Tim Ballard - Disgusting

[Rolodex]

Update on suit against Ballard (and the Utah AG).

Suzanne Whitehead is one of the nine plaintiffs who have filed lawsuits against Tim Ballard and the nonprofit he founded, Operation Underground Railroad.

She says she has proof — audio recordings — showing OUR lied to the public about saving children.

Her civil suit was the fourth case to be filed against Ballard and OUR. It is the only case not focused on Ballard's alleged sexual misconduct, instead accusing OUR and its representatives of trying to silence her when she voiced concerns about the organization on social media.

Utah Attorney General Sean Reyes was also named as a defendant, but Whitehead agreed to drop the case against him after Reyes met with her to personally apologize and promise to not seek re-election.

https://www.fox13now.com/news/fox-13-in ... aise-money

[Rolodex]

Another lawsuit filed against Ballard.
Also filed against OUR and Angle Studios (maker of Sound of Freedom).
The plaintiff is a woman who Ballard claimed was a trafficker and she ended up in prison in Colombia for 18 months. The AG of Utah makes an appearance as a "body guard" on a "rescue mission." Clear info with lots of screen shots of pretty damning texts. Ballard needs to be put under the jail. I wish they'd pull that stupid lying movie off streaming.

[raison de arizona]

tfg leaps to his defense. Only the best!

Fundraiser at Mar-a-Lago for the Legal Defense Fund of Tim Ballard, who is currently being sued by multiple women for sex assault.

[RTH10260]

Familiy values, expressed in $$$

[noblepa]

tfg leaps to his defense. Only the best!

Fundraiser at Mar-a-Lago for the Legal Defense Fund of Tim Ballard, who is currently being sued by multiple women for sex assault.

Any bets that TFG got a very large cut of the take? I'm thinking 50 percent.

[Suranis]

Turnip does not get out of bed for less than 90%.

[RVInit]

Tim Ballard finally made it to Cults To Consciousness.

Edit: I forgot to mention. Sean Reyes gets an honorable mention. Fun stuff. Well, fun with the exception that they actually harmed real people. Real living people. While creating a fiction that Tim Ballard was involved in "saving children from sex trafficking"

[Resume18]

Tim Ballard finally made it to Cults To Consciousness.

Edit: I forgot to mention. Sean Reyes gets an honorable mention. Fun stuff. Well, fun with the exception that they actually harmed real people. Real living people. While creating a fiction that Tim Ballard was involved in "saving children from sex trafficking"

Which Sean Reyes?

[Rolodex]

Isn't Sean Reyes the AG of Utah? He somehow was in cahoots with Ballard. I don't remember the exact context.

[RVInit]

Isn't Sean Reyes the AG of Utah? He somehow was in cahoots with Ballard. I don't remember the exact context.

Yes, that is the Sean Reyes that is mentioned in this video.

[RVInit]

Hidden True Crime has done a couple of episodes about Ballard and his fake "saving children" organization.

Keep in mind that he rubs elbows with the Dotard, he was named as some kind of special envoy for saving children. The old bag of pus is really impressed with Ballard. Dr John has Tim's number.

Edit: I should say that most of the people who really follow this are having no problem at all believing the American women victims mainly because such a large number of the men who used to be involved with Ballard believe them, they know them personally. The allegations are very specific, these are the victims of the "couples ruse" that Ballard made up in order to have sex with these women that thought they were helping to save children. These are all people who used to go on "operations" with Ballard. And most of them became very disillusioned and confused about what they really were involved in. They never could get answers for whatever happened to the kids from that operation we did last week. And Ballard would wave it off and with some nonsensical answer. Most of them figured out it was all just cosplay. And when the women came forward that is when Ballard was forced out of O.U.R.

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Judge dismisses 'emotional distress' lawsuit against Tim Ballard and Operation Underground Railroad

Adam Herbets
Posted 5:32 AM, Sep 04, 2024 and last updated 6:01 AM, Sep 04, 2024

SALT LAKE CITY — One of the lawsuits against Tim Ballard and the nonprofit he founded has been dismissed.

FOX 13 News interviewed plaintiff Suzanne Whitehead earlier this year.

She has been working with human trafficking victims on and off for 14 years.

Whitehead filed her lawsuit against Operation Underground Railroad (OUR) last November, accusing the group of inflicting “emotional distress.”

She says it started when she criticized the organization, arguing that OUR operators are creating additional demand for human trafficking in the countries they visit.


https://www.fox13now.com/news/fox-13-in ... d-railroad

[RVInit]

This doesn't surprise me. Ballard is besties with Donald Trump and Sean Reyes. There is no way he, or the organization, will ever be held to account for Ballard's behavior.

