Donald J. Trump 2024

[optimusprime]

t***p is promising just about everything. Never saw a bigger man trying to bring smoke but has no fire

[Suranis]

Why would he need brownshirts when the Military will see how brilliant he is and just do as he says?

He wants to be seen as the greatest President ever. Having an army of Low Class losers is not in the game plan of being the greatest ever.

Stop thinking of him as being rational. He brain is filled with the shame of knowing he is not any good at anything apart from grifting, the fear of people finding out that he is a loser, desperation to always be the alpha male. If he was rational like DeSantis he might actually be more dangerous.

If he was actually Rational he would have climbed on a golf cart and lead all those people to the Capitol building. But he wasn't. He needed to keep a little bit of distance between him and the Mob in case he lost and was seen as a Loser.

He wanted to be there alright but He thought that the Secret Service would just drive him there so he could walk in when the mob had smashed his way in and Won and he could lord it over Nancy and be the rescuer. But the Secret Service wouldn't do it.

And the Brownshirts were Mussolini gangs as he was fighting his way up to power. You don't get to form brown shirts when you are already President. If you want to see those look more to the death squads formed by South American Dictators, which generally came from the police. Well Trained people. You don't rely on a mob of Ex Convicts if you are already in power. It reflects badly on you.

[Reddog]

If he gets elected he has one big reason to pardon them. They will become the basis of his MAGA Brown Shirt brigade. And they will have a great time cracking heads of RINOs. LGBTQ+, Democrats, Never Trumpers, and anyone else whose head the Orange Pus Bag thinks need cracking.

Exactly.

Yep, exactly what I’ve been thinking. Nearly posted earlier.
Also, they will be more emboldened. As long as they only broke federal laws, there would be no consequences. There are a few governors that could issue pardons also.

[Reddog]

One other point that’s been bothering me. Couldn’t a promise of pardons be considered “or giving aid or comfort to the enemies thereof”?

[Volkonski]

Mercury News :press:
@mercnews@press.coop
Trump will skip second Republican primary debate

His prime-time remarks will serve as counterprogramming to the September 27 debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley.

[Gregg]

Weasel words. He could pardon them.

He's gonna be more in need of a Pardon for himself by then.

And ain't no one in The Biden Administration gonna be in the mood for that.

[Frater I*I]

If he gets elected he has one big reason to pardon them. They will become the basis of his MAGA Brown Shirt brigade. And they will have a great time cracking heads of RINOs. LGBTQ+, Democrats, Never Trumpers, and anyone else whose head the Orange Pus Bag thinks need cracking.

As usual you are right....


I fear that our second civil war is on the horizon....

[raison de arizona]

So it appears his cunning plan is to name the task force as soon as he wins the election, so's he can hand out pardons and commutations on "Day One."

Uhhhh, he won't be president the "moment he's elected." That takes a few weeks.

Does he need to be president to name a special task force to review convictions? Doesn’t seem like it would necessarily require any special powers.

"Appoint a special task force" is politician-speak for accomplish-nothing gestures intended only to appease constituents.

WATCH: Trump Vows To Pardon All Pro-Life Advocates And Political Prisoners On Day One In Office

On Friday, leading 2024 presidential candidate and 45th President Donald Trump vowed to pardon or commute the sentences of pro-life advocates and all political prisoners who have been unfairly targeted by President Joe Biden’s administration on the first day of his second term.

“Under [President Joe] Biden, others are being sentenced to 10, 15, and even 20 years in prison for retribution for their political beliefs, while Antifa and other groups burn-down cities like Portland, like Minneapolis. … They kill people, they loot, they plunder, and they go free,” Trump said to the 2023 Pray Vote Stand Summit.

“To reverse these cruel travesties of justice, tonight I’m announcing that the moment I win the election, I will appoint a special task force to rapidly review the cases of every political prisoner who’s been unjustly persecuted by the Biden administration … so that I can study the situation very quickly and sign their pardons or commutations on Day One,” Trump added.

“Never again will the federal government be used to target religious believers,” Trump continued.

https://dcenquirer.com/trump-vows-to-pa ... in-office/

[pipistrelle]

It’s too bad that Minneapolis and Portland are no more.

