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PostPosted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 8:49 pm 
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WOW!! This is the bestest day ever. I just got home and checked three things on line.

1) The Dow is up 136.16 today.

2) Nate Silver has Obama at 300.4 ECV, 79%.

3) I quickly read about Oily's terrible, horrible, no good, very bad day.

:-bd :-bd :-bd

Will continue reading about this later. It's almost 9:00 and I want to watch Rachel.

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Judge "tells Taitz that he is awarding sanctions not as a punishment but for cost shifting, to shift Oxy's costs to her. Orders $4,000 to be paid personally by Taitz to Oxy, to Mr. Ritt's client trust account."

Does that mean that Orly is exempt from the State Bar requirement that all sanctions over $1,000 be reported within 30 days? Or is a rose by any other name still a rose?

Inhale deeply: rose is a rose is a rose is a rose.

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Now that the really good stuff is in, how about a fashion and hair report? :lol:

Edit: ETA: Oh yeah, and is Pambly still 55 and black?


Seriously, thanks much to Reliable Source (as well as Good Authority) for the time, trouble, and excellent reporting!

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Thank You!

That report was fabulous in every way possible. :-bd

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:lol: THE BITCH IS BACK! :twisted:

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Donald Trump, I have an answer for you, admission against interest from the general counsel of the Occidental college: ‘courts don’t like to rule on things that don’t exist”.

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Today Trump stated that it is a sad day for America, total lack of transparency. Here is what happened today at the hearing. My understanding is that Obama’s Occidental application and registration records were destroyed in the same modus operandi, as his mother’s passport records prior to 1965 were destroyed, as his alleged application for Selective Service was destroyed, as immigration records from August 1961 disappeared from national archives and presumed to be destroyed. 2 attorneys appeared today for Occidental college: General counsel Karl Botterud and trial counsel that they hired, Jay Rudd. Prior to the hearing I asked them “If judge Marginis rules in my favor, if he rules to compel the production of records, do you have Obama’s records with you? They said that they do not have them. Then I asked “Do those records exist, are there any records in the college?” They said “We cannot say, we are not allowed to say”. One of my supporters sat nearby and heard everything. As I sat at my spot across the isle, Botterud told Rudd “Courts don’t like to rule on things that do not exist”. My understanding is that this record does not exist. When he said that the courts do not like to rule on things that do not exist, he clearly indicated that this record does not exist and the judges know about it.

During the hearing they claimed that they did not get enough time to comply with subpoena and they requested $4,000 in their fees.

I argued to the judge that this is an exigent matter of national security, that they refused to comply with subpoenas before, that we tried to get those records in Keyes v Bowen case. We have an election coming in 5 days.

I told the judge that the Education privacy act allows for release of some enrollment records and information, which are not offensive or personal. I am not asking for any personal information, just one word citizenship, which is important for the national election. I told the judge that all the evidence that we have shows that Obama is a citizen of Indonesia with forged IDs and a Social Security number, which was never assigned to him. I told the judge that he needs to way the natinal security and public interest over slight inconvenience of the two attorneys working for the Occidental college, who came to this hearing, and if they are already here and supposedly spent $4,000 for their time, why don’t they have any records. why are they fighting to keep hidden something that is the matter of public domain.
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According to Orly, she already sent a check to Oxy's counsel: "As of now I need your help to pay the $700 for the transcript, I just sent a reimbursement $460 for the hotel for a couple of witnesses, $500 for the air for Pamela and $4,000 for the crazy decision to protect the non-existant college records of the Kenyan usurper." :^o

I seriously doubt she already sent the check.

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Orly has posted her initial spin on what happened today in the OC. She decided to yell rather than screech, typing everything in caps.

She reports that the President's records at Occidental College must have been destroyed because the College's attorneys would not tell her whether the records existed. She expounds about all the great points that she made to the judge, who "did not give a damn about this country."

She also reports that Judge Reid in Indiana has vacated the "trial" and stricken the testimony of the "witnesses." However, clever Orly has that testimony on tape, so there, Judge Reid.

Orly should learn from today that American courts are simply not going to rule in her favor. The courts are all hung up on things called "laws" and other things called "rules." She needs to go, tonight, to The Hague and find the International Tribunal for the Protection of Decedent Civil Wrights Lawyers and get them to stop Tuesday's election until she completes all the Discovery that she has demanded or will demand. That's the only way out of what the U.S. has become, NAZI GERMANY.

