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What will the jury decide?

Trump liable for rape; award of more than a million dollars
45
63%
Trump liable for rape; award of less than a million dollars
14
19%
Trump liable for rape; award of one dollar (it's possible!)
2
3%
Trump not liable for rape or assault
3
4%
Hung jury, which means mistrial and new trial later
8
11%
 
Total votes: 72

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3 hours of deliberation. MSNBC says looks like jury was swift and unanimous.
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Even the Pool boy! There’s hope for the rest of MAGAland! :pigsfly:
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:waiting:
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Wow.
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Wasn't expecting that.
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Ah, $2 million. :biggrin:
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No on rape. YES on sexual battery. 2 million award
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Okay, now I owe a huge apology to Maybenaut for not improving the poll.

I'm sorry, Maybenaut.
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No on rape, yes on sexual assault. Award is $2 million. Also yes on defamation. Award for defamation $1 million. $280,000 in punitives. There was another $20,000 for--something-- so there is a nice round number of $3.3 million. Holy shit.
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Another million for defamation, ol' Wifehorn says total almost $5 million.
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:thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: :thankyou: jury.

MSNBC just said $5 million as well. I missed something.
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Accountability! :thumbsup: :clap:
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Good.

Of course he will appeal this verdict for years.
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@KlasfeldReports
Judge tells jurors that each of them has the ability to talk about their experiences — and publicly identify themselves, if they do so.

But he advises them not to: "Not now, and not for a long time."

The judge DIRECTS them not to identify other jurors.
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The jury verdict on sexual assault vice rape smacks of a compromise. That probably made the other verdicts easier for the juror(s) who didn't want to vote for the top (civil) offense.
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Werd.
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Nothing on Fox website yet. Might take them a while to spin it. :faint:
Edit: I turned on Fox channel and they're reporting it live. Didn't listen, I've got the tablet tuned into CNN. Nicolle Wallace should be fun today :popcorn:
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So, at the margin I would have preferred "yes" on the first question, but the fact that it was "no" makes it harder to argue credibly that this was a politicized, knee-jerk jury.

Edit: I too strongly suspect that this was a compromise verdict.
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HAPPY DANCE!

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I cannot stop jumping up and down. Finally some accountability.
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