It's amazing to me how many of the men who were so gung ho to play white hat saving children in a foreign country came away from that experience believing it was all just cosplay. Also, Ballard mooched millions of dollars from the Mormon community, every one of whom, I'm sure, believed they were donating to an organization that was saving children. Many organizations that actually have a long history of doing actual good agreed with this woman, that Ballard was often creating the very thing he supposedly was fighting against. He took all that money and would go into some poor village, find a bunch of older teenagers, pull the money out and ask them if they knew of anyone who was selling children for sex. Often those same teenagers would bring their girlfriends, having talked them into harmless sex with American men to make some quick money. These were not children who had been trafficked, these were 18 and 19 year old people snickering about how easy it would be to part these Americans with their money. These "sting" operations Ballard did never panned out to actually nab anyone who had been involved in trafficking children.

He also did operations in what many of the participants would later say were simply brothels with adult women who were going home to their husbands and children after their night of prostitution.

But yeah, the hype about O.U.R. saving children and the involvement of Sean Reyes and the involvement of respected leaders of the Mormon Church will likely shield Ballard from any kind of accountability. Reyes is known to have participated in at least one "operation". I don't think any of the Mormon leaders really knew that it was all a farce, I think they probably believed O.U.R was a valid anti sex trafficking organization.

[RVInit]

Hidden True Crime's latest podcast features discussion of the book Visions of Glory and how that book inspired Tim Ballard and also played a part in Chad and Lori Daybell and Jodi Hildebrandt and Ruby Franke's descent into dark religious zealotry.

Ryan Fisher is her guest for thsi episode. Ryan became involved with O.U.R and became a close confidant of Ballard. He is one of many people who got involved with Tim Ballard and O.U.R and became disillusioned over time as the gaps between the hype regarding Ballard/O.U.R and the realities of Ballard/O.U.R grew deeper and deeper. Many of those, men and women both, have come forward with their stories of what they personally witnessed as far as O.U.R operations and Tim Ballard's behavior in foreign countries.

This episode focuses on the book Visions of Glory, the author of the book, Mormon prepperism, and how this book inspired Ballard's activities with O.U.R. Fisher was a confidant of Ballard's and was privy to the inner workings of O.U.R, the involvement of Elder Ballard and other high powered members of the Mormon Church. I had not known that the author of Visions of Glory was also on the payroll of O.U.R. as some kind of advisor, but I had known that O.U.R was set up right from the start as a vehicle to get Tim Ballard's name out there as a real life American hero. Tim didn't become a hero because O.U.R "saved kids". O.U.R was an organization that was created specificially as a vehicle to spring Tim Ballard onto the scene with a hero story.

[Estiveo]

[RVInit]

Sure. If Trump is elected this will be dismissed as well. These victims are likely taking the federal route because Ballard's bestie is the Attorney General of the State of Utah. Reye even went on "operations" with Ballard, LARPing by his side. The whole thing about Ballard is disgusting. And it's no wonder Trump fell lock, stock, and barrel, for Tim Ballard, elevating him to some special advisory position on human trafficking, when there are people and organizations out there that actually really do the work that Ballard and O.U.R. claimed to be doing.

When these women came forward to O.U.R. human resources department the end result was that Ballard was allowed to resign. Almost to the person, the men who previously had been recruited into O.U.R. and were very close to Ballard have all come out in support of the women, many of them being willing to do so openly. But Ballard has the support and protection of Sean Reyes, Attorney General of Utah.

[noblepa]

Sure. If Trump is elected this will be dismissed as well. These victims are likely taking the federal route because Ballard's bestie is the Attorney General of the State of Utah. Reye even went on "operations" with Ballard, LARPing by his side. The whole thing about Ballard is disgusting. And it's no wonder Trump fell lock, stock, and barrel, for Tim Ballard, elevating him to some special advisory position on human trafficking, when there are people and organizations out there that actually really do the work that Ballard and O.U.R. claimed to be doing.

When these women came forward to O.U.R. human resources department the end result was that Ballard was allowed to resign. Almost to the person, the men who previously had been recruited into O.U.R. and were very close to Ballard have all come out in support of the women, many of them being willing to do so openly. But Ballard has the support and protection of Sean Reyes, Attorney General of Utah.

IANAL, but I don't believe that a president can dismiss a civil lawsuit, especially one in which the government is not a party.

The women are suing OUR and Tim Ballard, not the government or any government official. The Justice Department is not involved, so the Mango Mussilini can not even tell the DOJ to drop the case or anything like that.

Question for the IAALs out there: could he ask the DOJ to intervene in a civil case and try to bring the power of the government to bear in Ballard's favor?

That is not to say that he wouldn't try to do so.

[RVInit]

I wasn't thinking. Yes, this is a civil case, not a criminal case from the DOJ.

So, yeah, attempts by Trump to save his buddy may not be successful, there would be a lot more to it, more people to "convince", including a judge, most likely. So, not as simple as just telling his AG to drop the case.