And Donald Trump should pay her expenses, including that $4,000.

Go to the House of Malware well-armored if you must go there.

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:lol: THE BITCH IS BACK! :twisted:

:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=361097 :evil:

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As I sat at my spot across the isle, Botterud told Rudd “Courts don’t like to rule on things that do not exist”.


Well that's a whopper of a lie.

Reliable Source reports that Mr. Ritt is an excellent lawyer and said not a word to his client that could have possibly been heard by Orly Taitz.

Not. A. Word.

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I argued to the judge that this is an exigent matter of national security, that they refused to comply with subpoenas before, that we tried to get those records in Keyes v Bowen case. We have an election coming in 5 days.

And as the judge rightly pointed out to you, you've known that this election has been coming for four years. Keyes v. Bowen was, IIRC three years ago. Strangely it took you all that time to find a West Virginian convict serving time in Texas with "perfect standing" to sue everybody who has ignored you, made fun of you or do other things you don't like and then "remove" your case to Federal Court and then uh, birfercate it and ask for a "default."

This entire "process" has been an argument for a $4 000 000 sanction not a $4 000 one.

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neonzx wrote:
:lol: THE BITCH IS BACK! :twisted:

:evil: http://www.orlytaitzesq.com/?p=361097 :evil:

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As I sat at my spot across the isle, Botterud told Rudd “Courts don’t like to rule on things that do not exist”.


Well that's a whopper of a lie.

Reliable Source reports that Mr. Ritt is an excellent lawyer and said not a word to his client that could have possibly been heard by Orly Taitz.

Not. A. Word.

Not to quibble, but Thai Eats didn't say she heard Mr. Ritt say anything. She said
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One of my supporters sat nearby and heard everything. As I sat at my spot across the isle, Botterud told Rudd “Courts don’t like to rule on things that do not exist”.

I'm sure it's still a whopper of a lie.

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I couldn't have said it better! And to Reliable Source and to riacha... :hug: :hug: :-* :-* :xo

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Not to quibble, but Thai Eats didn't say she heard Mr. Ritt say anything. She said
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One of my supporters sat nearby and heard everything. As I sat at my spot across the isle, Botterud told Rudd “Courts don’t like to rule on things that do not exist”.

I'm sure it's still a whopper of a lie.


Quibble away. The "supporters" were even further away from Mr. Ritt than Taitz was. But then, Mr. Ritt never said anything of the sort anyway.

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The "supporters" were even further away from Mr. Ritt than Taitz was. But then, Mr. Ritt never said anything of the sort anyway.

Just as I figured, raicha.

Thanks again to our Reliable Source for great BOTG reporting!

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Judge "tells Taitz that he is awarding sanctions not as a punishment but for cost shifting, to shift Oxy's costs to her. Orders $4,000 to be paid personally by Taitz to Oxy, to Mr. Ritt's client trust account."

Does that mean that Orly is exempt from the State Bar requirement that all sanctions over $1,000 be reported within 30 days? Or is a rose by any other name still a rose?

Inhale deeply: rose is a rose is a rose is a rose.


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Not to quibble, but Thai Eats didn't say she heard Mr. Ritt say anything. She said
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One of my supporters sat nearby and heard everything. As I sat at my spot across the isle, Botterud told Rudd “Courts don’t like to rule on things that do not exist”.

I'm sure it's still a whopper of a lie.


Quibble away. The "supporters" were even further away from Mr. Ritt than Taitz was. But then, Mr. Ritt never said anything of the sort anyway.


Thank you, Raicha, for such an informative report. You provided a great ending to an already good day. *lifting wine glass in toast to you* =D>

Damn that Orly, she'll lie about anything and everything, including what opposing counsel allegedly said. She's trying to get Trump to pay her fines, I hope he
continues to ignore her sorry ass. And to you, Orly, since I know you read here, go back to wherever you came from because as a natural born U.S. citizen, I
think your ignorant complaints about us being similar to Nazi Germany means you never appreciated the citizenship our country allegedly awarded you. GTFO!

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Thank you, Raicha, for such an informative report. You provided a great ending to an already good day. *lifting wine glass in toast to you* =D>


I'll drink to that! Thanks again Raicha!

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According to Orly, she already sent a check to Oxy's counsel: "As of now I need your help to pay the $700 for the transcript, I just sent a reimbursement $460 for the hotel for a couple of witnesses, $500 for the air for Pamela and $4,000 for the crazy decision to protect the non-existant college records of the Kenyan usurper." :^o

I seriously doubt she already sent the check.


