E. Jean Carroll v. Donald J. Trump and United States of America (poll added!)

[Suranis]

Whoever is the latest one to be noticed. He is a reactor, not an actor.

[RTH10260]

MTN Ben Meiselas looks at the former guys "truthing"

[MN-Skeptic]

Ron Filipkowski
@RonFilipkowski

Trump made 47 social media posts today about E. Jean Carroll.

So far.

Good grief.

[much ado]

I think a restraining order against Trump, prohibiting him from posting, publishing, or speaking in public about Carroll, would be a great idea.

Is such a restraining order legally possible?

Is there any possibility he could comply?

[RTH10260]

His best bet is that the trial will be delayed cause plaintiff files an amended complaint including his recent "truths"

[Dave from down under]

His best bet is that the trial will be delayed cause plaintiff files an amended complaint including his recent "truths"

Carol III

[sugar magnolia]

His best bet is that the trial will be delayed cause plaintiff files an amended complaint including his recent "truths"

Carol III

At this rate it might be Carroll XCIV soon.

[Ben-Prime]

His best bet is that the trial will be delayed cause plaintiff files an amended complaint including his recent "truths"

Carol III

At this rate it might be Carroll XCIV soon.

And that's not even counting the brief fork of Anti-Carrolls who live in Avignon.

[Suranis]

[jcolvin2]

And that's not even counting the brief fork of Anti-Carrolls who live in Avignon.

Or the Carroll who moved to Annecy, i.e., the Carroll of the Bells.

[raison de arizona]

How sad. Now he just needs to be rejected by SCOTUS as well and we can move this along.

[RTH10260]

how dare they deny a president

[MN-Skeptic]

Adam Klasfeld
@KlasfeldReports
New

Trump's lawyers are BARRED from suggesting he didn't sexually abuse E. Jean Carroll at the second trial, where liability has been established.

They also can't raise these topics.

The Access Hollywood tape will come in.

Background - https://themessenger.com/politics/trump ... ation-case

Link to the ruling - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .252.0.pdf

[Rolodex]

Whoa. He's gonna go nuts when someone tells him this. I guess he's distracted with the immunity hearing this morning.

[RTH10260]

Notorious ‘Access Hollywood’ tape to be shown at Trump’s defamation trial damages phase next week

BY LARRY NEUMEISTER
Updated 1:15 AM CET, January 10, 2024

NEW YORK (AP) — The notorious 2005 “Access Hollywood” video in which Donald Trump was caught on a hot mic speaking disparagingly about women over a decade before he became president can be shown to jurors deciding what he owes a columnist he sexually abused and then defamed, a judge ruled Tuesday, setting ground rules for a trial next week.

U.S. District Judge Lewis A. Kaplan in a written order narrowed what lawyers can introduce at the trial beginning Jan. 16, but he allowed the video to be shown. The video was seen by a jury that in May concluded that Trump sexually abused E. Jean Carroll in a luxury department store in 1996 and defamed her in 2022. It awarded $5 million in damages.

In the tape, Trump was heard bragging about kissing, groping and trying to have sex with women who were not his wife as he waited to make a cameo appearance on a soap opera in 2005. In a statement after the tape emerged shortly before the November 2016 presidential election, Trump dismissed it as “locker room banter” and “a private conversation.”



https://apnews.com/article/trump-carrol ... aae6a5801c

[Kendra]

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.html

Former President Donald Trump said Thursday he would attend the E. Jean Carroll defamation trial that is set to begin next week.

“Yeah, I’m going to go to it and I’m going to explain I don’t know who the hell she is, I have no idea,” Trump told reporters in response to a question by CNN’s Kristen Holmes.

Trump held a brief media appearance Thursday afternoon as the New York attorney general's office presented closing arguments in the civil fraud trial.

A federal judge has already ruled that the jury hearing Carroll’s defamation lawsuit will only need to decide how much money Trump will have to pay her after the judge found the former president was liable for making defamatory statements.

Carroll, a former magazine columnist, alleged Trump raped her in a Bergdorf Goodman department store in the mid-1990s and then defamed her when he denied her claim.

