7/21: Biden "Stands Down". Should (Will?) President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials
Should President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials
And there's not another Democrat who polls ahead of Trump - except Biden. People yakking about him dropping out needs to take a breath before panicking 10 seconds after the debate was over.
Still waiting for the ink and bytes spilled by the bucket load for all the lies and stupidity and lack of answers from the flaming cheeto. THAT should be the headline, not that an old guy acts like an old guy.
Can't find it now, but saw a picture earlier from right after the debate: Jill is greeting Joe at the podium; Dolt 45 is walking off the stage by himself.
Still waiting for the ink and bytes spilled by the bucket load for all the lies and stupidity and lack of answers from the flaming cheeto. THAT should be the headline, not that an old guy acts like an old guy.
Can't find it now, but saw a picture earlier from right after the debate: Jill is greeting Joe at the podium; Dolt 45 is walking off the stage by himself.
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A lyric just for tfg:
… Who am I, what and why
'Cause all I have left is my memories of yesterday
Oh these sour times
'Cause nobody loves me, it's true
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Should President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials
READ THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE DEBATE. Yes, the optics were bad for Biden, but read what the answers were for both. It will (or certainly should) give you a different perspective.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/27/politics ... index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/27/politics ... index.html
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Surprisingly enough, to the media at least, people are sticking with the guy that forgets the porch light.
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New ad campaign:
tfg: he'll sell your furniture and kill your dog.
New ad campaign:
tfg: he'll sell your furniture and kill your dog.
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Bill Madden @maddenifico wrote: Priest puts @nytimes on blast -- and accurately equates Trump and MAGA-fascism with the mustache man and Nazi movement of 1930s Germany.
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To serve his country, Donald Trump should leave the race | Editorial
Biden had a horrible night Thursday. But the debate about the debate is misplaced. The only person who should withdraw from the race is Trump.
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/editor ... 40629.html
Biden had a horrible night Thursday. But the debate about the debate is misplaced. The only person who should withdraw from the race is Trump.
https://www.inquirer.com/opinion/editor ... 40629.html
But lost in the hand wringing was Donald Trump’s usual bombastic litany of lies, hyperbole, bigotry, ignorance, and fear mongering. His performance demonstrated once again that he is a danger to democracy and unfit for office.
In fact, the debate about the debate is misplaced. The only person who should withdraw from the race is Trump.
Trump, 78, has been on the political stage for eight years marked by chaos, corruption, and incivility. Why go back to that?
To build himself up, Trump constantly tears the country down. There is no shining city on the hill. It’s just mourning in America.
Throughout the debate, Trump repeatedly said we are a “failing” country. He called the United States a “third world nation.” He said, “we’re living in hell” and “very close to World War III.”
“People are dying all over the place,” Trump said, later adding “we’re literally an uncivilized country now.”
Trump told more than 30 lies during the debate to go with the more than 30,000 mistruths told during his four years as president. He dodged the CNN moderators’ questions, took no responsibility for his actions, and blamed others, mainly Biden, for everything that is wrong in the world.
Trump’s response to the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection he fueled was farcical. He said a “relatively small number of people” went to the Capitol and many were “ushered in by the police.”
After scheming to overturn the 2020 election, Trump refused to say if he would accept the results of the 2024 election. Unless, of course, he wins.
The debate served as a reminder of what another four years of Trump would look like. More lies, grievance, narcissism, and hate. Supporters say they like Trump because he says whatever he thinks. But he mainly spews raw sewage.
Trump attacks the military. He denigrates the Justice Department and judges. He belittles the FBI and the CIA. He picks fights with allies and cozies up to dictators.
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Yes, Trump had more energy than Biden during the debate, but he’s not the better candidate
https://www.tennessean.com/story/opinio ... 255519007/
Trump Should Never Have Had This Platform
The debate was a travesty—because its whole premise was to treat a failed coup leader as a legitimate candidate for the presidency.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... -6/678818/
https://www.tennessean.com/story/opinio ... 255519007/
Trump Should Never Have Had This Platform
The debate was a travesty—because its whole premise was to treat a failed coup leader as a legitimate candidate for the presidency.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... -6/678818/
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No he isn't, this day with the family was planned well in advance of the debate and was PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED A WEEK BEFORE IT AS WELL. And you know that, you clickbaiting asshats.
https://twitter.com/NBCNewYork/status/1 ... 5747603604
https://twitter.com/NBCNewYork/status/1 ... 5747603604
NBC New York @NBCNewYork wrote: President Joe Biden is expected to discuss the future of his re-election campaign with family on Sunday at Camp David, NBC News is reporting
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Biden should have dropped out of the race the minute his foot went out of bounds during his floor routine.
Oh, my bad, it's the media who have the election and the Olympics confused.
Oh, my bad, it's the media who have the election and the Olympics confused.
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sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 10:31 pm Biden should have dropped out of the race the minute his foot went out of bounds during his floor routine.
Oh, my bad, it's the media who have the election and the Olympics confused.
