data on their own.
Bennett even reached out to Moore during the audit for an independent “spot check” of batch reports on 24 of the 1,681 boxes turned over by Maricopa County in response to a Senate audit. However, Bennett soon discovered that someone involved in the spot check leaked information to the media.
Bennett believes it is a “disservice” for outsiders like the Audit Guys to insist they know what happened within the audit, because not all of audit activities are finished. He says the audit team is awaiting Cyber Ninjas’ final reports as well as the forthcoming review of Maricopa County’s routers. And of course, the Arizona Attorney General’s election integrity unit has initiated an investigation based on Fann’s request.
“There is much more happening and it is important to allow the process to be done properly,” he said.
In the meantime, Bennett has agreed to take part in several townhalls across the state to talk about his experience with the audit. Information on dates and locations can be found at https://lookaheadamerica.org/aztownhall/
Everyone won't leave their job over the manatees…
Interesting hearing. My comments are posted as spoilers so less scrolling is necessary.
Is it too much to ask that Clements settle on a pro- or anti- position on Nuremberg? (Were the trials necessary to deter future humanitarian horrors (like non-consensual experiments) or just shows to railroad?)
The technical answer is that he's not. But the broader answer is that Clements has dived deep in the Big Lie, to pander to the MAGA crowd (and its leader). With the Arizona fraudit being both a tool and symbol of the Big Lie.Sam the Centipede wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:07 am I have lost the plot on why David Clements is relevant to the AZ fraudit
They did. Clements tried so hard to bait the hearing board. It was obnoxious.Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:43 pm Brava, L MK! your summary took me back to my lawyering days and representing teachers at hearings. The University's lawyers prepped the hearing board very well.
Request at the linky.The Arizona Senate has presented disputed communications related to its "audit" of the 2020 Presidential election to Superior Court Judge John Hannah on Tuesday, while asking him to defer any public release so that they can (again) appeal to keep them under wraps.
"The Senate believes that rushed, piecemeal, and potentially redundant appellate review ill-serves the imperatives of careful deliberation and judicial economy," attorneys Kory Langhofer and Tom Basile write. They specifically mention appealing the "legislative privilege" issue, which Superior Court Judge John Hannah firmly rejected in his earlier ruling (in original article).
Hannah had given the Senate until the end of the day Tuesday to turn over six sets of records related to the election "audit". This is in the public records lawsuit brought by the Arizona Republic. There is a similar case brought by American Oversight.
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Shiva just got a question on his open forum about the "discrepancy" of 216k early ballots not recorded as received.
The answer is and always will be election day drop offs. Instead he's going on about Liz Harris efforts.
Shiva smartly skirted a written question from a guy in Mesa (who used the Q wwg thing as his signature) about Sharpies and how they affected the election.
You know, the thing that Logan himself put to bed.
He thinks signature verification in Maricopa uses an algorithm.
Now he's doing the inspiring video where he tells people to do their own research and he's training them to bypass the authorities.
Next call from lake Havasu City someone saying that Martha McSally lost her 2018 election with found ballots.
Liz Harris says that 2018 was a trial run for 2020.
Just to be clear we're still talking about early votes and the fact that they don't like that they take a while
That was a reference to the movie Alien. Inartfully done.roadscholar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:10 amInartfully, I assume. When does the defective stapling begin?![]()
Still one of the top moments of the Orly cases for me. In a few short words, they perfectly illustrated an Orly filing.roadscholar wrote: ↑Wed Oct 13, 2021 9:10 amInartfully, I assume. When does the defective stapling begin?![]()