Drum roll, 5 minute warning: "Please be advised that a verdict has been reached in the above action and will be read in open court at 4:35PM"
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Andy (clerk): 7.1 million... 11 million... punitives: $65 million
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$83.3 million total.
Expect, among other post-verdict motions, that $65M is excessive in relation to the $18.3M for actual damages.
(65/18.3 = 3.55, for the math/legal nerds.)
Expect, among other post-verdict motions, that $65M is excessive in relation to the $18.3M for actual damages.
(65/18.3 = 3.55, for the math/legal nerds.)
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$83.3 million combined says MSNBC.
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Another multimillion dollar judgment!! Hooray for punitives!!!!!!!!! And hooray for the quick verdict turnaround!!!
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I was going to predict $12 M and $50 M. This exceeds that.
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Alina Habba: "But, but I am pretty! How could this happen?"
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“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
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Ditto. I hope things keep getting worse for the shit-gibbon.Reality Check wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:44 pm I was going to predict $12 M and $50 M. This exceeds that.
Like as the waves make towards the pebbled shore,
So do our minutes hasten to their end . . .
So do our minutes hasten to their end . . .
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I hope he regrets ever coming down those escalator steps.
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Too bad Trump left the courthouse before the verdict was read.
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I was thinking that.
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As realist (I think) would say - for completeness: (Inner City Press, who did a fantastic job the entire trial.)
Judge Kaplan: I'm advised the jury has reached a verdict. We will have no outbursts in these proceedings, we will maintain decorum. Bring in the jury.
Jury entering!
Judge Kaplan: Please hand the verdict to Andy... Thank you. Clerk will read the verdict
Andy: id Ms. Carroll prove, by a preponderance of the evidence, that 1. Ms. Carroll suffered more than nominal damages as a result of Mr. Trump’s publication of the June 21 and June 22, 2019 statements? Answer Yes.
Andy (clerk): 7.1 million... 11 million... punitives: $65 million
Judge Kaplan; Members of the jury, there was years ago a respected judge of this court would made it a practice never to thank a jury. Judge Weinfeld thought it was a duty - I think juries should be thanked
Judge Kaplan: If you wish to speak after the verdict - I order you not to disclose the names of any other juror, and I advise you not to disclose your own name.
Judge Kaplan: The transportation arrangements have been made. Enjoy the weekend.
[Jury leaves]
Judge Kaplan: Any other business?
Ms Habba: I would just like to thank the court staff
Judge Kaplan: You're welcome on their behalf. Adjourned.
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Absolutely ridiculous! I fully disagree with both verdicts, and will be appealing this whole Biden Directed Witch Hunt focused on me and the Republican Party. Our Legal System is out of control, and being used as a Political Weapon. They have taken away all First Amendment Rights. THIS IS NOT AMERICA!
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Does he have to post an appeal bond to appeal? Is that a thing?Kendra wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:02 pm https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrum ... 0073262515
Absolutely ridiculous! I fully disagree with both verdicts, and will be appealing this whole Biden Directed Witch Hunt focused on me and the Republican Party. Our Legal System is out of control, and being used as a Political Weapon. They have taken away all First Amendment Rights. THIS IS NOT AMERICA!
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He "fully" disagrees.
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He had to post one for the previous trial where he was also found guilty, trump posted $5.6 million to act as security so I assume in this case he will have to do the same.raison de arizona wrote: ↑Fri Jan 26, 2024 5:06 pm
Does he have to post an appeal bond to appeal? Is that a thing?