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Especially the Fucking New York Times. Does anyone here still subscribe? In the comments to Robert Hubbell and Jay Kuo's columns. many people said they had canceled their subscriptions. I'm hoping to see in the coming days a report of the thousands of cancellations that the FNYT has received. I would have more respect for them if they just came out and openly endorsed Trump, using the reasoning that he will make more money for us.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 5:05 pm https://twitter.com/PalmerReport/status ... 0192061498Palmer Report @PalmerReport wrote: When the dust settles and we see that the debate didn't hurt Biden at all, will MSNBC and CNN and the New York Times all agree to drop out of journalism?
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I don't even read the free articles my stepsister sends me.
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I've forwarded this post to the wife unit and am actively encouraging her to cancel our subscription. I'm hoping that Monday morning they walk into a significant dent. Please.
Don Winslow @donwinslow wrote: Imagine if they walk into the New York Times Monday morning and someone says "Over the weekend, 250,000 people cancelled their subscriptions"
Imagine that. Almost 300,000 have already viewed the original tweet below.
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I was going to say that NBC can eat a dick, but I'm choosing instead to go with NBC can eat a bag of dicks. And choke on it.![Image](https://media1.tenor.com/m/MuZ3JTmIohAAAAAd/don%27t-call-it-a-comeback-i-been-here-for-years-ll-cool-j.gif)
* the latest number is $47M FWIW.Olivia Julianna 🗳 @0liviajulianna wrote: The Biden Camp David trip was announced on June 23rd. NBC News never reached out to the White House for comment.
Biden has raised $30 million* since the debate. Biden is the nominee. The base supports him. He’s been counted out before— so when he wins don’t call it a comeback.The Spectator Index @spectatorindex wrote: BREAKING: NBC News reports that President Biden is 'expected to discuss the future of his re-election campaign with family at Camp David' tomorrow
I was going to say that NBC can eat a dick, but I'm choosing instead to go with NBC can eat a bag of dicks. And choke on it.
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This guy has apparently predicted every contest correctly for decades. For whatever that is worth, but certainly some words of wisdom.
Angry Staffer 🌻 @Angry_Staffer wrote: Listen to this guy.
“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” —John Adams
Should President Joe Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race? Poll & Editorials
I've been trying to get my sister and bro-in-law to cancel their subscription for at least three years. No; they like the columnists. and The Wire. And the international coverage. They're big lefties; my worthy bro-in-law has been marching for liberal causes since the 1960s. But no. Not sure if it's principle, or if they don't believe me. Oh well.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Sat Jun 29, 2024 11:42 pm I've forwarded this post to the wife unit and am actively encouraging her to cancel our subscription. I'm hoping that Monday morning they walk into a significant dent. Please.
Don Winslow @donwinslow wrote: Imagine if they walk into the New York Times Monday morning and someone says "Over the weekend, 250,000 people cancelled their subscriptions"
Imagine that. Almost 300,000 have already viewed the original tweet below.
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Grrrreat point, Realist. I tweeted it:
https://x.com/Orly_licious/status/1807274230834147713
Included that tweet too also, RDA.
Have been done with NY Times since after the 2020 election. They've been awful this week. And Maureen Dowd takes a victory lap saying, "I knocked him out of that race" in 1987. Here's all that was in front of the firewall and it's more than fu*king enough. Last month she trumpeted how her RW sister is all in for Trump.
I officially voted NO in our poll. Fu*k you, Maureen and the other media putting profits before country.
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Terrific point by @jkryn: READ THE TRANSCRIPT OF THE DEBATE. Yes, optics were bad for Biden, but read both candidates' answers. It will (or should) give you a different perspective: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/06/27/poli ... index.html
Discussion at Fogbow: https://thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.p ... 23#p269349 Poll: 84% Don't drop out.
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Included that tweet too also, RDA.
Have been done with NY Times since after the 2020 election. They've been awful this week. And Maureen Dowd takes a victory lap saying, "I knocked him out of that race" in 1987. Here's all that was in front of the firewall and it's more than fu*king enough. Last month she trumpeted how her RW sister is all in for Trump.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/06/29/opin ... -exit.htmlThe Ghastly vs. the Ghostly
June 29, 2024
By Maureen Dowd
Opinion Columnist, reporting from Washington
He’s being selfish. He’s putting himself ahead of the country. He’s surrounded by opportunistic enablers. He has created a reality distortion field where we’re told not to believe what we’ve plainly seen. His hubris is infuriating. He says he’s doing this for us, but he’s really doing it for himself.
I’m not talking about Donald Trump. I’m talking about the other president.
In Washington, people often become what they start out scorning. This has happened to Joe Biden. In his misguided quest for a second term that would end when he’s 86, he has succumbed to behavior redolent of Trump. And he is jeopardizing the democracy he says he wants to save.
I got to know Biden in 1987 when he was running for president. He was hailed then as a leading orator of the Democratic Party, even though he could be windy. I knocked him out of that race when I wrote about how he cloaked himself in the life of Neil Kinnock, the British Labour leader who was a soaring speaker, and how he gave speeches that borrowed, probably unwittingly, from Robert F. Kennedy and Hubert Humphrey.
