Mike Lindell's Election Shenanigans, FrankSpeech and #MyPillow #FAILS - 6/28/61 Cancer / Ox

notorial dissent · #477

Maybe, considering the lawsuit losses they have had the last few years that some someone in legal finally got it through to Rupey and the boys that some of this stupid could really cost them some serious money.

tek · #478

I don't know if there is anybody with any sway in Legal at MyPillow.

If there was, the coupling of Mikey's Fever dreams and MyPillow would have been shut down long ago.

#479

SlimSloSlider · #480

noblepa wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 8:59 pm Even if you were able to decipher those pcaps and found that there were incoming packets that originated in China or some other unfriendly country, it proves nothing.

I recently retired from a local county goverment IT department in Ohio. I was talking with one of our network guys one day and he told me that our firewalls rejected 2/3 of all the incoming packets as potential security violations. The hackers bombard websites all over the world, trying to gain unauthorized entry.

If those pcaps were captured by tapping the internet feed outside Maricopa County's firewalls and edge routers, I would expect there to be many, many, many unsolicited packets coming from all over the world. Such unsolicited traffic is only a problem if it actually penetrates the outer firewalls and edge routers and makes it to the servers and other devices on MC's internal network.

Lindell's "experts" don't need to decrypt the packet payloads. The source/destination IP addresses can't be encrypted. Otherwise, the internet routers would not be able to direct the traffic where it needs to go. So, the packet headers are in the clear, and the payload may or may not be encrypted.

For Lindell's purposes (and he probably believes this) it would be enough to find that there were 42 bazillion packets that came from China. He would be shouting from the rooftops that he had found "absolute proof" of foreign tampering in he election. As I said, without proof that those packets penetrated Maricopa's network security, or knowing what those packets contained, such claims, while possibly true, are meaningless.

BTW, wouldn't such wiretapping be illegal? There are several Federal-level cybersecurity laws that outlaw hacking. For this reason, the source of these pcaps becomes important.

This is Maricopa’s network map:

https://recorder.maricopa.gov/justthefa ... m%20V2.pdf

#481

I see no routers on that network, just a couple air gapped HP switches. Those must be some magic packets to jump the air gap.

SlimSloSlider · #482

raison de arizona wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:09 pm I see no routers on that network, just a couple air gapped HP switches. Those must be some magic packets to jump the air gap.

Which is why Lindell, Karen Fann, Cyber Ninjas et al. are more full of it than a septic tank.

#483

People are saying the word is that Estiveo's going to buy thousands of pillows, sheets and dog beds to help Mike out.

Mike Lindell Says He's Losing $1M a Week Because Fox News Refused to Air Voter Fraud Ad
BY DANIEL VILLARREAL ON 8/2/21 AT 6:30 PM EDT

MyPillow CEO Mike Lindell has said that is losing "about a million dollars a week" since he pulled his ads from the Fox News network. "They're disgusting, what they've done to our country," Lindell said of the network while speaking on War Room, a show on Real America's Voice, a right-leaning media network. The host is hosted by Steve Bannon, former White House Chief Strategist under Republican President Donald Trump. "I mean, it's terrible," Lindell continued. "I can't make this up. This is about a million dollars a week MyPillow is going to lose again... I want nothing to do with them if they're going to ruin our country and decide on events you have. 'Oh, I don't want it. You can't advertise that concert because we don't like who's playing.'"

Lindell was referring to his recent decision to pull his company's ads from the network after the network refused to air an advertisement for his upcoming "cyber-symposium." Lindell's symposium is supposed to occur this month in Sioux Falls, South Dakota. It will reveal, he claims, new evidence that voting machine fraud, orchestrated by China, stole the 2020 election from Trump. This evidence, Lindell said, will convince the Supreme Court to vote unanimously to reinstate Trump into office by autumn. Fox News rejected Lindell's symposium ad near the end of July. Lindell said the ad wouldn't directly mention voting fraud. Fox News may have rejected the ad since the network is facing its own $2.7 billion defamation lawsuit by the voting machine company Smartmatic. Smartmatic accused the network of airing false and defamatory claims that the company had helped "steal" the 2020 election.

Before pulling his ads from Fox News, MyPillow was one of the network's biggest sponsors. Lindell spent $19 million in 2021 and $50 million in 2020 to advertise on the channel, he told The Wall Street Journal. "It's unfortunate Mr. Lindell has chosen to pause his commercial time on Fox News given the level of success he's experienced in building his brand through advertising on the number one cable news network," Fox News said in a statement to Newsweek. Lindell has previously claimed that Fox News helped Democrats steal the election because, on Election Night, the network called the state of Arizona early in favor of now-President Joe Biden. Lindell is also facing his own $1.3 billion defamation lawsuit from Dominion Voting Systems over his past claims that the company helped steal the election. Lindell countersued the company for $1.6 billion, claiming that their lawsuit violated his Constitutional rights to free speech.
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Trump has also claimed that election fraud only occurred in the states that he lost. As such, Trump's claim contradicts another claim in Lindell's speech. Lindell said that voter fraud occurred in Tampa, even though Trump won Florida in the 2020 election. On January 20, Lindell announced that a number of leading U.S. retailers stopped selling MyPillow products. He suggested the reason was because of his support for Trump. However, two of the retailers he named, Bed Bath & Beyond and Kohl's, said poor sales were the reason for discontinuing the product offerings and not Lindell's politics. Newsweek contacted Fox News for comment.

https://www.newsweek.com/mike-lindell-s ... ad-1615492

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#484

orlylicious wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:38 pm People are saying the word is that Estiveo's going to buy thousands of pillows, sheets and dog beds to help Mike out.