In May, after a separate two-week trial, a jury found Trump sexually abused Carroll and defamed her when he said in 2022 that he didn’t rape her, didn’t know her and that she wasn’t his “type.”

In that case, the jury awarded Carroll $5 million in damages.

[raison de arizona]

<- tfg lawyers

Trump delivers another rant about E. Jean Carroll that may be cited in a future lawsuit

[raison de arizona]

Letter from lawyer Kaplan to Judge Kaplan regarding tfg's desire to "sow chaos" in latest upcoming Carroll hearing.
https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/ ... -11224.pdf

[W. Kevin Vicklund]

Note that included as an attachment is the transcript of Trump's closing testimony in the fraud trial.

[raison de arizona]

Note that included as an attachment is the transcript of Trump's closing testimony in the fraud trial.

Yes, easter egg!

► Show Spoiler

MR. KISE: Again, they just put all the weight on
12 my shoulders and then decided to travel on.
13 I would ask Your Honor, I think I would ask you
14 reconsider, allow President Trump to address the Court for
15 two or three minutes. The reason that I didn't feel that
16 your restrictions were appropriate because, frankly, your
17 restrictions stated in the email went beyond what was
18 required under the law. They do have ambiguities. None of
19 us today have commented on anything outside the appropriate
20 bounds of closing argument. I don't believe President
21 Trump will either. I think, under the circumstances you
22 should hear from him.
23 All these people back here certainly want to hear
24 from him, and I think as you say in your own email, you
25 would benefit from hearing everything. There is no one
1 person more impacted by the decision you're going to make
2 than President Trump here. So I would ask that the Court
3 allow him to speak now briefly now and address the Court
4 and present his views to you.

5 THE COURT: Well, this is not how it should have
6 been done.
7 Mr. Trump, let me address you directly and
8 Mr. Kise at the same time. If I let you speak for five
9 minutes, I think that's what I will do, if you promise to
10 just comment on the law and facts, application of one to
11 the other and not go outside of that?
12 Mr. Kise, is that reasonable?

13 PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, I think, your Honor, tha
14 this case goes outside of just the facts.
15 The facts are that the financial statements were
16 perfect. That there was no witnesses against us. The
17 banks got all their money paid back. They were great
18 loans. The banks are happy as can be.
19 I mentioned the name Zurich, and Zurich, one of
20 the most prestigious property and most prestigious
21 insurance company in the world. They represent us right
22 now. Supposed somebody said we defrauded them? I spoke to
23 an executive at Zurich and they said: You didn't defraud
24 us. If you defrauded us, we wouldn't be representing --
25 they represent us right now. They weren't defrauded.
1 There wasn't one witness against us, and this
2 does go outside of the bounds of what we're talking about.
3 This is a political witch hunt that was set aside by --
4 should be set aside. We should receive damages for what
5 we've gone through, for what they've taken this company
6 through. We have millions pages of documents and they
7 don't have one document. They have nothing. They do have
8 a triplex where they made a mistake and they corrected it
9 immediately when it was made, and it was di-minimus,
10 because the amount of the money they're talking about
11 compared to the billions of dollars of net worth is
12 irrelevant. It's virtually irrelevant. It's a very small
13 number. It was a mistake that was corrected. That's the
14 only thing I ever read in the papers, their triplex. They
15 made a mistake, it was an honest mistake, some broker told
16 them 30 because he took -- the floors are approximately
17 10,000 feet, they heard, as you say, triplex, and they
18 multiplied times three.
19 Something like that can happen. When they found
20 it was the mistake, they immediately corrected it. I'm not
21 so sure that the dollar amount would have been so far off,
22 frankly, if you want to know, whatever the amount was. It
23 was around the 250 number. But it's a -- it's a very
24 small, it's a very small number.
25 But when you say don't go outside of these
1 things, we have a situation where I'm an innocent man.
2 I've been persecuted by somebody running for office, and I
3 think you have to go outside the bounds, because people,
4 and you could read all the articles you want to read, but
5 you look at the legal prognosticators, the legal scholars
6 talking about this case, they find it disgraceful. The
7 first time for a reason like this where there's -- you've
8 ever used this statute. This statute is viscous. It
9 doesn't give me a jury. It takes away all my rights. And
10 it is, in fact, a statute used for consumer fraud. This is
11 not consumer fraud. This is no fraud. This is a fraud on
12 me.
13 What's happened here, sir, is a fraud on me. You
14 know, other companies leave, they did it with Exxon. Exxon
15 pays billions of dollars in taxes and they're now paying to
16 Texas, and I went out and forced them that they want to
17 make sure I'm never --
18 I just added up the other day the amount of taxes
19 I've paid over the amount of the period that these people
20 say, which, by the way, is absolutely limited by the
21 Statute of Limitations. We won that case in the Court of
22 Appeals. But I said how much tax have I paid over this?
23 It's close the $300 million in tax. They don't want me
24 anymore. They don't want me here. I have done a lot of
25 great things. I have built buildings all over the City.
1 I've never had a problem. All of a sudden I have a
2 problem. I guess because I ran for office I have a problem
3 because they want to make sure that I don't win again, that
4 this is partially election interference. But, in
5 particular, the person in the room right now hates Trump
6 and uses Trump to get elected. And if I'm not allowed to
7 talk about that, I think it really is a disservice because
8 that is a very big part of this case. I would say that's
9 100 percent.
10 Without all of that, Your Honor, with all of
11 these days and months and years and millions and millions
12 pages, big company, they found nothing. And now she comes
13 in and says, we want to make a $250 million fine, $370
14 million. For what? I borrowed money from the bank, much
15 smaller than the number you are talking about, much smaller
16 than 370. One of the reasons I borrowed money is the bank
17 wanted me to. That's how they make money. The bank said
18 you should actually have -- the head of Deutsche Bank came
19 to see me -- I know this is boring for you.

