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bob wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:14 pm
Rolodex wrote: Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:09 pm I guess it's just boilerplate Hail Mary stuff.
Basically, yes. Most likely done so the issues later can be raised in a federal habeas corpus petition.
Surprised it got that far.
Literally any loser can file in SCOTUS. This was just a routine denial of one of the approximately 10,000 cert. petitions SCOTUS receives annually.
Ah. I had not paid any attention to this, so when the announcement was made of its failure I thought maybe it was more than this. thanks!
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Ex-officer Derek Chauvin, convicted in George Floyd’s killing, stabbed in prison, AP source says

https://apnews.com/article/derek-chauvi ... 2dc40ef7ea
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poplove wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:29 pm Ex-officer Derek Chauvin, convicted in George Floyd’s killing, stabbed in prison, AP source says

https://apnews.com/article/derek-chauvi ... 2dc40ef7ea
Shouldn't happen — but difficult to care. :shrug:
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That's a much nicer way of saying what I wanted to say.
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Not that I approve, but Happy Shanksgiving was trending on twitter just after the incident yesterday.
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poplove wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:29 pm Ex-officer Derek Chauvin, convicted in George Floyd’s killing, stabbed in prison, AP source says

https://apnews.com/article/derek-chauvi ... 2dc40ef7ea
Chauvin OD’d on Fentanyl. Stabbing is an approved correctional officer technique. Steven Crowder let someone stab him and it had no effect.

Hey I can make up shit too. ;)
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I have nothing for Chauvin but prisoners should be safe.
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Minnesota’s attorney general on Saturday denounced a prison attack on Derek Chauvin, saying the former Minneapolis police officer convicted of murdering George Floyd should be able to serve his sentence without fear of violence.
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pipistrelle wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:15 pm I have nothing for Chauvin but prisoners should be safe.
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Minnesota’s attorney general on Saturday denounced a prison attack on Derek Chauvin, saying the former Minneapolis police officer convicted of murdering George Floyd should be able to serve his sentence without fear of violence.
George Floyd should have been able to go out without fear of violence, too.
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Kriselda Gray wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:08 pm
pipistrelle wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:15 pm I have nothing for Chauvin but prisoners should be safe.
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) — Minnesota’s attorney general on Saturday denounced a prison attack on Derek Chauvin, saying the former Minneapolis police officer convicted of murdering George Floyd should be able to serve his sentence without fear of violence.
George Floyd should have been able to go out without fear of violence, too.
Not arguing that, but violence in prison is a disgrace.
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pipistrelle wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:39 pm :snippity:
Not arguing that, but violence in prison is a disgrace.
:confuzzled: You think there should be a selection panel and rigorous interviews to ensure that only well-behaved convicts are permitted to reside in prisons? No riff-raff!
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pipistrelle wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:39 pm
Kriselda Gray wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:08 pm
pipistrelle wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:15 pm I have nothing for Chauvin but prisoners should be safe.

George Floyd should have been able to go out without fear of violence, too.
Not arguing that, but violence in prison is a disgrace.
I agree that violence in prison is a serious issue. My response, though, was actually reacting more to what the AG said in the article. His phrasing just rubbed me the wrong way.
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pipistrelle wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 8:39 pm
Kriselda Gray wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 7:08 pm
pipistrelle wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:15 pm I have nothing for Chauvin but prisoners should be safe.

George Floyd should have been able to go out without fear of violence, too.
Not arguing that, but violence in prison is a disgrace.
Agreed. Equally disgraceful are the sly, nudge nudge, wink wink comments approving of sexual assault that one sees. Even, to our shame, on here on rare occasions.
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People do tend to forget that prisoners are wards of the state in the same way orphans at state-run orphanages are, and yet we let one set of wards of the state be abused in ways we would not countenance for the other. There's a tendency to forget that the 'social contract' by which we take people prisoner and lock them away for punishment and (one hopes) rehabilitation includes the bargain that the state *will* do its level best to keep them alive, healthy, and safe during the time in which we take away their freedom. It's the same attitude (though in a darker vein) that says that teachers (for example) sign up for shitty conditions when they sign up for their jobs, forgetting that the social contract works both ways.
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If he survives, they will probably have to move him to a supermax facility where they don't ever come out of the cell more than 1 at a time.
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I motion that the prison guards take shifts sitting on him to keep him safe. 24/7/365
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Ben: of course there's that duty of care but prisons are packed with bad people so bad events are almost inevitable absent an inhumane regime of segregation and lockdown.

I think Fogfolk understand and respect that duty of care … but that doesn't block that tingle of schadenfreude when an evildoer is fed his karmic desserts.

We are decent but we aren't angels. Chauvin deserves and gets no sympathy, murdering asshole that he is. Even though it shouldn't happen.
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Sam the Centipede wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:57 am Ben: of course there's that duty of care but prisons are packed with bad people so bad events are almost inevitable absent an inhumane regime of segregation and lockdown.

I think Fogfolk understand and respect that duty of care … but that doesn't block that tingle of schadenfreude when an evildoer is fed his karmic desserts.

We are decent but we aren't angels. Chauvin deserves and gets no sympathy, murdering asshole that he is. Even though it shouldn't happen.
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Sam the Centipede wrote: Sun Nov 26, 2023 11:57 am Ben: of course there's that duty of care but prisons are packed with bad people so bad events are almost inevitable absent an inhumane regime of segregation and lockdown.

I think Fogfolk understand and respect that duty of care … but that doesn't block that tingle of schadenfreude when an evildoer is fed his karmic desserts.

We are decent but we aren't angels. Chauvin deserves and gets no sympathy, murdering asshole that he is. Even though it shouldn't happen.
Yes.
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DrIrvingFinegarten wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:07 pm
poplove wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:29 pm Ex-officer Derek Chauvin, convicted in George Floyd’s killing, stabbed in prison, AP source says

https://apnews.com/article/derek-chauvi ... 2dc40ef7ea
Chauvin OD’d on Fentanyl. Stabbing is an approved correctional officer technique. Steven Crowder let someone stab him and it had no effect.

Hey I can make up shit too. ;)
omg

we have another "piece of shit"defender here
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sad-cafe wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:32 am
DrIrvingFinegarten wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:07 pm
poplove wrote: Fri Nov 24, 2023 9:29 pm Ex-officer Derek Chauvin, convicted in George Floyd’s killing, stabbed in prison, AP source says

https://apnews.com/article/derek-chauvi ... 2dc40ef7ea
Chauvin OD’d on Fentanyl. Stabbing is an approved correctional officer technique. Steven Crowder let someone stab him and it had no effect.

Hey I can make up shit too. ;)
omg

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See, I read this as clear sarcasm -- DIF is saying "if they can make up all this crap to excuse Floyd's death, I'll go over the top on excusing Chauvin's stabbing." Or did I overthink this?
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Ben-Prime wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 6:16 pm
sad-cafe wrote: Sat Dec 02, 2023 10:32 am
DrIrvingFinegarten wrote: Sat Nov 25, 2023 3:07 pm

Chauvin OD’d on Fentanyl. Stabbing is an approved correctional officer technique. Steven Crowder let someone stab him and it had no effect.

Hey I can make up shit too. ;)
omg

we have another "piece of shit"defender here
See, I read this as clear sarcasm -- DIF is saying "if they can make up all this crap to excuse Floyd's death, I'll go over the top on excusing Chauvin's stabbing." Or did I overthink this?
That's exactly it.
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