[northland10]

Sure. If Trump is elected this will be dismissed as well. These victims are likely taking the federal route because Ballard's bestie is the Attorney General of the State of Utah. Reye even went on "operations" with Ballard, LARPing by his side. The whole thing about Ballard is disgusting. And it's no wonder Trump fell lock, stock, and barrel, for Tim Ballard, elevating him to some special advisory position on human trafficking, when there are people and organizations out there that actually really do the work that Ballard and O.U.R. claimed to be doing.

When these women came forward to O.U.R. human resources department the end result was that Ballard was allowed to resign. Almost to the person, the men who previously had been recruited into O.U.R. and were very close to Ballard have all come out in support of the women, many of them being willing to do so openly. But Ballard has the support and protection of Sean Reyes, Attorney General of Utah.

IANAL, but I don't believe that a president can dismiss a civil lawsuit, especially one in which the government is not a party.

The women are suing OUR and Tim Ballard, not the government or any government official. The Justice Department is not involved, so the Mango Mussilini can not even tell the DOJ to drop the case or anything like that.

Question for the IAALs out there: could he ask the DOJ to intervene in a civil case and try to bring the power of the government to bear in Ballard's favor?

That is not to say that he wouldn't try to do so.

IANAL, however

As you say, it is a civil suit where the government is not a party so a president would have no say whatsoever, short of threatening the plaintiffs in other ways. I don't think the DOJ could thread the needle enough to get the courts to grant a motion to intervene and even if they could, they would be hard-pressed to have the entire case dismissed, especially since they have no actual injury. Judges, including many Trump appointees, dislike another branch stepping in their lane.

As for going the federal route, Utah has a civil remedy law for trafficking, but it appears it may be on the new side so the events in questions may predate the law.

That said, I am a bit concerned with the lack of specificity in the body of the complaint. I did only read briefly but there was more about the other bad behavior and really nothing specific about where and when of trafficking. While more, I assume, will come forward, my IANALness finds the initial complaint weak. I thought, as Stern once put it, the bulk of the complaint facts should be within the four corners of the filing. To me, something is missing.

There is not even any specific date of the cause of action mentioned within the complaint, and since there is a 10-year rule, that should be an important part as it provides the court with jurisidiction.

I wonder if this may be too easy to dismiss. Is this more an attempt to get it as far as discovery in hopes what comes out there will spur others to actions?

[RVInit]

I haven't finished reading all of the exhibits, but much of the grooming is shown in exhibits which include dates and times because much of it are text messages. Some of the texts messages are obvious that a sexual encounter took place, you have to notice the dates and times of the messages and also there is reference to things like "I can hardly believe last night". The original suits that were filed in Utah contained much more detail and these are the same women, so not sure why they didn't include the same details in this filing. I think they are trying the federal route because they have no chance in Utah where Ballard is totally protected. So, I guess they found a federal statute they could file against him. But yeah, I was also wondering the same thing, given that the original lawsuits contained all those details - dates, locations, and names of others who were present on those "operations".

[northland10]

I haven't finished reading all of the exhibits, but much of the grooming is shown in exhibits which include dates and times because much of it are text messages. Some of the texts messages are obvious that a sexual encounter took place, you have to notice the dates and times of the messages and also there is reference to things like "I can hardly believe last night". The original suits that were filed in Utah contained much more detail and these are the same women, so not sure why they didn't include the same details in this filing. I think they are trying the federal route because they have no chance in Utah where Ballard is totally protected. So, I guess they found a federal statute they could file against him. But yeah, I was also wondering the same thing, given that the original lawsuits contained all those details - dates, locations, and names of others who were present on those "operations".

They can add things to the appendix, but I think some more detail is safer in the body of the complaint. You don't want to toss it in the kitchen sink, but, IMHO, you need to give the court a strong narrative that provides them what they need to determine that they have jurisdiction and will close off routes to easy dispositive motions. My belief is that you should make it easy on the court and hard on the adversary.

The arguments should not show what you are thinking but what you want the judge to be thinking. Don't give an adversary an opening to run the option.

Every battle is won before it's fought.

[p0rtia]

If fuckhead is elected, there is not a civil court in the land that will not be forced to do his biding, if he turns his attention to it.

[northland10]

The only way he could interfere with this case is to have the DOJ file criminal charges against the civil case defendants (not sure how this would apply to the organizations). That would halt a civil case, and then he would have the DOJ drag its feet.

I'm unsure if the 10-year rule time clock would stop if that happened.

[Dr. Ken]

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https://x.com/AdamHerbets/status/1849646697254879615

Adam Herbets, FOX 13 @AdamHerbets
Tim Ballard's attorney says all of the subpoeanas should be quashed because the records contain "highly sensitive and confidential information belonging not only to Mr. Ballard, but also to individuals and entities who have nothing to do with this case..."
4:58 AM · Oct 25, 2024