[raison de arizona]

tfg is counter-programming the second Republican debate with a visit to union auto workers in Detriot. The Union has a few words about that.

[AndyinPA]

[Kendra]

Wouldn't it be nice if hardly any of the workers showed up?

[raison de arizona]

Wouldn't it be nice if hardly any of the workers showed up?

What would happen if tfg threw a rally and no one showed up?

Paid actors and lies. It would be yuge in his mind.

[Suranis]

He wouldn't come out on stage and would deny there had been a rally planned. That's pretty much what he always does when not enough people turn up.

[Gregg]

No venue announced yet and count on this, there aren't many places outside of The District of Columbia where Trump is as unpopular as Detroit.

He's who he is more or less out in Novi or Livonia (the statistically whitest city in the USA) but if he showed up downtown on Hart Plaza he might be in physical danger.

Detroit can be a rough place.

[Frater I*I]

Detroit can be a rough place.

I've lived there I can attest to this...when I lived there, you could head in downtown and see multi-million dollar skyscrapers with multiple windows busted out...lookin like a building from some post-apocalyptic movie...not sure how it looks today...


However I can tell you, that while you'd see all kinds of trash on the street, you would never find one bottle or can on them....

[somerset]

No venue announced yet and count on this, there aren't many places outside of The District of Columbia where Trump is as unpopular as Detroit.

He's who he is more or less out in Novi or Livonia (the statistically whitest city in the USA) but if he showed up downtown on Hart Plaza he might be in physical danger.

Detroit can be a rough place.

Off Topic

My employer has been making some noise about transferring a few of us Silicon Valley folk to Novi. I've been less than enthusiastic about the idea

[Flatpoint High]

“Never again will the federal government be used to target religious believers,” Trump continued.

https://dcenquirer.com/trump-vows-to-pa ... in-office/

Unless of course, they are Jewish

[p0rtia]

Muslim is the religion that came first to my mind.

But, yeah, any religion that isn't Evangelical Christian.

Plus Atheists.

[pipistrelle]

“Never again will the federal government be used to target religious believers,” Trump continued.

https://dcenquirer.com/trump-vows-to-pa ... in-office/

Unless of course, they are Jewish

Muslim, et al. Non-white Christians, such as African American, Middle Eastern, Asian, and Native Christians, also.

[Suranis]

Sorry to be THAT GUY again and points out the Social Media version of reality is wrong, but the actual evidence is that Trumps support among people who don't attend religious services very much is very strong, and the Evangelical Side of his support is fading.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... p-00113565

Former President Donald Trump has made a number of statements in recent months that might have driven a wedge between his campaign and religious voters. In April, Trump stated that he believed abortion should be regulated at the state level, with little interference from the federal government. At a town hall in June, Trump spoke of abortion in crass, deal-making terms: “What I’ll do is negotiate so people are happy.”

These statements have been met with strong backlash from Susan B. Anthony Pro-Life America, the anti-abortion group that described Trump’s comments on a federal ban as a “morally indefensible position for a self-proclaimed pro-life presidential candidate.” The dustups suggest Trump’s strong support among white evangelicals might be at risk.

But it may not matter. He can afford some erosion of his support from evangelicals. That’s because Trump’s real base of support in the 2016 primary contest came from a rising group in the GOP whose impact has been largely unnoticed: Republicans who hardly ever darken the door of a church, synagogue or mosque.

I am a quantitative scholar of American religion and politics and have been making thousands of graphs about both subjects over the last several years. The data show that the former president’s support among this low-attender group is growing, which means that in the short term, even if Trump does alienate some religiously devout members of the religious right, he remains well positioned to secure the nomination.

The bottom line is that Trump is less dependent on the evangelical vote than is commonly assumed. And the consequences might be greater than that in the long run. The rising number of Republicans who rarely attend religious service will have long-term effects on the GOP that extend beyond the abortion debate, affecting everything from the types of candidates who run to the rhetoric they use to the kinds of issues they focus on.

