Kyle Rittenhouse, previous owner of a Smith & Wesson M&P15

[poplove]

Ya it got in fashion a few years ago to call everything and emotional support animal. What seems to have gotten everyone yelling "ENOUGH!" was when a story went viral of a Woman trying to bring her emotional support Peacock onto a plane.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42880690

A female traveller was recently banned from taking a large "emotional-support peacock" on board a United Airlines flight, it has emerged.

She had offered to buy the bird its own plane ticket, according to travel blog Live and Let Fly.

Nonetheless the airline refused to let the bird board at Newark airport in New Jersey, saying it did not meet guidelines due to its weight and size.

United says this was explained to the traveller before she arrived at Newark.

Pictures of the striking bird and its owner, attempting to travel to Los Angeles, emerged via The Jet Set, a travel-based talk show.

The images show the animal perched on an airport baggage trolley, as fellow passengers gaze at it in shock.

After six hours at the airport, the exotic bird and its human companions decided to take to the road and instead drive across the US.

Real emotional support animals are highly trained, and don't allow people to pet them.

I'm wondering who trained and certified Wally.

[Baidn]

My read is there was a secondary goal of raising Rittenhouse's public credibility by association. He was asked to speak at a university as if he was a subject matter expert worth the time investment to listen to.

Basically I imagine it was planned a win-win for TPUSA. If his appearance sparks controversy, he gets press time as a martyr for the cause once again. That's good for the grifting. OTOH, if his appearance goes well, it becomes a net positive for his resume, and they can parlay that for future events.

The absolute worst thing that could have happened to him was no one attended his lecture, that no controversies emerged, and he fizzled into a big yawn. Apathy rather than antipathy would have spelled his doom.

I think what happened is actually the worst for him, he froze up, couldn't respond (could barely try to deflect) and eventually ran away to cry. Then he lied about it in a way that won't even seem plausible to most people.

[Baidn]

This went even better than I hoped I wonder if his fawning defender will talk about how rude they were?

Is that me?

You are a fawning Rittenhouse fanboy who wants the same outcomes that white supremacist do.

[pipistrelle]

I think what happened is actually the worst for him, he froze up, couldn't respond (could barely try to deflect) and eventually ran away to cry. Then he lied about it in a way that won't even seem plausible to most people.

Yeah, even some of his fanboys on twitter thought his performance was pathetic.

[Rolodex]

For a lot of them it's just more of their perpetual victimhood.

[andersweinstein]

You are a fawning Rittenhouse fanboy who wants the same outcomes that white supremacist do.

I can't believe you're reading me seriously if you think that. But on outcomes:

First, on principle, a case should be decided on the facts and law without any consideration of the effect of the outcome. My opinion has always been that he had a pretty strong self-defense case and his liberal haters have been blinded to that fact by lack of information and prejudice and attachment to a false narrative in some quarters of liberal media. Desiring some outcome is not a consideration.

But second, I don't believe the verdict will have any deleterious outcome. No rational person should want to go through what Rittenhouse went through simply because he was acquitted in the end. If not for the extremely unusual circumstance that he was able to crowdfund 2 million dollars cash bail (no bond in WI), he would have languished in pre-trial detention for over a year. And any jury trial is a crapshoot, he was under non-zero risk of a mandatory life sentence no matter how good he thought his case was. And of course in other cases like the one in Austin, right-winger shooters have been convicted. And now it is impossible for him to lead a normal life; he will be vilified by one side wherever he goes.

True, people are not always rational. Perhaps a malignant idiot does look at all that and think "hey, Rittenhouse got off, I can shoot protestors too". But there's no accounting for what idiots think. I never believed we're going to see a spate of people wanting to emulate Rittenhouse simply because he was lucky enough to be acquitted in the end. I think that's been borne out.

[Dave from down under]

[raison de arizona]

Unpopular opinion: I think Anders makes some good points. I don’t agree with them, but they are well thought out and valid and I hate to see him crapped on.

[bill_g]

I think what happened is actually the worst for him, he froze up, couldn't respond (could barely try to deflect) and eventually ran away to cry. Then he lied about it in a way that won't even seem plausible to most people.

Thinking on this, you have a point. He really is unprepared for this. Perhaps his days as a cause celebre are over.

