In the case of the Cyber Nutjobs, the ability to count accurately: 1, 2, 3, …,1,040,772, 1,040,773, 1,040,774, yes, that's a lot of votes for Biden.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:39 pmqbawl wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 2:35 pm In short, what Pulitzer proposes is a new form of high-tech forensic analysis which can be a vital empirical tool for objectively determining the route a ballot paper took from being printed, sent to the voter, handled by the voter, returned by mail, processed by ballot handlers and counted by a Dominion voting machine. What more can anyone ask in determining the truth?
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Don't play with the nuclear football...
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I know I am a bit of a broken record on this.. but I suspect someone hired a student who was really exited about machine learning and now they think they can find anything if they throw enough data at it... or maybe just a little data with a bunch of transforms. so take maybe half a dozen ballots that you have manhandled, a dozen that you have not, and poof, you have a detection algorithm!
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Sorry, your map is wrong. You know that one tree you found in Mohave County at the bottom of the Grand Canyon? I cut it down last year.much ado wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:48 pmI'm a botanist. Love hickory tress. There were many different species where I grew up in SE Ohio. None here in California. Here is a map of the distribution of hickories in the US. The genus Carya is found in the bright green counties. I wrote the software for BONAP that produced this map.Phoenix520 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 03, 2021 12:29 pm “Traders”
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Keith wasn't under oath when he said that!!!!
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I have hickory trees in my yard. Y'all are welcome to them. You might have to fight the squirrels for them, though.
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You may be right but no matter who they have do whatever, they ruined useful results (real-word useful, not sell it to the RWNJ useful). If you look at it in say, a DMAIC cycle:neeneko wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:21 pmI know I am a bit of a broken record on this.. but I suspect someone hired a student who was really exited about machine learning and now they think they can find anything if they throw enough data at it... or maybe just a little data with a bunch of transforms. so take maybe half a dozen ballots that you have manhandled, a dozen that you have not, and poof, you have a detection algorithm!
Define
Measure
Analyze
Improve
Control
They happily skip right over Define so do not know the process and what it is to achieve at any given point. Thus, their Definition is based on the Measure step, which of course, dooms the entire cycle. The intentional ignoring of the as-is process shows they are either 1) not serious or 2) clueless in understanding a business process. At that point, everything else will fail.
Disclaimer, my Six Sigma knowledge is very limited though I have had some experience working on Business Processes but am not officially trained with all of the current buzzwords.
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See, I suspect they are not even bothering with process or following a proper workflow/cycle. A lot of the stuff I see popping up reminds me of student projects where they just start with as much data as they can obtain or mutate, fabricate a target set, and pump it all through some black box and then speak confidently about the results.
Now, where this is on topic.. I think this is a community that has really refined this process over the last two decades, and even teaches it at this point, and there is kinda a glut now, so there is a generation of consultants trying to find new niches where this can be applied, and the RWNJ data grinder is a pretty fertile field with lots of audience & money but not as much competition.
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Which I think is a bit of an industry wide problem right now, not just a RWNJ thing. Any place where personal brand is more important than verifiable results, you get this basic pattern. One of the issues is that a lot of the results are unexplainable and there is no process for validating them (since the conclusion contaminates the data), having people believe you were right or wrong becomes more an factor of confidence/brand/charisma/charts than anything else.
Things like process and Sigma Six only really come in when you want verification and something that can be analyzed, which is the exact opposite of what keeps this community alive ^_^. Unfortunately, this mindset has found its way into industries that thrive on this ambiguity, which is why you see so much of these systems in things like advertising, search, suggestion systems, media scheduling, and dating sites... all places that you can take credit for success and shift blame for failure in some kind of 'it would have been worse if we did not do XYZ' without any worry about formalied methods and processes contradicting you.
Things like process and Sigma Six only really come in when you want verification and something that can be analyzed, which is the exact opposite of what keeps this community alive ^_^. Unfortunately, this mindset has found its way into industries that thrive on this ambiguity, which is why you see so much of these systems in things like advertising, search, suggestion systems, media scheduling, and dating sites... all places that you can take credit for success and shift blame for failure in some kind of 'it would have been worse if we did not do XYZ' without any worry about formalied methods and processes contradicting you.
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Just what we need. Guess who is visiting the AZ AG's office today?
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That's Ron Watkins, the son in the Father-son partnership that probably ran the Q-anon account.
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Streaming live tomorrow morning 10am EST, 7am AZ.
https://oversight.house.gov/legislation ... -democracyAssessing the Election ‘Audit’ in Arizona and Threats to American Democracy
Meeting Notes: This hearing will convene in room 2154 of the Rayburn House Office Building and over Zoom, which has been approved by the House.
Date: Thursday, October 7, 2021 - 10:00am
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On Thursday, October 7, 2021, at 10:00 a.m. ET, The Committee on Oversight and Reform will hold a hearing to assess the election “audit” in Maricopa County, Arizona, conducted by Cyber Ninjas, Inc., and how this and similar audits undermine public confidence in elections and threaten our democracy.
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WITNESSES
Jack Sellers
Chairman, Board of Supervisors, Maricopa County, Arizona
Bill Gates
Vice Chairman, Board of Supervisors, Maricopa County, Arizona
David Becker
Executive Director and Founder, The Center for Election Innovation and Research
Gowri Ramachandran
Senior Counsel, The Brennan Center
Doug Logan (Invited)
Chief Executive Officer and Principal Consultant, Cyber Ninjas, Inc.