Back in 2016, Trump ran away with the Republican nomination despite a crowded field of candidates, many of whom had real religious bona fides. Texas Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), a member of a Southern Baptist Church in Houston, often quoted scripture during his stump speech. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) tweeted a Bible verse a day. Yet, despite lack of any religious credibility, Trump won half of the votes of Republicans who attended religious services weekly in 2016, while Cruz only got only 30 percent of their votes and Rubio earned 11 percent.

Trump’s sizable margin of victory among these low attenders yielded a tremendous number of voters. In 2016, 39 percent of all Republican voters attended church less than once a year. In comparison, just 36 percent said that they attended religious services at least once a week.

Low attending Republicans remain a crucial voting bloc for any candidate who wants to be viable during the 2024 primary process and beyond. And their numbers are growing: 44% percent of Republicans attended less than once a year in late 2022, an increase of five points since Trump’s first bid for the White House in 2016.

Over the same period, the percentage of frequent churchgoers has been in decline. In 2008, 44 percent of Republicans reported that they were in church at least once per week. By 2022, that number had slipped to just 35 percent. In comparison, the share of Democrats who attended weekly only declined five percentage points (23 percent to 18 percent) during the same time period.

In other words, the grip that the religious right has on the modern Republican Party is weakening with every election cycle. To survive, the modern Republican Party will have to come to grips with the fact that while many of their voters are people of faith, a growing share (especially among younger Republicans) do not have such deep ties to a religious tradition. Trump’s position on abortion, whether he knows it or not, may actually be the most politically viable one as the composition of the GOP continues to shift toward non-religious Republicans. This was echoed in the sentiments of one voter in Iowa who recently stated, “Personally, if I could snap my fingers, it would not be allowed at all. But I have to be realistic.”

Another area where Trump could moderate and pick up votes is the issue of federal marijuana legalization. In 2020, his administration reiterated their position that it should remain illegal at the federal level. However, polling data says that only half of evangelicals and forty percent of Catholics think that marijuana should remain illegal. His gains among low attending and non-religious Republicans, who largely support legalization, would easily make up for these small losses among religious conservatives.

The grip that the religious right has on the modern Republican Party is weakening with every election cycle. | Jim West/Alamy

Changing demographics and rising secularization also mean the GOP as a whole will need to find ways to extend their influence to non-Christians, non-believers and never-attenders. Despite his otherwise polarizing effect, Trump has managed to find some success in making the Republican coalition bigger and more religiously diverse.

Compare his performance to John McCain’s 12 years earlier. When McCain ran against former President Barack Obama in 2008, only 10 percent of his voters said that they never attended religious services. When Trump ran for reelection in 2020, 18 percent of his supporters were never attenders. Another 22 percent described their religious attendance as “seldom.”

Someone like Trump, who has a reasonable level of support among conservative Christians but who also can appeal to those Republican voters who have a limited attachment to religion, is in some ways an ideal primary candidate for the changing composition of the GOP.

Trump can stand to lose the support of some white evangelicals and even traditional Catholics. That’s because he can make up the difference among the swelling ranks of non-religious Republicans.

[Flatpoint High]

“Never again will the federal government be used to target religious believers,” Trump continued.

https://dcenquirer.com/trump-vows-to-pa ... in-office/

Unless of course, they are Jewish

Muslim, et al. Non-white Christians, such as African American, Middle Eastern, Asian, and Native Christians, also.

he's been specifically targeting us Jews. consider his "Happy New Year, Watch yer Jew Step."

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[noblepa]

he's been specifically targeting us Jews. consider his "Happy New Year, Watch yer Jew Step."
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Are we even sure that this was produced by the Trump campaign itself? It doesn't read (at least to me) like something he or his inner circle would post. They might THINK it, but they wouldn't say it in quite so blatant terms.

I've never heard him call anyone "sheep". Perhaps I just missed it.

To me, it reads like something one of the openly antisemitic, racist groups that support him might write.

Or perhaps, in his descent into dementia and insanity, he is letting his inner demons speak.

[Suranis]

Also, the date on it is 2020. It was done for the last election. Or at least the main part was, the top might be new.

[raison de arizona]

I can personally verify that tfg posted that meme to Truth in the last few days.

FWIW.

The post is still up as of now: https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrum ... 1216078581