Well, I was, until I finally discovered what the Porn-stached Pillow Pusher actually uses to stuff his products. There are some things up with which I will not put.

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#485

Mike Lindell says his Sioux Falls Cyber Symposium will prove election fraud; experts have doubts
By Beth Warden Published: Jul. 22, 2021 at 11:45 PM EDT

SIOUX FALLS, S.D. (Dakota News Now) - You may know him as the My Pillow guy. Minnesota resident Mike Lindell was in Mitchell this past May to announce the launch of his new social media platform, Frank. Now he’s coming back to South Dakota, saying his next visit will be marked in history. Lindell says he was given an electronic version of every vote cast in the November Presidential election. He plans to show it all at a Cyber Symposium on August 10th, 11th, and 12th in Sioux Falls. The event’s main focus is based on the claim that the Presidential election was hacked by a foreign country. “It’s been crooked it’s the biggest crime ever,” said Lindell. “It was massive. It was across every state. And believe me, it’s big here in Sioux Falls.” At the South Dakota Military Alliance venue, the event is by invitation only for Cyber experts, Politicians, and the media. “I want these cyber forensic experts all here,” said Lindell. “And because you and I can’t read the stuff that comes in these packet captures, they need to understand it and they do understand it, so they’re going to validate it just like I had cyber experts validate all this, okay?” The event is only available to the public through a live stream. “And I do believe that will be one of the most-watched events in history,” said Lindell. “We’re going to run on one screen. The whole election... constant, you know, because it’s a stream of information.” Lindell claims to have the entirety of the Presidential election results in the form of packet captures.

Brian Linder is an emerging threats expert with Check Point Media, listed among the top ten of cybersecurity companies in the world according to the University of San Diego. “A packet capture is basically eavesdropping on a computer network, it’s nothing more than that,” said Linder. “The ability to say, what conversations are happening between a device and another device on a network. What they’re going to do with it? Not too much, It’s encrypted. It can’t be trivially decrypted.” A sample of the packet capture was released by Lindell. “Experts looked at the so-called packet captures that he had. And in fact, it was not an encrypted packet capture at all,” said Linder. “As a matter of fact, it was an unencrypted stream of meaningless data that mentioned clothing manufacturers it had nothing to do with voting. So he claims to have a raw packet capture that’s encrypted. He doesn’t have that that’s absolutely a false claim based on the data he provided. Completely false.”

The Cyber Symposium is also spearheaded by Phil Waldron, a retired Colonel with the U.S. Army. “The electronic voting systems that we have, we don’t have free, fair, and transparent elections until we get back to a very fundamental solution: counterfeit-proof paper ballots,” said Waldron. Minnehaha County Auditor Ben Kyte describes how votes are cast. “South Dakota we have all paper ballots, right. That’s probably one of the ensuring that factors is that it’s secure,” said Kyte. Across the nation, only five states have electronic voting systems, according to Ballotpedia. They include Arkansas, Deleware, Georgia, Louisiana, and South Carolina. A total of 45 states, including South Dakota, use paper ballots, offering electronics only for those with disabilities as an accessibility accommodation.

Lindell discusses one of the ways he believes an election can be hacked. “Everybody knows that the machines are online, they are hackable, it’s like duh,” said Lindell. “I mean that’s that’s a no-brainer.” That’s not the case according to South Dakota Secretary of State Steve Barnett. “There’s no online voting, or none of our machines are connected to the Internet. None of the tabulators are,” said Barnett. In eleven other states, the company Election Systems and Software confirmed they sold tabulation machines equipped with wireless modems, which could be a security risk. In South Dakota, ballots are counted at the polling station. They’re sealed for delivery and counted again upon delivery. “And then we start the process of tabulating the results,” said Kyte. The port of the tabulation machine is locked until the results are transported onto a flash drive. “We know what those results are. Our IT staff would then transmit those results to the Secretary of State’s office in Pierre,” said Kyte. County Auditors make sure the votes they’ve reported match the votes at the Secretary of State’s Office. The entire process is monitored under the watch of a bi-partisan election board. “So there’s an equal number of Republicans and Democrats that are here that review those,” said Kyte. “The whole, the whole process is protected.”