Mr. Ken Bennett (Minority Witness)
Former Secretary of State for the State of Arizona
Arizona State Senate Liaison to Cyber Ninjas Audit
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raison de arizona wrote: ↑Wed Oct 06, 2021 6:02 pm Streaming live tomorrow morning 10am EST, 7am AZ.https://oversight.house.gov/legislation ... -democracyAssessing the Election ‘Audit’ in Arizona and Threats to American Democracy
Meeting Notes: This hearing will convene in room 2154 of the Rayburn House Office Building and over Zoom, which has been approved by the House.
Date: Thursday, October 7, 2021 - 10:00am
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On Thursday, October 7, 2021, at 10:00 a.m. ET, The Committee on Oversight and Reform will hold a hearing to assess the election “audit” in Maricopa County, Arizona, conducted by Cyber Ninjas, Inc., and how this and similar audits undermine public confidence in elections and threaten our democracy.
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WITNESSES
Jack Sellers
Chairman, Board of Supervisors, Maricopa County, Arizona
Bill Gates
Vice Chairman, Board of Supervisors, Maricopa County, Arizona
David Becker
Executive Director and Founder, The Center for Election Innovation and Research
Gowri Ramachandran
Senior Counsel, The Brennan Center
Doug Logan (Invited)
Chief Executive Officer and Principal Consultant, Cyber Ninjas, Inc.
Mr. Ken Bennett (Minority Witness)
Former Secretary of State for the State of Arizona
Arizona State Senate Liaison to Cyber Ninjas Audit
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Of course they won't. Subpoena!
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I'm surprised Bennett plans to show up!
Why is Logan listed as "invited" rather than "subpoenaed"?
ETA: Logan was threatened with subpoena.
Why is Logan listed as "invited" rather than "subpoenaed"?
ETA: Logan was threatened with subpoena.
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Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
Bennet is an interesting study.
i believe that he has training as a CPA,
1) i think he recognized many of the QA/QC issues and procedural flaws early on.
2) when he tried to point out those flaws, they not only ignored him, but tried to freeze him out. I think he found their dismissive attitude towards him to be highly offensive. That's why he went public at the time.
This is his pay back.
i believe that he has training as a CPA,
1) i think he recognized many of the QA/QC issues and procedural flaws early on.
2) when he tried to point out those flaws, they not only ignored him, but tried to freeze him out. I think he found their dismissive attitude towards him to be highly offensive. That's why he went public at the time.
This is his pay back.
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I'm wondering if we will get a "Battle of the hearings?"
I bet that after the audit is ripped to shreds in the congressional hearing, Fann will hold her own, fake hearing. I say fake, because it will only involve the people she wants to be involved in it...
I bet that after the audit is ripped to shreds in the congressional hearing, Fann will hold her own, fake hearing. I say fake, because it will only involve the people she wants to be involved in it...
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Doug's not going. Ken Bennett is there.
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Congress is probably BIG MAD at Doug Logan....so please watch our exclusive interview with the Cyber Ninjas CEO tomorrow at 9AM MT! https://bit.ly/3abS8Gc
OCTOBER 7, 2021
Arizona Election Officials Testify on 2020 Election Audit
Arizona election officials and others testify on the 2020 Cyber Ninjas audit before the House Oversight and Reform Committee.
Carolyn Maloney is leading the hearing is on C-SPAN now (10am EDT): https://www.c-span.org/video/?515200-1/ ... audit&live
Karen Fann's shows haven't even been hearings, nobody gets to ask questions, not even other electeds. And as you saw the from AZAudit Porn, they're turning on her.
Richter has a Twitter thread on ridiculous Dr. Shiva --
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TLC Ohio, [07.10.21 00:10]
[Forwarded from Joe Oltmann (Apollo)]
Congress is probably BIG MAD at Doug Logan....so please watch our exclusive interview with the Cyber Ninjas CEO tomorrow at 9AM MT! https://bit.ly/3abS8Gc
OCTOBER 7, 2021
Arizona Election Officials Testify on 2020 Election Audit
Arizona election officials and others testify on the 2020 Cyber Ninjas audit before the House Oversight and Reform Committee.
Carolyn Maloney is leading the hearing is on C-SPAN now (10am EDT): https://www.c-span.org/video/?515200-1/ ... audit&live
Karen Fann's shows haven't even been hearings, nobody gets to ask questions, not even other electeds. And as you saw the from AZAudit Porn, they're turning on her.
Richter has a Twitter thread on ridiculous Dr. Shiva --
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I can't stand to hear Gozar speak. He's such a freakin asshat.
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There is no Gozar, only Zuul.
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So I'm not hearing that anything meaningful came out of the hearing.
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I've been busy today and only managed to catch a few lowlights from Biggs and Gosar. Here is the whole thing though:
Here's Bennett and Biggs palling around at the audit:
A clip from Doug Logan's interview he missed testifying before Congress for explaining how he got involved:
Joe Oltmann admits to leaking the draft report:
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Re: #AZAudit Maricopa Arizona Election Audit - #CyberNinjas / Jovan Hutton Pulitzer / Karen Fann / Birther Ken Bennett
That's an interesting thread.
Who won the election?
WE DON'T KNOOOOOOWWWWWW!
(I guess that's better than saying trump won. They spent millions on this fraudit and yet can't bring themselves to say either way.)
Who won the election?
WE DON'T KNOOOOOOWWWWWW!
(I guess that's better than saying trump won. They spent millions on this fraudit and yet can't bring themselves to say either way.)
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