Rolodex wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 1:03 pm
raison de arizona wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 12:55 pm
Suranis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2024 9:03 am
In any case "becoming less fertile" is not actually what happens in the real live examples of Gilead we have in this world, where in one case
Abortion is widely available up to 16 weeks.
It really is odd that you cling to fiction these days but hey, I cant Judge I suppose.
Tell that to one of the 30 million Texans. Or 22 million Floridians.
Or anyone in Alabama.
Curious that infant mortality went up in Texas after abortion became illegal. Better to let moms suffer and babies die painful deaths than to allow medically necessary abortions.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/24/health/s ... index.html
For the record, I was talking about Iran. You know, real life Theocracy like Gilead and FAMOUSLY respectful of women's rights (sarcasm). Which is why its great on Abortions.
I guess being even slightly subtle is lost on some people. Yes, Iran allows Abortion up to 16 weeks. Iran is like Gilead. Therefore, making Abortion freely available makes a country the same as Gilead. Iran oes not respect women, therefore abortion is not the same as respecting Women.
In short, by all your screaming, you must be concluding that women have more rights in Iran. I haven't looked at abortion rates in other theocracies but I imagine its similar. So, ya, if you were thinking logically and following through with your arguments, hardcore Muslim countries LOOOOVE Women.
That's the problem with basing your rhetoric around fictional countries like Gilead as though it proves something. People start looking at REAL countries and seeing how the fictional rules you insist on don't actually apply in reality. But fiction is so neat and tidy and quotable!
Anyhoo, moving on, I had a look at that CNN article but buried in the second to last paragraph and bits of the other paragraphs are suggestions that something else is going on.
The new JAMA Pediatrics study found that, between 2021 and 2022, infant deaths in Texas surged 12.9%, compared with a much smaller increase in the rest of the US of 1.8%. I
t also found a significant jump in the rate of infant mortality in Texas – or the number of deaths per thousand live births – relative to the rest of the country, suggesting that the increase in the number of infant deaths was not solely the byproduct of a rise in births. In that same time period, infant mortality rates rose 8.3% in Texas, compared with an increase of 2.2% in the rest of the nation.
The neonatal mortality rate – or the death rates of babies younger than 28 days –
also increased in Texas by 5.8% but decreased in the rest of the US, the study found.
The study also found that the number of congenital anomalies increased in Texas from 2021 to 2022 but not in the rest of the US.
Firstly it depends on how you define "infant deaths" which is mentioned nowhere else in the article.
Secondly, this, which appears halfway down the article in a way which suggests they want it to be buried, suggests that the real reason could very well be some kind of environmental factor that was killing children such as pollutions, and not boo hiss abortion bans.
And thirdly, And this should be obvious: If the Neonatal Mortality rate went down across the whole country other than Texas when Abortion was banned across the country, that would logically mean that abortion was bad for neonatal mortality, right? And that Texas was an exception for some reason other than Abortion bans.
But the CNN writers don't even look at the implications of those paragraphs. They frame them around doctors lamenting the abortion bans as though that was the only factor, which means they were trying to make people not think about the implications. But even the doctors were saying the results need more study to fins definitive prove about what the results show.
So, ya, your link does not prove what you say it does when you read it. Funny how often that happens when people just throw links they found on some Pro-abortion site without actually reading the article. And I am really, REALLY sick of people doing that becasue it happens all the fucking time. Read your links, people
*sigh*
So, ya your logic fails on one end, and your link does not actually prove what you and CNN want it to prove.
And I normally step away from these things after one session because all that happens is that I get everyone yelling things I didn't say, a volley of insults, and people making it obvious they don't even read what I said. I just clicked on this because I had forgotten that this was another one where the Possy would have been sent out with a rope and a noose.
There's no point in discussing when people don't want to have a discussion. All you want is to have a good lynching. So lynch away, my friends.
The new indictment is all a distraction from Hunter.
x5
turned around. I couldn't turn on tv before the primary last week without seeing a commercial for Republican governor being endorsed by Trump. All different candy dates. He endorsed them all!