Could an entire election be captured electronically? “To intercept and packet capture all of an election, I think the way the New York Times described it, technically incoherent,” said Linder. “I cannot imagine a scenario where it could be pulled off at all.” As for any cybersecurity experts attending the event, Linder has heard from his peers. “No credible cybersecurity expert is going to attend this session. There is a huge and very, very, very curious community who invests their lives in knowing this, would ever attend a session like this. Lindell says that he’s talked with Governor Kristi Noem about the Cyber Symposium and has her full support. We reached out to the Governor’s Office on July 7th, asking if Noem will attend, and have not received a response. After the final day of the symposium, Lindell plans to take the results of his disclosure directly to the U.S. Supreme Court for review. According to a legal adviser: “Lawyers file petitions to the U.S. Supreme Court all the time for a variety of reasons, but very few ever get granted, and there are exceptionally few that can originate in the United States Supreme Court.”

https://www.dakotanewsnow.com/2021/07/2 ... ve-doubts/

#486

WHY is China so terrified of the cyber-symposium?

#487

What ads are going to run on Tucker's show now? It was like literally like 1/2 MyPillow ads on that crap.

(well the ones that weren't Fox)

https://tvrev.com/whos-still-advertisin ... f-q2-2021/

#488

How could Lindell be losing $1 million a week already? He just announced at the end of last week that he is pulling the ads. it has not been one week since he said he is pulling (not had pulled weeks ago).

There there is the issue that he spent $50 Million on Fox ads last year. That would mean that, if he gets 1M a week from that, he only cleared 2 million in revenue for a 50 million investment.

Patagoniagirl · #489

northland10 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 11:30 pm How could Lindell be losing $1 million a week already? He just announced at the end of last week that he is pulling the ads. it has not been one week since he said he is pulling (not had pulled weeks ago).

There there is the issue that he spent $50 Million on Fox ads last year. That would mean that, if he gets 1M a week from that, he only cleared 2 million in revenue for a 50 million investment.

And yet Britney Spears is under a conservatorship.

tek · #490

when I clicked on the teevee sometime shortly after 5am this morning, it was still tuned to MSNBC from the day before.

I was greeted with Mike Lindell's smiling face offering me a special promo code for some MyPillow somethingorother.

so he's still advertising

notorial dissent · #491

tek wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:56 pm I don't know if there is anybody with any sway in Legal at MyPillow.

If there was, the coupling of Mikey's Fever dreams and MyPillow would have been shut down long ago.

Since MyPillow isn't a public company, there really isn't anyone/thing to slap him down, and I really doubt he listens to anyone but the voices in his head.

noblepa · #492

notorial dissent wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:47 am
tek wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:56 pm I don't know if there is anybody with any sway in Legal at MyPillow.

If there was, the coupling of Mikey's Fever dreams and MyPillow would have been shut down long ago.
Since MyPillow isn't a public company, there really isn't anyone/thing to slap him down, and I really doubt he listens to anyone but the voices in his head.

The difference between Fox News and MyPillow (at least in this regard) is that the owner of Fox (Rupert Murdoch) isn't the guy spewing the nonsense and lies. If Murdoch decides that the nonsense is costing him money, the nonsense will stop.

In the case of MyPillow, it is the owner of the company spreading the lies. He is not going to let someone in legal or accounting tell him to stop. They may tell him that it is costing him money, but he doesn't care.

#493

notorial dissent wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:47 am
tek wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 4:56 pm I don't know if there is anybody with any sway in Legal at MyPillow.

If there was, the coupling of Mikey's Fever dreams and MyPillow would have been shut down long ago.
Since MyPillow isn't a public company, there really isn't anyone/thing to slap him down, and I really doubt he listens to anyone but the voices in his head.

Or in other words, the Legal department at MyPillow, consisting of Mike Lindell, M. Lindell, and Michael J. Lindell ESQ*, fully approved of the actions of President, CEO and Board Chair Mike Lindell.

*Extra Speshul Quantificated

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Gregg · #495

Before this is all over, the Court Appointed Receiver of My Pillow, inc, is gonna tell him to shut up or at least start issuing statements to the effect of "We don't have anything to do with that crazy phuck, he's just the guy who used to get coffee and we fired him" as they try to salvage some value for the creditors.

#496

Good questions.

#497

There would have had to be actual hacking for that to be an issue. I am betting there is no hacking to prosecute. Now, if he finds out he's scammed, would he take the scammer to court? Would that be admitting that he paid somebody for committing a crime (even if after the fact)?

#498

Wait a gosh darn minute! Foggy has been holding out on us!

While distracting us with a Seattle trip, look who is going to Sioux Falls, SD on August 9th and returning on August 13th! Mr. Foggy Fogbow's Secure Flight Information is even on file. So while poor Lauren Witzke is stranded, Foggy just sails through the friendly skies in FIRST CLASS.

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Nice try Foggy. We'd better get a full boots on the ground report from Mike Lindell's Cyber Symposium! OR are you secretly working with Mary Fanning and Dennis Montgomery and you're going to be a PRESENTER? This is shattering.

bob · #499

northland10 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 05, 2021 2:23 pm There would have had to be actual hacking for that to be an issue. I am betting there is no hacking to prosecute.

Especially when all indicators are pointing toward noted chuffer-grifter Dennis Montgomery.

Chilidog · #500

You gotta admit. There is something to be admired in the way that Dennis Montgomery knows his marks and expertly reels them in.

I half expect to see Mike Lindell with a bass plug dangling from his lips.

Fogbow

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