US v. Trump - Espionage Act - (9:23-cr-80101) District Court, S.D. Florida

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Will this case go to trial before the primary elections?

Yes, and it will be a wonderful circus
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23%
No, Judge Cannon will dismiss the case on a motion to dismiss
6
5%
No, Trump’s attorneys will work out a plea bargain
2
2%
No, the case will be in the appeals court through the 2024 election
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No, Judge Cannon will grant numerous motions to delay the case
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29%
No, this case will NEVER go to trial, but I don't know what will happen
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8%
Some other option, which I will describe in a post.
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3%
Debilitating brain aneurysm
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10%
 
Total votes: 124

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That letter from Obama to djt on inauguration day, I expect that got hand shredded and sent down the drain. Staff was not yet trained to pick the wastebins and recover the puzzle pieces.
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The 2028 primary elections?
Largo al factotum.
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https://twitter.com/joshgerstein/status ... 9574878383
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JUST IN: Trump lawyer Christopher Kise tells Judge Cannon, who's handling classified docs case, he will be out of commission from April 29 to 'at least' May 14 due to unspecified surgery.
https://twitter.com/Guyotat212563/statu ... 009605134

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Have to be careful with notices of unavailability in the Southern District of Florida.

[Image of an "Order Striking Notice of Unavailability" in another S.D. Fla. case, a decade ago]
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My freeform summary of judge's reply in the image in the tweet:
:fingerwag: :nope: this will not do, you disappoint me, try again, and bring cookies for opposing counsel and the court
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Walt Nauta entered a motion to dismiss the lawsuit against him.

MTN Michael Popok comments and explains
Trump Co-Defendant FORGOT HIS ARGUMENT in Court

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Trump butler and Mar a Lago co conspirator Walt Nauta to step on a bad news cycle where a cooperating witness informed the FBI that Nauta was told to lie to the FBI to protect Trump in return for a pardon, filed a meritless motion claiming prosecutorial misconduct by the Special Counsel, and then FORGOT TO INCLUDE ANY EXAMPLES OF PROSECUTOR MISCONDUCT. Michael Popok analyzes the latest attempt to delay the Mar a Lago trial and why explains why it should BE DENIED.

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If this motion interests you, you'd be better off skimming the government's brief than sitting through this video.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .486.0.pdf

I should note that I stopped listening after about 2 minutes at 1.5 speed.
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Federalist is reporting that Biden sent classified docs to tfg and then prosecuted him for receiving them? (Sean Davis is the CEO and Co-Founder of
@FDRLST)
https://twitter.com/seanmdav/status/1785339905297481918
Sean Davis @seanmdav wrote: The corrupt Biden administration sent Trump documents he didn’t ask for, then prosecuted him for having those documents.
The Federalist @FDRLST wrote: Federal Agency Had ‘Pallets’ Of Documents Sent To Mar-A-Lago One Year Before DOJ Raid
https://thefederalist.com/2024/04/30/fe ... -doj-raid/
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OFFS.
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And stashed them in the golden bathroom.

Yeah, seems all reasonable.
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The Federalist @FDRLST wrote: Federal Agency Had ‘Pallets’ Of Documents Sent To Mar-A-Lago One Year Before DOJ Raid
https://thefederalist.com/2024/04/30/fe ... -doj-raid/
Skimming the smocking gun, it appears the GSA shipped stuff for the Office of the Former President and Office of Former Vice President. :yawn:

Nothing about shipping governmental documents.
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Joyce Vance includes a lot of info about dates in this case. We know that the judge threw out the May trial date, saying that other matters had to be ruled on. That schedule is listed in this article.

https://joycevance.substack.com/p/mar-a ... irect=true
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Judge Cannon will allow several non-parties to participate in oral argument during a hearing set to take place later this month on Trump’s motion to dismiss the classified documents case based on “the unlawful appointment of Special Counsel Jack Smith.”
Allowing amicus briefs to be submitted before a district court is rare. Allowing an amicus to present oral argument before any court is extraordinary. It very rarely happens before an appellate court. I want to say that I've never heard of its being done before a district court, but I've got a faint vague memory that I've read about its happening in on-beyond-extraordinary circumstances when one party's counsel is hopelessly incompetent for the issue presented and the court isn't in a position to require the party to obtain different counsel.

