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RTH10260 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 11:54 am
jemcanada2 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 10:07 am Now I want to watch the videos Epict(can’t remember how to spell it) made of Orly’s trials! :lol: :lol:
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I think his video clips were only hosted on the creation webservice and that did go out of service shortly after.
At least some were posted on Youtube. This is my favourite one, because I love "Alternative Taitz."

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Suranis wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 1:20 pm
RTH10260 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 11:54 am
jemcanada2 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 10:07 am Now I want to watch the videos Epict(can’t remember how to spell it) made of Orly’s trials! :lol: :lol:
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I think his video clips were only hosted on the creation webservice and that did go out of service shortly after.
At least some were posted on Youtube. This is my favourite one, because I love "Alternative Taitz."

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jemcanada2 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 1:22 pm Thank you, Mouse!! :bighug:
No trouble! This is the channel so you can enjoy them all.

https://www.youtube.com/@AntiBirther
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Reality Check wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 9:49 am Wasn't there another Taitz case filed in a federal court in Texas that was dismissed the same evening it was filed? Or am I think of Brockhausen v Andrade?
Rhodes v Gates, WD Texas. The case was a motion for a TRO. The rest of the Rhodes fun happened in Georgia.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/44 ... s-v-gates/
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Oh yeah, the Georgia Rhodes v McDonald case where she was sanctioned also had the issue of Orly filing for a stay to Rhodes's deployment without Rhodes's permission, or even knowledge. She wrote the court to explain such as she was about to go to Iraq as ordered.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 5.18.0.pdf

Yeah, Rhodes was nothing but a toy for Orly to use.
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northland10 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 1:56 pm :snippity:
Yeah, Rhodes was nothing but a toy for Orly to use.
I think the saying that we applied to Orly fit very well: She didn't have clients she had plaintiffs.
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I allowed Leonard Daneman, aka ParalegalNM, to comment again over at my blog. Man this guy is stupid and dishonest to boot. He is proud "that he had his own page at the Fogbow". I hated to burst his bubble that as Birthers go he was not only not minor league but never even in the ball park. Starts about here https://rcradioblog.wordpress.com/2013/ ... ment-69123

Another typical stupid Birther move is that he is commenting on an 11 year old post. :brickwallsmall:
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northland10 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 1:56 pm Oh yeah, the Georgia Rhodes v McDonald case where she was sanctioned also had the issue of Orly filing for a stay to Rhodes's deployment without Rhodes's permission, or even knowledge. She wrote the court to explain such as she was about to go to Iraq as ordered.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 5.18.0.pdf

Yeah, Rhodes was nothing but a toy for Orly to use.
And Orly decried the authenticity of that letter far and wide. BUT WAIT! THERE'S MORE!!

Bogus info and I put on our Sherlock Holmes/Dr. Watson caps (not gonna say which was which :batting: ) and we not only found the Kinko's strore from which she created and copied it but the person working there who helped her do it. And Orly was ... curses! Foiled again.
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northland10 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 1:56 pm Oh yeah, the Georgia Rhodes v McDonald case where she was sanctioned also had the issue of Orly filing for a stay to Rhodes's deployment without Rhodes's permission, or even knowledge. She wrote the court to explain such as she was about to go to Iraq as ordered.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... 5.18.0.pdf
Most lawyers who were the subject of a letter like that would be looking for a copy of "What Color is Your Parachute?"
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Suranis wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 1:20 pm
RTH10260 wrote: Thu May 16, 2024 11:54 am
Epectitus

I think his video clips were only hosted on the creation webservice and that did go out of service shortly after.
At least some were posted on Youtube. This is my favourite one, because I love "Alternative Taitz."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=achV6pIAfno
:thumbsup: good to remember that - I checked and am still subscribed ;)

link to the video list https://www.youtube.com/@AntiBirther/videos
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From the Former Fogbow discussion of the Rhodes case and Holder's visit to a coffee shop:
Reality Check » Sun Oct 04, 2009 8:48 am


Common sense would also tell you that they actually have telephones in Georgia now and Holder could have just picked up the phone and called Judge Land.
That would have been a beautiful phone call. A perfect phone call.

Trump did not bother showing up at a coffee shop across the street from the Secretary of State's office, he just called.
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P&E: “NBC” Returns to “X”:
On Sunday morning, “X” user “Patriotess” asked why 2024 Independent presidential candidate Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. “wud…choose someone Constitutionally INELIGIBLE to hold office of VP/POTUS?” in a reference to Nicole Shanahan, Kennedy’s running-mate.