20 THE COURT: One minute, Mr. Trump.

21 PRESIDENT TRUMP: You have your own agenda, I can
22 certainly understand that. You can't listen for more than
23 one minute. This has been a persecution of somebody that's
24 done a good job in New York.

25 THE COURT: Mr. Kise, please control your client.
1 By the way, you said you never had a problem;
2 haven't you been sued before?

3 PRESIDENT TRUMP: I have been sued. Sure, I've
4 been sued.

5 THE COURT: Isn't that a problem?

6 PRESIDENT TRUMP: Most suits, but this is a suit
7 that it seems I should have won many times. We've asked
8 for directed verdict almost every time a witness took the
9 stand. We've asked for a directed verdict and we were
10 immediately shut down.
11 Your Honor, look, I did nothing wrong. They
12 should pay me for what we had to go through, what they have
13 done to me reputationally and everything else. We have a
14 great company. It's a successful company, a liquid
15 company, like a lot of real estate companies are.
16 We sell the best assets in the world, and she
17 sued me to try to get publicity to run for office, and that
18 includes running for governor, where she failed.

19 THE COURT: It's 1:00 o'clock. Mr. Kise, we have
20 to go anyway, the court officers are looking at me.
21 Thank you, Mr. Trump.

22 PRESIDENT TRUMP: Thank you.

23 THE COURT: See you all at 2:15.

[Dave from down under]

Thank you for that link!

[Rolodex]

Do we know who the attorney for trump is in this Carroll trial?

[raison de arizona]

Do we know who the attorney for trump is in this Carroll trial?

I dunno who the full team is, but Alina Habba is part of it.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/ ... ation-suit

[Rolodex]

Do we know who the attorney for trump is in this Carroll trial?

I dunno who the full team is, but Alina Habba is part of it.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/12/ ... ation-suit

Hoo boy. Wonder if they told trump about the parameters Robbie Kaplan is asking for. They don't seem unreasonable to me, a not-lawyer, esp in light of the fact everyone knows what a crybaby trump is. He won't follow the rules and it way past time that he learns that, finally, yes, the rules to apply to him.

He and Carroll's old friends (whom she told about the rape at the time) are the only 2 defense witnesses on their list. I haven't heard who the plantiff's attorney will call. Should be a good one to follow next week!

[New Turtle]

If only they could just sit down at a table over coffee and diet cokes and talk, they wouldn't need all this court stuff.