OTOH, he has a narcissistic streak fed by those hoping to profit off him compelling him to get out in front again only to get smacked down over and over. It's almost tragic.

[Tiredretiredlawyer]

Unpopular opinion: I think Anders makes some good points. I don’t agree with them, but they are well thought out and valid and I hate to see him crapped on.

I agree with Anders about the verdict not necessarily causing others to follow Rittenhouse’s example. I agree with raison about Anders being crapped on. I never understood the tinder point the Rittenhouse case caused on the Fogbow.

[Baidn]

You are a fawning Rittenhouse fanboy who wants the same outcomes that white supremacist do.

I can't believe you're reading me seriously if you think that.

I'm sure you disavow David Duke too

[andersweinstein]

If anyone is interested, this has KR's whole session at WKU.
Gives his story of shootings.
Goes into pro-gun rights screeds I could do without.
Interestingly to me, disavows "lies of BLM" in the promotion (which understandably set off some questioners). Said he had nothing to do with the promotion and is not going to talk about "lies of BLM". I believe him, but it's just stupid, all of TPUSA's promotions have this provocative line in it.
It does seem correct his spiel is planned for only 30 minutes including Q&A.

[pipistrelle]

Unpopular opinion: I think Anders makes some good points. I don’t agree with them, but they are well thought out and valid and I hate to see him crapped on.

I stopped reading them when it became clear it was always going to be, "My take on the evidence is the correct one, and any other is wrong." We all think that way about our particular takes on anything, but things like KR's fake tears on the stand were a "panic attack" did my head in. I think it best not to crap on so much as move on.

[bob]

I stopped reading them when it became clear it was always going to be, "My take on the evidence is the correct one, and any other is wrong."

And "bonus" repackaging of opinion as fact.

[Dave from down under]

My triggers are

Hypocrites
Liars
Killers
Enablers
Apologists
Gaslighters
Vigilantes

I’m fully triggered

[sugar magnolia]

How does a video from KY "prove" anything about his speech at Memphis?

[RVInit]

I stopped reading them when it became clear it was always going to be, "My take on the evidence is the correct one, and any other is wrong."

And "bonus" repackaging of opinion as fact.

I quit reading his posts months ago and seriously doubt that I've missed a darn thing.

[andersweinstein]

How does a video from KY "prove" anything about his speech at Memphis?

It doesn't "prove" anything, but since it wasn't disrupted, he was able to talk, I think it gives a sense of what his presentation is supposed to be like. This is a planned tour of certain college campuses in which his coming and going looks managed by security people and the first part of the talk looks rehearsed so I think all the stops are planned to be similar. The only thing I thought it supports (not "proves") is his claim that his appearance is planned to last only about 30 minutes. That's a bit short for an invited speaker -- an hour is much more usual -- but that brief in-and-out seems to be what they are doing, if the WKU event is any guide.

[Suranis]

Well, there are basically two possibilities here.

(a) The Talk was planed for longer, but Hunky Kyle had had enough of being challenged. He cut the talk short, grabbed the Dogs lead and stomped off the stage in a temper.

(b) The Talk was genuinely only planed for half an hour. Hunky Kyle saw the organizer give him the nod that the time was up. But he didn't do the pleasantries of thanking the crowd for coming etc. Instead he immediately grabbed the dogs lead and stomped off the stage in a temper.

Frankly, when you look at it like that, whether the talk was planed for half an hour or longer than that is irrelevant and impossible to prove. Either way, it was his behavior at the end of the night that marks him down as a petulant child. Whom, you could say, would cheerfully shoot someone who didn't respect his authoritay!!

[Foggy]

He wasn't there to be polite, respectful, or even gracious. He was there to try to drum up a controversy and then stomp out, so that's what he did. And hay, it got him another 30 seconds in the American conversation, even though he made himself look like a petulant child doing it. Woot. That's a small success. Tiny.

[Dave from down under]

5.56mm full metal jacket tiny/puny

Without a gun he is nothing

[bill_g]

He still looks like Charlie McCarthy.

And he's still being used like Charlie too.

[bob]

I quit reading his posts months ago and seriously doubt that I've missed a darn thing.

Nothing, like you've heard before.

[bob]

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