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sugar magnolia wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 4:51 pm Do these (I'm including our AG in MS) chunky fucknuts actually go to lawyering school, or do they just buy a Black's and try to pretend like they did?
Of course not! Ain't 'lowed to buy Blacks no more.
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So some lawyers ignore laws they don't like while making up legal reasonings for doing legal stuff they want to do. Moreover, they make up legal reasons why you can't do the legal things YOU want to do which offends them.

Now substitute evangelical leader and Bible for the above and you have the same situation in religion.
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MN-Skeptic wrote: Fri Jun 21, 2024 9:15 pm So some lawyers ignore laws they don't like while making up legal reasonings for doing legal stuff they want to do. Moreover, they make up legal reasons why you can't do the legal things YOU want to do which offends them.

Now substitute evangelical leader and Bible for the above and you have the same situation in religion.
Law and the bible are tools to use for their power and control, nothing more.
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"Laws are made to instruct the good, and in the hope that there may be no need of them; also to control the bad, whose hardness of heart will not be hindered from crime." - Plato.
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Merchan partially lifts gag order.
https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/pre ... gOrder.pdf

Loomer has not read the decision very carefully, apparently.
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As an outsider I would be in favour of keeping most of the gag order up until the whole of the appeal process is over. Especially on the jurors. Just in case of the unlikely case of a re-trial, the defendant could take the current jurors apart in public that could have a frightening effect on future jurors.
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Question: just for the fun - a technicality - assuming there were a re-trial, how does on ensure that future jurors come with an open mind? Following the trial everyone has heard and read of the proceedings in detail. At the begin of the trial the jurors were asked to abstain from reading.
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RTH10260 wrote: Tue Jun 25, 2024 4:13 pm Question: just for the fun - a technicality - assuming there were a re-trial, how does on ensure that future jurors come with an open mind? Following the trial everyone has heard and read of the proceedings in detail.
This is common in any high-profile trial, even those being tried for the first time.

Some people genuinely know little to nothing. Some will have forgotten the details. And many will say they can aside what they had consumed previously, and will judge only the evidence presented. (And many of those people will be telling the truth.)

A prospective juror's knowledge of the case occasionally comes on appeal, but appellate courts expect the trial court and the parties to suss out who is impermissibly biased or otherwise unable to set aside prior knowledge.
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Trump's NJ golf club liquor licenses are in Jr.'s name. Hiding behind his son isn't helping as the state moves to revoke
https://www.businessinsider.com/nj-pull ... ies-2024-6
The liquor licenses for Donald Trump’s three New Jersey golf courses are in his eldest son’s name, not his own, according to records obtained by Business Insider. But hiding behind Donald Trump, Jr. isn’t enough to protect the elder Trump.

On Friday, state officials said Trump’s new felony record bars him from profiting from the licenses. They announced they will not renew the licenses for Trump National Bedminster and Trump National Golf Club in Colts Neck due to last month’s felony hush-money conviction.

“A review by ABC indicates that Mr. Trump maintains a direct beneficial interest in the three liquor licenses through the receipt of revenues and profits from them, as the sole beneficiary of the Donald J. Trump Revocable Trust,” the AG’s spokesperson said. :snippity:
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Good. :thumbsup:
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Maybe they found "Jr." written in sharpie on all the paperwork
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slowly, slowly, folks, not all is lost for the teetotaler yet ...
New Jersey to hold hearing on 2 Trump golf course liquor licenses following felony convictions

By WAYNE PARRY
Updated 11:47 PM GMT+2, June 28, 2024

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP) — New Jersey regulators will hold a hearing next month on whether two golf courses owned by former President Donald Trump should have their liquor licenses renewed following his felony convictions in May in New York.

His company, the Trump Organization, predicted the licenses will not be affected, and cautioned against an investigation that it claimed could be “political in nature.”

The licenses for Trump golf courses in Colts Neck and Bedminster expire on Sunday. The state Division of Alcoholic Beverage Control said Friday it is not renewing the licenses, but it is issuing temporary 90-day permits to allow them to continue serving alcohol until a hearing on the licenses is held on July 19 in Trenton.

The hearing is scheduled for after Trump’s sentencing on July 11.

“During such a hearing, the applicant bears the burden of proof to demonstrate by a preponderance of the evidence that they remain qualified to maintain licensure, which includes a review of any beneficiaries of the licenses,” the state Attorney General’s Office said in a statement.

The license for a third Trump-owned golf course, in Pine Hill, has been renewed by the municipality, the state said.



https://apnews.com/article/trump-liquor ... 94d327caf7
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New ad campaign: Come to Pine Hill, where we allow felons to have liquor licenses.
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Let's all take a moment to reflect on the fact the the GOP would have us elect as President a (so-called) man that is ineligible to even hold a liquor license. But he's eligible to be President? Make it make sense!
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raison de arizona wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 10:25 am Let's all take a moment to reflect on the fact the the GOP would have us elect as President a (so-called) man that is ineligible to even hold a liquor license. But he's eligible to be President? Make it make sense!
You mean drinking bleach to treat COVID wasn't good enough for you?
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America First Legal wrote: Today, America First Legal (AFL) filed a formal administrative complaint with the Federal Election Commission (FEC) against New York County District Attorney Alvin L. Bragg, Jr. and Joe Biden’s principal campaign committee, Biden for President, for violations of the Federal Election Campaign Act.

In December 2022, Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg reportedly hired Matthew B. Colangelo to “jump-start” his office’s investigation of President Trump due to Mr. Colangelo’s “history of taking on Donald J. Trump and his family business.” Colangelo left his post as the number three in the DOJ to join the district attorney’s office – a move that reeks of partisanship.

Colangelo previously held senior positions in the U.S. Department of Justice (DOJ) and the New York Attorney General’s Office, both of which had competing investigations related to President Trump. Notably, before joining the Biden DOJ, Colangelo contributed several times to Bragg’s District Attorney campaign.

The available information indicates that Bragg’s hush money prosecution was “coordinated” with President Biden, i.e., it was made “in cooperation, consultation or concert with, or at the request or suggestion of” Biden.

Effectively, Bragg acted “in cooperation, consultation, or concert, with, or at the request of” Biden to influence the 2024 presidential election.
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Sounds like smart hiring to me.
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raison de arizona wrote: Sun Jun 30, 2024 12:43 pm
America First Legal wrote: The available information indicates that Bragg’s hush money prosecution was “coordinated” with President Biden, i.e., it was made “in cooperation, consultation or concert with, or at the request or suggestion of” Biden.
That would be the "information" available from their posteriors. But I guess it doesn't sound as good if they describe it as farts.

Liars gotta lie.
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How is that supposed to work?
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Chilidog wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:29 pm How is that supposed to work?
While the porn star payments and assorted occurred BEFORE he was president, the reimbursements to Cohen happened AFTER he was president, making the whole sordid mess off limits due to immunity.

He claims.

Is my understanding. I haven't read the article because it is NYT and fuck them.
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Tweets made while in office may well be off limits.
Kaitlan Collins @kaitlancollins wrote: Trump attorney Will Scharf argues his New York conviction could be overturned because Trump’s tweets from when he was in office were used. “At the very least, you deserve a new trial where those immune acts will not come into evidence as the Supreme Court dictated today.”
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raison de arizona wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 10:49 pm Tweets made while in office may well be off limits.
The good news is the judge can (and likely will) say, "Even if I exclude all evidence from after January 20, 2017, there's still enough evidence beyond a reasonable doubt to convict. DENNIED."

And the issue is preserved for appeal, so the appellate court can look at the case.
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