INDICTED (INDICATED) #3 USA v Donald Trump - Judge Tanya Chutkan - #J6 Election Interference, Fake Electors - Jack Smith

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https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/poli ... tive-order
A federal judge issued a ruling ordering Donald Trump to respond to a protective order filed by the Justice Department that would block the former president from sharing details of evidence from his Jan. 6 criminal case proceedings.

In a court order filed Saturday afternoon, Judge Tanya Chutkan ruled Trump’s legal team must respond to the special counsel’s motion by Monday at 5 p.m.

The order comes after the DOJ issued a court filing at about 10 p.m. on Friday, calling attention to a message Trump posted on his Truth Social account that prosecutors say raises concerns the former president may improperly share details about his latest criminal proceedings
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Trump’s lawyers are now asking for the judge to extend their deadline to file a response to the motion for protective order from Monday to Aug 10.

UPDATE: DOJ urges Chutkan to deny Trump’s request for an extension.

“The government wants to provide discovery to the defendant … The defendant is standing in the way.”
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Thank the roll of the die that he didn't get Trevor McFadden.
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My favorite part of Blanche's filing is "A brief extension would give the parties time to meaningfully confer--and potentially resolve--the dispute."

Dispute?

Turley is calling it a "mistake".

Uh huh.

BTW, what a wordy, pretentious and dismissive filing.
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Any excuse to ask for a delay.
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NYT says Co-Conspirator 6 is Ephsteyn. I'm convinced.
The indictment of former President Donald J. Trump in connection with his efforts to retain power after his 2020 election loss left a number of unanswered questions, among them: Who is Co-Conspirator 6?

The indictment asserted that six people aided Mr. Trump’s schemes to remain in office. It did not name any of them, but most were reasonably easy to identify through details contained in the indictment, like Rudolph W. Giuliani, the former New York mayor and lawyer for Mr. Trump (Co-Conspirator 1), and John Eastman, the lawyer behind the idea that Vice President Mike Pence could block or delay certification of Mr. Trump’s loss on Jan. 6 (Co-Conspirator 2).

Co-Conspirator 6 was more of a mystery. Identified by the indictment as “a political consultant who helped implement a plan to submit fraudulent slates of presidential electors to obstruct the certification proceeding,” the person could have been a number of figures in Mr. Trump’s orbit.

But a close look at the indictment and a review of messages among people working with Mr. Trump’s team provides a strong clue. An email from December 2020 from Boris Epshteyn, a strategic adviser to the Trump campaign in 2020, to Mr. Giuliani matches a description in the indictment of an interaction between Co-Conspirator 6 and Mr. Giuliani, whose lawyer has confirmed that he is Co-Conspirator 1.

The email, sent on Dec. 7, 2020, and reviewed by The New York Times, was from Mr. Epshteyn to Mr. Giuliani and Mr. Giuliani’s son, Andrew, and had the subject line, “Attorneys for Electors Memo.” It says, “Dear Mayor, as discussed, below are the attorneys I would recommend for the memo on choosing electors,” and it goes on to identify lawyers in seven states.

Paragraph 57 of the indictment says that Co-Conspirator 1, Mr. Giuliani, “spoke with Co-Conspirator 6 regarding attorneys who could assist in the fraudulent elector effort in the targeted states” and received an email from Co-Conspirator 6 “identifying attorneys in Arizona, Georgia, Michigan, Nevada, New Mexico, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin.”

Those are the seven states in the email that Mr. Epshteyn sent to Mr. Giuliani and that was reviewed by The Times. The existence of the email from Mr. Epshteyn does not eliminate the possibility that someone else sent Mr. Giuliani a similar note.
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Don't spend your time whining for an extension and then go on the teevee and whine some more.