* * *

Patriotess directly posed the question to the Independent ticket along with The Post & Email; former law professor John Eastman; “War Room” host Steve Bannon and his daughter, Maureen; 2024 Trump advocate, prolific writer and Cornell law-school graduate Paul Ingrassia; and several others.

Quoting from an April 1, 2024 article at The Post & Email about Kennedy’s announcement of Shanahan as his vice president, Patriotess commented, “RFK, Jr has chosen a Constitutionally ineligible running mate…And heeeeere we gooooooo again!”

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When we asked Patriotess if she had begun a conversation with Kennedy and/or Shanahan, she told us that “The information has been circulating via Facebook.”

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In a response to Patriotess, “Jersey Girl” asked, “Why is Natural Born Citizen clause constantly ignored? NBC=Born on US soil to 2 citizen parents (plural). A candidate should have to prove they’re a NBC before running for POTUS or VP!…”
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When I first hired on at my current place of work, we had Xerox WorkCenters that were a sister model to Roxy. There was a treasure trove of scanned documents showing the various "anomalies" that had the birthers up in arms. Not long after, we got the next generation, which fixed the JBIG2 issue that could change text inadvertently when using the archival setting, but many of the same anomalies have been present. Today, I learned that Roxy's grandchildren will be coming to our office next month. :dance:
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P&E: Drop Marco Rubio; He is a Wise Guy’s Wise Guise of a Constitutionally-Ineligible VP:
Jonathan David Mooers wrote:You are today’s George Washington, and Melania is today’s Abigail Adams for faithfully offering your continuous support in these Republic-teetering “devolutionary” times.
:shock:

Who is Stormy Daniels in this increasingly tortured metaphor? :think:

(The rest is the usual nothing, like you've seen before.)
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bob wrote: Sun Jun 09, 2024 4:06 pm P&E: Drop Marco Rubio; He is a Wise Guy’s Wise Guise of a Constitutionally-Ineligible VP:
Jonathan David Mooers wrote:You are today’s George Washington, and Melania is today’s Abigail Adams for faithfully offering your continuous support in these Republic-teetering “devolutionary” times.
:shock:

Who is Stormy Daniels in this increasingly tortured metaphor? :think:

(The rest is the usual nothing, like you've seen before.)
Jefferson?
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Some birther rando on Twitter said it was "likely" that Palin was not a natural-born citizen. :shock:

I infer there's some doubt in this rando's mind as to Palin's parents' citizenship at the time of her birth.

(And, yes, I know it just birther nonsense. Just a new-to-me claim.)
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bob wrote: Thu Jun 27, 2024 3:23 pm Some birther rando on Twitter said it was "likely" that Palin was not a natural-born citizen. :shock:

I infer there's some doubt in this rando's mind as to Palin's parents' citizenship at the time of her birth.

(And, yes, I know it just birther nonsense. Just a new-to-me claim.)
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P&E: FEC: “No Jurisdiction” to Verify Citizenship of Federal Candidates:
As reported on September 27 last year, former Minnesota congressional candidate AJ Kern filed an 11-page complaint with the Federal Elections Commission (FEC) alleging campaign-finance violations on the part of Minnesota Fifth District Rep. Ilhan Omar, who is seeking a fourth term in Congress this November.

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Receiving no response from Omar or Samuels to her written requests, in May 2022 Kern filed suit in Minnesota’s Fourth Judicial District with the purpose of compelling proof of U.S. citizenship prior to the placement of their names on the district’s primary ballot.

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On July 1, 2022, Kern’s suit was dismissed by Judge Bridget Ann Sullivan on several grounds, including that the court lacked “subject-matter jurisdiction” as well as the U.S. Constitution’s Article VI, clause 2 provision and state law that “the United States House of Representatives has final say over who is permitted to be a member of that chamber.”

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Kern reported having contacted members of Congress about her concerns regarding Omar’s possible lack of U.S. citizenship but has received no response. Given the apparent nonexistence of guardrails against such activity, Kern wrote in an email, a non-citizen could be “raising millions of dollars in contributions” while defrauding voters with no repercussions.
This is the only actual "news": a gadfly wrote an e-mail. :yawn:
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:crying: :crying: :crying: ... and still noone is taking the Kenyan birth certificate serious and lets Obama get on the elections :crying: :crying: :crying:


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That Palin news SUCKS! She was top of list to be the Democrats SEKRIT WEAPON if Biden dropped out -- Palin as nominee! Damn.

Good ol' AJ is still pumping her screams into the ether. More awful news, checked and she BLOCKED me! :( How will I get my real patriot news now? Thank heavens Sharon Rondeau is following this soon-to-be-legendary news like a hawk.