Maybe. Maybe not.

Assuming for a moment that Yosi tolerates his wife's avocation from arm's length, the only time he might get involved and get seriously pissed off is when something like a lien shows up on their house. $4K isn't really a big amount to O'rly, and paying this amount right away might be worth it to keep it off of Yosi's radar.

Just speculation, of course :-k


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Occidental College was represented by Carl Boterrud and D. Jay Ritt.

Who are these guys?

Mr. Boterrud is General Counsel for Occidental College. He has been barraged with birther crap for 4 years. Before he became G.C. for Oxy, he was Mr. Ritt's law partner for many years.

Mr. Ritt?
I have it on Good Authority he's been the next door neighbor of Scott J. Tepper for 10 years.


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IANAL, but since it wasn't asked for, I'd seriously doubt it.

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Thanks again to Reliable Source and raicha. :-bd

And now for your further reading pleasure...

2012-11-1 - TvO - Memorandum of Points and Authorities in Support of Opposition...

2012-11-1 - TvO - Opposition - Declaration of Carl Botterud

2012-11-1 - TvO - Opposition - Declaration of D. Jay Ritt

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Ahhhhh!! Fogbow has turned into a litter of happy puppies!!

And keyboards purring with delight, joy o joy.

Frabjous bootsologue, molto excelentisimo und supervunderbar. (Mutter, mutter, fashion report, mutter, mutter.)

:-* Big Thanks To Reliable Source and Raicha!! :-*

:thunb: It's good to see Occidental College getting the sanctions money - I think it's important that Taitz's victims should not have to suffer financially. :thunb:

The flash of long anticipated cold steel :knitting: on the defendants's side is now being matched by the rustle of thousand dollar bills on the harasser's side ?(, hurrah!
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Let's hope that a word over neighbouring fences get this result judicially noticed in Mississippi.

Sorry to be a wet blanket, but a four-figure discovery sanction in a California state court isn't something Judge Wingate would care about in a million years.

I respectfully dissent.

If you wanted to demonstrate that Taitz is vexatious and unnecessarily multiplies proceedings, Exhibit A would be Keyes v. Bowen, and Exhibit B would be doing the exact same thing in this case.

Yeahbut ...

Taitz wasn't sanctioned for bringing this stoopid proceeding, she was sanctioned a few grand for a losing a motion to compel. That's something that could happen to anyone. It hasn't, in fact, happened to me or my partners, and in part that's because we try to be, you know, careful about a lot of things, but in part it's simply luck.

I don't know where you practice, and we try to stay in federal court when we can, but in court rooms like the ex parte part for NY County Supreme, let alone places like Queens County Supreme (shudder) or Kings County Civil (double shudder), the science of judging is practiced in a way that's not always, as who should say, fully rational. Also, Ms. Taitz is not the only lawyer in the country whose conduct brings tears to the eyes of the good angels of honesty and ethical behavior. Some of these lawyers work for large, well established firms. If you're not prepared to accept the risk that a stoopid and pissed off judge will award fees against you in a discovery dispute, there will be lots of situations in which you can't protect your client's interests.

But, you will say, "this isn't the kind of discovery pratfall that 'could happen to anyone.' Careful consideration of the full record of the motion to compel should be enough, by itself, to persuade a rational person that Taitz is barking, and the sooner she's disbarred and vexlit'd, the better for the public good". I don't disagree. But I don't think that's it's possible to write a one sentence parenthetical that would persuade Judge Wingate that this sanction order is important, in light of all the other evidence before him. And a $4,000.00 sanction isn't enough to justify a paragraph. $50,000, maybe. Or if there were a dozen or more similar sanction orders. But not one.

Let's put it this way. You've got 25 pages to persuade the court to make a substantial sanctions award. If you devote a fat paragraph to this incident, you'll have to leave out some better arguments and evidence. IMO.

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Thanks again to Reliable Source and raicha. :-bd

And now for your further reading pleasure...

2012-11-1 - TvO - Memorandum of Points and Authorities in Support of Opposition...

2012-11-1 - TvO - Opposition - Declaration of Carl Botterud

2012-11-1 - TvO - Opposition - Declaration of D. Jay Ritt


Now that's reliable! And so is Jack Ryan!

Thanks, Jack, Raicha & RS!

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