Dominion v Fox - Dominion Voting Sues Fox News for $1.6B over 2020 Election Claims in Delaware

[humblescribe]

Fox can always earn this settlement amount and any future settlement amounts back. They may post a quarterly loss in their financials, but they will emerge unscathed in the eyes of their viewers. That is ultimately what led to the settlement. I do not think that Dominion's lawyers were going to pass up $787.5 million for their $50 million client. So, while it would have been equitable and just for Fox to air retractions and apologies for their venality and mendacity, lawyers gotta do what is best for their client.

Funny how one of Fox' defense was that they were reporting on newsworthy events. Tell me, Rupert, Lachlan, Suzanne, Tucker, Sean, Laura, and the rest of the gang, is not a $787.5 million defamation settlement newsworthy? Had this been a trial with CNN or MSNBC instead would you be reporting it?

I'll wait.

[Maybenaut]

Fox can always earn this settlement amount and any future settlement amounts back. They may post a quarterly loss in their financials, but they will emerge unscathed in the eyes of their viewers. That is ultimately what led to the settlement. I do not think that Dominion's lawyers were going to pass up $787.5 million for their $50 million client. So, while it would have been equitable and just for Fox to air retractions and apologies for their venality and mendacity, lawyers gotta do what is best for their client.

Funny how one of Fox' defense was that they were reporting on newsworthy events. Tell me, Rupert, Lachlan, Suzanne, Tucker, Sean, Laura, and the rest of the gang, is not a $787.5 million defamation settlement newsworthy? Had this been a trial with CNN or MSNBC instead would you be reporting it?

I'll wait.

Well, it wasn’t up to the lawyers to pass on or accept the settlement.

[Wendybird]

Well, I'm gutted. I let myself believe Dominion would include insisting on an on-air apology. I thought Dominion would only settle for the 1.6 billion PLUS an on-air apology. I clearly thought wrong. Fox will just play this off and go back to business as usual. Their idiot customers will never be the wiser.
Oh well.

[neonzx]

I am satisfied with the outcome. If you recall, some Dominion employees had to go into hiding because they were doxed and their lives threatened by RWNJs.

Now let's move on to the pillow dude.

[realist]

I am satisfied with the outcome. If you recall, some Dominion employees had to go into hiding because they were doxed and their lives threatened by RWNJs.

Now let's move on to the pillow dude.

And don''t forget SmartMatic's suit.

Also a (or more) shareholder has sued Fox over the same reporting.

[realist]

Fox can always earn this settlement amount and any future settlement amounts back. They may post a quarterly loss in their financials, but they will emerge unscathed in the eyes of their viewers. That is ultimately what led to the settlement. I do not think that Dominion's lawyers were going to pass up $787.5 million for their $50 million client. So, while it would have been equitable and just for Fox to air retractions and apologies for their venality and mendacity, lawyers gotta do what is best for their client.

Funny how one of Fox' defense was that they were reporting on newsworthy events. Tell me, Rupert, Lachlan, Suzanne, Tucker, Sean, Laura, and the rest of the gang, is not a $787.5 million defamation settlement newsworthy? Had this been a trial with CNN or MSNBC instead would you be reporting it?

I'll wait.

Well, it wasn’t up to the lawyers to pass on or accept the settlement.

[somerset]

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4:04 PM · Apr 18, 2023

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A FOX Corp. shareholder sued Murdoch and the board, alleging they had breached the fiduciary duty they owed to the shareholders. Basically alleging they had a duty not to drive the corporation off a cliff by promoting these lies.

Today's settlement will feature in that lawsuit.

I see. Thanks!

[humblescribe]

Fox can always earn this settlement amount and any future settlement amounts back. They may post a quarterly loss in their financials, but they will emerge unscathed in the eyes of their viewers. That is ultimately what led to the settlement. I do not think that Dominion's lawyers were going to pass up $787.5 million for their $50 million client. So, while it would have been equitable and just for Fox to air retractions and apologies for their venality and mendacity, lawyers gotta do what is best for their client.

Funny how one of Fox' defense was that they were reporting on newsworthy events. Tell me, Rupert, Lachlan, Suzanne, Tucker, Sean, Laura, and the rest of the gang, is not a $787.5 million defamation settlement newsworthy? Had this been a trial with CNN or MSNBC instead would you be reporting it?

I'll wait.

Well, it wasn’t up to the lawyers to pass on or accept the settlement.

Sorry for mistyping. I fully realize that the decision lies with the client. In fact, I think everyone on this site knows this. This is picking at nits.