She's even screaming at MTG. The lady is ANGRY (or HANGRY?)



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She's trying a clever strategy -- spam comments on tweets that have nothing to do with what she's talking about. The only downside is that nobody looks at the comments, likes or responds. But she's... doing something to save the world!!


https://x.com/AJKern8/status/1796693910934159658
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P&E: Of Political Earthquakes, Tsunamis and the 25th Amendment:
DeMaio wrote:The epicenter of the most recent political earthquake took place last Thursday in Atlanta, Georgia and lasted approximately 90 minutes. On the political Richter scale, it measured 10.0. And the 2024 presidential sweepstakes tsunami it has generated will soon inundate the nation.

* * *

Among the more serious issues now being raised as the tsunami approaches DC and the banks of the Potomac is this: will the person occupying the office of the Vice President – Kamala Harris – seriously consider attempting to invoke the 25th Amendment in an effort to replace the slug on the grounds that he is no longer capable of discharging the duties of the office? Indeed, Rep. Chip Roy (R. TX) has already introduced a House Resolution urging her to do exactly that.

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Kamala Harris is arguably not a “natural born Citizen” (“nbC”) as required under Art. 2, § 1, Cl. 5 of the Constitution as likely understood and intended by the Founders. This issue has been addressed and discussed at The P&E here, here and here. Moreover, there is zero historical evidence to suggest that the Founders would have waived the nbC restriction in the case of an “Acting President,” not only because the amendment did not exist until 1967, but also particularly against the backdrop of perilous times such as we now face.

* * *

Accordingly, the only viable alternative to address the “Hobson’s Choice” tsunami approaching DC and the banks of the Potomac is for Speaker of the House Mike Johnson to gather the courage to do that which was suggested to him last October here.

That “free advice” was for him to bring a declaratory judgment action immediately seeking a judicial determination that Harris is not, and never has been, an nbC. If that succeeds, she would be out as Vice President…, parenthetically, a result which might not be altogether unacceptable to the Democrats either as their nominating convention approaches.

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Your humble servant first floated the proposal here in August, 2023, when the Speaker of the House was Kevin McCarthy. Since last October, when your humble servant advanced the proposal as to Speaker Johnson, eight more months have been wasted. Each additional day…, each additional week… and each additional month that passes without action such as suggested brings the Republic that much closer to a constitutional crisis, not to mention the threat of military actions by our enemies.

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On the other hand, faithful P&E readers well-understand that your humble servant has for over a decade articulated the differing view, i.e., that the Founders understood and adopted the definition set out by Swiss jurist, attorney and scholar Emer de Vattel. In Book 1, Ch. 19, § 212 of his 1758 treatise “The Law of Nations,” the term is defined as a person born in a country to two parents, a mother and a father, who are already its citizens. Only that definition meets the Founders’ goal of mandating sole and exclusive fidelity and allegiance to the United States and assures the highest barrier against the insinuation of “foreign influence” into the presidency.
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So nice, Rondeau published it twice: P&E: If Biden is Removed, Who Should Replace Him?:
As reported by numerous outlets following Thursday night’s first presidential debate, much consternation ensued among members of the Democrat Party, including some donors, over whether presidential incumbent Joe Biden is capable of serving a second term or should be replaced by another candidate, with the November 5 election just over four months away.

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As readers of this publication will know, when it was first rumored Harris herself would seek the presidency, California citizen Gary Wilmott contacted Harris’s U.S. Senate office to discover whether she is a “natural born Citizen” as required for the president by Article II, Section 1, clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution.

“Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 mandates that a president be a NATURAL-born citizen, which you clearly are not,” Wilmott wrote in December 2017. “At the time of your birth, BOTH of your parents were citizens of foreign countries, so your birth in California makes you at best a NATIVE-born citizen (anchor baby?) under the prevailing view of the 14th Amendment. Lest you think that I have Republican bias I would also point out that presidential wannabes Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio also fail to meet this higher standard of citizenship. Their campaigns were fraudulent and in clear violation of the U.S. Constitution.”

The 12th Amendment requires vice-presidential candidates meet all of the eligibility criteria for president.

A number of constitutional scholars believe the “natural born Citizen” clause to mean, “born in the country to parents who are citizens” and have rejected the contemporary interpretation that simply “born in the country” is enough to satisfy the Framers’ intent.

Neither of Harris’s parents was a U.S. citizen when she was born in Oakland, CA in October 1964. Her father was born in Jamaica and her mother in India, meeting when were attending the same university on student visas in the early 1960s.