Allowing three amicus representatives to present argument and giving each 30 minutes is in the category of "We're characters in a Bugs Bunny cartoon and we can do anything that the art director can think up."
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Honestly at this point Smith should just drop the case. Sure it's the strongest of criminal cases against Zee Orange Furher, but it's clear Cannon is intent on putting her thumb on the scale in the defense's favor. Time to stop wasting taxpayer money.
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The three who are doing oral arguments, are they legit attorneys or are they birther loons?
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New Turtle wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:55 pm The three who are doing oral arguments, are they legit attorneys or are they birther loons?
Blackman appears to be a Federalist loon who gets protested at campus events. Dunno about the other two yet.
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Frater I*I wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 7:31 pm Honestly at this point Smith should just drop the case. Sure it's the strongest of criminal cases against Zee Orange Furher, but it's clear Cannon is intent on putting her thumb on the scale in the defense's favor. Time to stop wasting taxpayer money.
Never. There is no way I would rather see my tax dollars spent. Whereas if he dropped it, I'd consider never paying taxes again I'd be so furious. Anyway, he'll get her eventually.
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p0rtia wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 9:39 pm :snippity:

Never. There is no way I would rather see my tax dollars spent. Whereas if he dropped it, I'd consider never paying taxes again I'd be so furious. Anyway, he'll get her eventually.
To plat Devil's Advocate here...Smith is never gonna get Cannon removed, that is the consensus I get from our Fogboz lawyer gallery. So I dare ask, with her presiding over this case do you see a conviction in the pipeline? Because I don't. As I said, this is indeed the strongest of the felony cases against Zee Orange Furher, but with Cannon so intent on pushing the scale of justice in his favor, what is the worth of the outcome? He gets acquitted, but yet there is some sort of moral victory?

I love my Fogbowzers like a family [indeed some of you know things about me even my parents don't know], however this one I see as a hill that is not worth dying on.

Cannon is determined to get Zee Orange Furher off, the bias is clear, why waste anymore time on it?
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Because sometimes continuing doing what is right matters more than surrendering to injustice.
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Dave from down under wrote: Tue Jun 04, 2024 10:26 pm Because sometimes continuing doing what is right matters more than surrendering to injustice.
:thumbsup:

She's making more of an ass of herself. Even the non-lawyers are catching on this is weird. A few have offered to give their 30 minutes in court. :twisted:
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Too also: If the judge dismisses due to this theory, it is appealable. So the case lives on (in the appellate court).

Of course, it is debatable whether the defendant will live on. (NADT.)
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After 1,000 complaints in one week, court no longer accepting ‘orchestrated’ complaints about judge in Trump’s Florida case

Tierney Sneed and Hannah Rabinowitz
Updated Tue, June 4, 2024 at 1:22 PM GMT+2·1 min read

A federal appeals court will no longer accept complaints about Aileen Cannon, the judge presiding over the federal criminal case against Donald Trump in Florida, that appear to be part of an “orchestrated campaign.”

The May 22 opinion from the 11th Circuit Judicial Council, which oversees lower courts in Florida, said that since May 16, 2024, the clerk has received more than 1,000 complaints “that raise allegations that are similar to the allegations raised in previous complaints.” The council ordered the court clerk to stop accepting similar complaints.

It’s not clear what exactly started the onslaught of complaints after May 16. Last month, Cannon indefinitely postponed the start of the trial in the Trump case, where he has been accused of mishandling classified documents.

Several complaints against Cannon “question the correctness of her rulings or her delays in issuing rulings” in the classified documents case, the judicial council’s opinion said. Those complaints included allegations “unsupported by any evidence” that Cannon has an “improper motive in delaying the case,” according to the opinion.




https://www.yahoo.com/news/1-000-compla ... 02357.html
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It's not clear?

That's some in-depth reporting there.
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In general, the judicial councils of the courts of appeals exist to provide a forum for parties to complain about misbehavior on the part of judges hearing their cases, misbehavior of a sort that cannot be addressed in the usual course through appellate review. The councils would probably also entertain certain kinds of complaints of misbehavior by a judge in her personal capacity that reflected poorly on the court, but that doesn't apply here. And of course, the only way to remove a federal judge for misconduct is by impeachment.

The clowns who urged members of the public to file complaints about Judge Cannon were accomplishing nothing, and in fact it was harmful. Orchestrated campaigns of criticism against a judge are likely to cause her colleagues to circle the wagons in her defense.
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