Mesa County Colorado - Belinda and Tina's big adventure

[Chilidog]

She's hoping to delay it until after NEXT February, when her saviour will be in the White House and will rescue her from her persecutors.

How's that going to work at the state level?

[raison de arizona]

She's hoping to delay it until after NEXT February, when her saviour will be in the White House and will rescue her from her persecutors.

How's that going to work at the state level?

States don't have rights, especially Colorado. Just ask SCOTUS. Apparently.

[Rolodex]

She has a long way to go to match a local case here. A guy was in jail for 10 years awaiting trial for murder.

His first defense attorney was the father of one of the investigating officers and cross examined him in the preliminary hearing. After refusing a plea deal, his case went through two judges, three prosecutors, four sets of defense lawyers, and nine scheduled trial dates. He finally went to trial and got a life sentence, even though his co-defendant got a trial within 2 years and was acquitted.

But wait, there's more: A new district attorney who had once represented one of the co-defendants was elected in February 2017, requiring the case to be transferred to the attorney general’s office. At that point, the prosecution dropped the death penalty from the case. Finally, on September 19, the trial was again held up amid allegations that some members of the newly empaneled jury of 11 whites and one black may have had improper contact with people connected to the case.

Several years ago, I was called for jury duty. After excusing the folks who can't serve at all, they just take groups alphabetically to create a panel from which the lawyers will select a jury. My group was extra large (like 60 people when they usually get about 30 from which to pick 12). But this particular case was only about sentencing. The person had been found guilty of murder years before. He'd had 5 (FIVE!) former sentencing trials before this one. All of those former adjudications were thrown out for various reasons including improper contact with jurors and racist issues with the DA at the time (several juries in the former sentencing cases had every Black person excused). We were not told this at the time - I found it out later.

We had to fill out lengthy questionnaires at this point (favorite tv shows, view about drugs, lots of stuff). Then we were questioned orally (they ask a question and you raise your hand if it applies to you). It took most of the day so we came back the next morning. Then they wanted to question some of us privately...I was one of those folks. We (the judge, all the lawyers, the defendant, the court reporter) all shuffled into the jury room where they asked me questions. I saw the word "NO" written at the top of my questionnaire, so Idk why they wanted more info. The DA wanted the death penalty and I am against that...and said so in open court and again when they questioned me in private...including wanting to know why (I'm personally against it, and my Christian denomination is against it). At this point I didn't know anything about the case or former sentencing hearings.

Four of us ended up getting excused before they went any further (they still had to choose the 12). We went to pick up our checks to leave and chatted a little. Our little foursome was 1 WM, 1WF, 1BM, 1BF. We were all anti-death penalty. I was kind of sad that out of 60 random people, only 4 could never vote to sentence someone to death. I learned later that this guy was very low IQ, lived in terrible circumstances, was abused his whole life, just a sad story. I do believe he shot and killed the people for which he was convicted, but boy our system is so screwed up.

[keith]

She's hoping to delay it until after NEXT February, when her saviour will be in the White House and will rescue her from her persecutors.

How's that going to work at the state level?

Are you trying to ascribe logicical awareness of jurisdictional boundaries to these rwo light bulbs?

[gshevlin2]

I love the certainty of Trump sycophants that they will be pardoned, despite the conspicuous failure of Trump to pardon sycophants and begging followers before he left office.

[RTH10260]

Apart from missing the finer details about differences between federal and state courts and where impotuses can mingle with.

[RVInit]

I love the certainty of Trump sycophants that they will be pardoned, despite the conspicuous failure of Trump to pardon sycophants and begging followers before he left office.

I think it's highly likely that he will pardon them if he's elected again. He has already stated his intention of becoming a dictator and he will need brownshirts to keep the masses of people living in fear. These people have proven their willingness to commit vicious acts against their fellow Americans. They will become the backbone of his enforcers and they will recruit all of their friends. He will fan their anger and point them in the direction of their "enemies". We are in for pure hell if this pustule gets elected again. And he just might.

[bob]

I think it's highly likely that he will pardon them if he's elected again.

These are state charges; the president has no authority to pardon them.

[Dave from down under]

Dictator on day one can do what he wants..

[much ado]

Trump is all talk and little action. His decision to help these little people will depend on how much use they are to him, which is essentially none. (He'd have to ask the governor anyway.) How much has he helped Rudi? Belinda and Tina will get less.

[pipistrelle]

I think it's highly likely that he will pardon them if he's elected again.

These are state charges; the president has no authority to pardon them.

I was thinking more J6ers.