There is evidence that only Kamala’s father, Donald Harris, naturalized, though long after Kamala and her sister Maya were born. According to documents obtained from the U.S. Citizenship and Naturalization Service (USCIS), Shyamala Gopalan Harris became a U.S. permanent resident in April 1968.

Harris did not respond to early inquiries from The Post & Email about her eligibility or lack thereof, though she addressed the “conspiracy theory” put forth in an August 12, 2020 Newsweek editorial by Trump supporter and then-Chapman University Professor of Law John Eastman.

“The fact that Senator Kamala Harris has just been named the vice presidential running mate for presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has some questioning her eligibility for the position,” Eastman began his column. “The 12th Amendment provides that ‘no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.’ And Article II of the Constitution specifies that ‘[n]o person except a natural born citizen…shall be eligible to the office of President.’ Her father was (and is) a Jamaican national, her mother was from India, and neither was a naturalized U.S. citizen at the time of Harris’ birth in 1964. That, according to these commentators, makes her not a ‘natural born citizen’—and therefore ineligible for the office of the president and, hence, ineligible for the office of the vice president.”

According to Brooke Singman of Fox News at the time while referencing an interview between Harris and “The Grio,” “Harris is a United States citizen born in California in 1964, making her eligible to serve as president or vice president under the U.S. Constitution.”

As with many media, Fox substituted “United States citizen” for “natural born Citizen” despite acknowledging Eastman’s use of the proper term.

Harris claimed Republicans’ ruminations about her eligibility amounted to “lies” and “deception.”

The “X” (formerly Twitter) account held by “kancelkamala” has released a considerable amount of documentation about Harris’s background, including that of her parents, revealing that Shyamala Gopalan Harris might never have become a U.S. citizen.
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Hey! In that article, Rharon goes on and on about Gary Wilmott:
As readers of this publication will know, when it was first rumored Harris herself would seek the presidency, California citizen Gary Wilmott contacted Harris’s U.S. Senate office to discover whether she is a “natural born Citizen” as required for the president by Article II, Section 1, clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution.
But not a PEEP about Rev Dr Laity Esq's slamdunk lawsuit! Laity is even a SPONSOR of the P&E.

Did Laity have a falling out with Rondeau? Is she performing a Walt Fitzpatrick-esque memory hole on him?
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Luke wrote: Mon Jul 01, 2024 3:35 am Did Laity have a falling out with Rondeau? Is she performing a Walt Fitzpatrick-esque memory hole on him?
P&E comments:
Laity wrote:Biden can and should be impeached, convicted and removed from office for the Bribery, High crimes and misdemeanors that it has been demonstrated that he did indeed engage in. Kamala Harris would NOT be able to assume the Presidency since she is not the bona-fide VP. It would then fall upon the Speaker of the House Mike Johnson, under the Presidential Succession Act to assume the Presidency. Biden is a criminal and he is non-compos-mentis. Harris is ineligible. This nation has both our Presidency and our Vice-Presidency COMPROMISED.

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Harris is NOT a Natual Born Citizen. She is NOT our current VP. “By law”, she has NO authority to invoke the 25th Amendment against Biden. Even if she wanted to. In an ideal world, Harris would be arrested for usurping her office. Biden would then be able to appoint a new VP. Only that VP, given that he or she IS bona-fide would then have the authority to invoke the 25th Amendment before Biden’s office could be assumed by the VP. The new president would then appoint his or her VP until such time as any incapacity of the prior president (Biden) is removed. Biden would then notify congress that any incapacitation no longer exists and would reassume the Presidency.

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It is too late to replace Biden. He has been been voted in by the Voters of America and is the presumptive Democrat candidate for POTUS. There are (16) States that prohibit a mid-stream change such as this. The voters determine elections and not the respective parties. Biden is incompetent, He is non compos mentis. A VP MUST participate under the 25th Amendment to remove a President because of disability or impairment.

The problem here is that currently there is NO bona-fide VP. Kamala Harris is NOT an Article II NBC and is NOT the bona-fide. VP.

This MEANS that Biden as incompetent and disabled to be POTUS and Harris’s illegality in office CASTS THE Presidency on Speaker Mike Johnson.

BOTH the President and the VP are legally encumbered at this time. There are “vacancies” in both offices. Johnson IS POTUS.
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A message @ Laity - you ought to travel to D.C. and speak with the Republican members of the House, they are vigiorously attempting to fulfill your wish. Just bring some more evidence along with you, expanded 'zibits get their attention :roll: :lol:
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