I ran into Biden in a Senate stairwell on his way to make a speech dropping out. He was alone, studying his script. We looked at each other in silence — struck by the weight of the moment — then went our separate ways to the same news conference.
Biden was a buoyant soul who had been told he should be president since he was elected to the Senate at 29. And he wasn’t going to let the plagiarism scandal, or his pursuant health problems, stop him. He had two aneurysms in 1988 and later said his doctors told him he wouldn’t be alive if his campaign had continued, and he kidded me that I’d saved his life. He also did not let the other tragedies that scarred his life drag him down.
I marveled at the fact that Biden forgave me. He told me that it was better that we stay on good terms. He did not get mad, even when I joked that his new hair plugs looked like a field of okra during the Clarence Thomas-Anita Hill hearings. He called to chastise me, with good humor, but I hid under my desk, afraid to take the call.
I officially voted NO in our poll. Fu*k you, Maureen and the other media putting profits before country.
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I know the usual suspects will be going "here we go" to this little story, but I have been down on the NYT for years after the blatantly liked about Pope Benedict's ties to Child abusers. Basically they said that a Priest on trial (I cant remember if it was a church trial or Law courts) for Child abuse wrote to the then Cardinal Asking him to intervene, and soon afterwards the Trial was stopped. Totally damning... except that they left out that the Cardinal wrote back saying "Hell no," and the trial was stopped because the Priest died. Those were pretty important little bits of context to accidentality leave out. And there was other stuff like them relying on an incorrectly translated Italian transcript and a Bishop who had been blackmailed by his Homosexual lover and other stuff.
Of course when the Vatican came out strong with receipts showing the world that this was bullshit, the NYT failed to apologise and neither did the world press, and people here will still be saying "But he did!!" so what can you do?
Now granted I wouldn't be in the Market for the NYT anyway, but ever since then the NYT was on my "take with a few gallons of salt" list. And nothing they have come put with since has changed my mind. The NYT is probably reliable on some subjects but most others its the "hell no," list.
Of course when the Vatican came out strong with receipts showing the world that this was bullshit, the NYT failed to apologise and neither did the world press, and people here will still be saying "But he did!!" so what can you do?
Now granted I wouldn't be in the Market for the NYT anyway, but ever since then the NYT was on my "take with a few gallons of salt" list. And nothing they have come put with since has changed my mind. The NYT is probably reliable on some subjects but most others its the "hell no," list.
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I just saw a Facebook comment that made me laugh way too much.
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If you thought the Debate was bad, just wait for the Swimsuit competition.
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RIght on. The man has a way with words. P.S. Fuck the ACJ.
Aaron Rupar @atrupar wrote: Sen. Raphael Warnock on Meet the Press: "There have been more than a few Sundays where I wished I preached a better sermon. But after the sermon was over, it was my job to embody the message, to show up for the people that I serve. And that's what Joe Biden has been doing."
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Don't call it a comeback, he's been here for years doing the work. It's just keeping on.
CALL TO ACTIVISM @CalltoActivism wrote: JUST IN: Future Speaker of the House Hakeem Jeffries pours WATER over the idea that Democrats are plotting to replace Biden in strong remarks on MSNBC.
His remarks were incredibly honest and a much watch:
“It was an underwhelming performance on Thursday during the debate, as President Biden and his campaign have acknowledged.
It certainly was a setback. But of course, I believe a setback is nothing more than a setup for a comeback.
And the reality is Joe Biden has confronted and had to come back from tragedy, from trials, from tribulations throughout his entire life.
So the moment that we're in right now is a comeback moment.”
I think he’s right. What about you?
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Been seeing clips of Gov. Moore the last few days, got to say I'm impressed.
And might I add, what an inane question, answered with grace.
And might I add, what an inane question, answered with grace.
Face The Nation @FaceTheNation wrote: "Are you confident that the only person, the only Democrat in America that could beat Donald Trump is Joe Biden?" @margbrennan asks Maryland @GovWesMoore.
Moore: "Joe Biden is our nominee. Joe Biden is our leader...And Joe Biden deserves the confidence, the respect, and frankly, the partnership that we now have to provide to him."
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Republicans against Trump @RpsAgainstTrump wrote: Anderson Cooper: “You just endorsed President Biden the day before the debate”
Former Trump campaign adviser David Urban: “How’s that going for you?”
@AdamKinzinger: “You know what I’m proud of? I’m proud that I’m not standing here sitting on a stage supporting a man who’s a habitual liar”
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White male fragility. She's talking about white male fragility.
Mueller, She Wrote @MuellerSheWrote wrote: The loudest voices calling for Biden to step aside - Bill Kristol, the Pod Save bros, Charlie Sykes, Tim Miller, David Corn, Tom Nichols, Steve Schmidt - they all have something in common. Can’t quite put my finger on it.
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Bullshit. I don't believe you.
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