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It is like he wants to be remanded.
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I think I'm lovin' this Judge.
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neonzx wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 7:06 pm I think I'm lovin' this Judge.
Me too. Glenn Kirschner has been on MSNBC a couple of times since the judge assignment came down, and he's worked with her a lot in the years when she was a public defender and he was a prosecutor. He calls her a formidable opponent, can't say enough good about her, she'll be very fair, but tough and won't stand for their BS. :boxing:
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Now the former guy is threatening Mike Pence? A person who will surely be on the top of potential whitnesses on the J6 event?
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Have we played the Who is Co-Conspirator #6 guessing game yet?

I’m gonna go way out and take Tom Fiton.
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RTH10260 wrote: Sat Aug 05, 2023 8:22 pm Now the former guy is threatening Mike Pence? A person who will surely be on the top of potential whitnesses on the J6 event?
Well, we will have to see if Mother approves... will there be females in the room? :think:
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Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

NO WAY I CAN GET A FAIR TRIAL, OR EVEN CLOSE TO A FAIR TRIAL, IN WASHINGTON, D.C. THERE ARE MANY REASONS FOR THIS, BUT JUST ONE IS THAT I AM CALLING FOR A FEDERAL TAKEOVER OF THIS FILTHY AND CRIME RIDDEN EMBARRASSMENT TO OUR NATION, WHERE MURDERS HAVE JUST SHATTERED THE ALL TIME RECORD, OTHER VIOLENT CRIMES HAVE NEVER NEEN WORSE, AND TOURISTS HAVE FLED. THE FEDERAL TAKEOVER IS VERY UNPOPULAR WITH POTENTIAL AREA JURORS, BUT NECESSARY FOR SAFETY, GREATNESS, & FOR ALL THE WORLD TO SEE!
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He's calling for DC statehood, right?
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Wouldn't calling for an invasion of the place where they live be classed as interfering with potential Jury members?
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Trump shouldn’t bank on moving his 2020 election case out of D.C.
Other Jan. 6 defendants have tried and failed to avoid prosecution in Washington. The rejections bode poorly for any such Trump motion.

Aug. 3, 2023, 9:48 PM CEST
By Jordan Rubin

One of Donald Trump’s lawyers, John Lauro, said he wants to transfer the 2020 election case out of Washington. Trump echoed the sentiment on his social media site, expressing hope that his prosecution will be “moved to an impartial Venue, such as the politically unbiased nearby State of West Virginia! IMPOSSIBLE to get a fair trial in Washington, D.C.”

But Washington judges have consistently rejected venue transfer motions in Jan. 6 cases. As then-Chief Judge Beryl Howell put it earlier this year when ruling against a rioter, there’s a “brick wall” of such decisions against these defendants trying to avoid being prosecuted in Washington.

Let’s look at the factors that judges analyze and how Trump’s situation compares.



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Well Don, you had your chance to clean up DC when you were there. You had four years. What did you do about it?
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"Donald was allowed to petition (state) governments when he lost but perceived he won"

Except that his method of "petitioning" by directly phoning governors and election officials to "find votes" is not very appropriate with claiming 1st Amendment.

"the former guy had the right to enforce his belief"

That's not how it works, even for an impotus, you file a law suit to get courts to decide your fate.

"The Biden administration has to prove that his belief was wrong"

no, they have to prove that laws were broken.

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Isn't it the burden of the accuser to provide proof of the accusation? And its only THEN the Defense gets to knock holes in the proof provided? "Proving a belief wrong" does not compute.

Not that I would expect a licensed lawyer to know that.
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Thanks for posting that, nice to see Chuck grow a spine :biggrin:

I lost count of how many times the lawyer said Mr. Trump and then caught himself and said Mr. President. Watched Jen Psaki's show this morning. She had Andrew Weisman and Neal Katyal on today. They had a few choice things today about what the lawyer is saying.
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"For completeness," under etiquette protocols, there is exactly one "Mr.* President," i.e., the sitting president.

But talking heads aren't bound by (or concerned with) etiquette. And I say "President Obama" just to tweak the birthers.

* Mr./Mrs./Dr./etc.
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And now he's personally attacking the judge
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If he wants the federal government to take over, isn’t that saying the Biden administration should take it over? Or does he think his buddies in Congress get to decide that? ! :think: :think:
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