But tell me this: Is the lawyers' job merely to report: Fox is offering $X. Now go and think about it. Then get back to me, and I'll pass along your decision. Or is the lawyer's job to explain, give advice, offer suggestions, plan strategy, opine on the strengths and weaknesses of the case, and then develop a response?

While I was careless in my choice of words, even this accountant knows that the lawyer's job is to get the best possible result for the client. And, by extension, if the lawyers thought that this was the best possible result for the client, and recommended as much, then it is not a stretch to substitute lawyer for client in colloquial discussion. And Fogbow is essentially colloquial discussion with snark and humor tossed it for spice.

Your reply came across as condescending. Just because I am a plebeian retired CPA and not a lawyer does not mean that I am stupid.

[Maybenaut]

My apologies.

[pipistrelle]

IANAL but I've been told many times settlement is often in the interest of both parties, although most settlements I've seen have happened long before it got to jury selection/first day.

[northland10]

Well, I'm gutted. I let myself believe Dominion would include insisting on an on-air apology. I thought Dominion would only settle for the 1.6 billion PLUS an on-air apology. I clearly thought wrong. Fox will just play this off and go back to business as usual. Their idiot customers will never be the wiser.
Oh well.

To be honest, I doubt having Tucker, Hannity, and all the others make daily apologies will make a dent in their customers' beliefs. They only will hear what they want to hear and ignore everything else.

[bob]

Slate:

While looks can certainly be deceiving, and while I do not mean to speculate on any of the jurors’ political orientations, the majority-minority jury that was empaneled at the very least did not appear to be a demographically favorable one for Fox News, whose audience is, basically, old and white. Was the prospect of a jury which featured seven Black members and only one white male enough to push Fox back to the negotiating table?

[John Thomas8]

Justice for America denied.

There's not a single reason why the liars weren't forced to sit in the box and admit they lied for personal gain.

None.

This sucks at levels I'm only now grasping.

[somerset]

Justice for America denied.

There's not a single reason why the liars weren't forced to sit in the box and admit they lied for personal gain.

None.

This sucks at levels I'm only now grasping.

Civil litigation is not criminal litigation.

[John Thomas8]

Justice for America denied.

There's not a single reason why the liars weren't forced to sit in the box and admit they lied for personal gain.

None.

This sucks at levels I'm only now grasping.

Civil litigation is not criminal litigation.

Yep.

Still leaves America without justice.

The lying has to stop.

[Patagoniagirl]

Justice for America denied.

There's not a single reason why the liars weren't forced to sit in the box and admit they lied for personal gain.

None.

This sucks at levels I'm only now grasping.

Civil litigation is not criminal litigation.

Yep.

Still leaves America without justice.

The lying has to stop.

No shittah, JT!. Ya gots the $, well, good on ya.

[John Thomas8]

Civil litigation is not criminal litigation.

Yep.

Still leaves America without justice.

The lying has to stop.

No shittah, JT!. Ya gots the $, well, good on ya.

Giggle, I don't have the $ to crush my NPD nemesis, let alone take on a billion dollar corporation.

Neither means justice wasn't served.

[neonzx]

The fact that FoxNews agreed to permit the release the $ number as part of settlement agreement (often, settlements are confidential) speaks to an admission of guilt for their behavior. It's a WIN. Take it.

[Patagoniagirl]

The fact that FoxNews agreed to permit the release the $ number as part of settlement agreement (often, settlements are confidential) speaks to an admission of guilt for their behavior. It's a WIN. Take it.

I disagree. And that is exactly my point above. Money more often than not buys it's own justice. That's not a win, but Dominion did it

[realist]

Justice for America denied.

There's not a single reason why the liars weren't forced to sit in the box and admit they lied for personal gain.

None.

This sucks at levels I'm only now grasping.

And if it had gone to trial and Dominion lost? Certainly possible. This suit wasn’t filed to “get America justice, it was filed because Diminion felt harmed and wanted Fox to be held accountable for lying about Dominion. In fact, even if tried and Dominion got every dollar it wanted plus on-air admissions, that would not “give America Justice.”

I’m not in the least surprised it settled. I suspected it would but expected it earlier. It’s not, however, unusual to settle right before trial or even during, and sometimes while the jury is deliberating.

[realist]

IANAL but I've been told many times settlement is often in the interest of both parties, although most settlements I've seen have happened long before it got to jury selection/first day.

Happens a lot. The phrase is “settled on the courthouse steps.”

[AndyinPA]

I'm as bummed as anyone else, but I'm not surprised it settled, even when it did. It's just about the money. Smartmatic will likely be the same.

[keith]

I'm as bummed as anyone else, but I'm not surprised it settled, even when it did. It's just about the money. Smartmatic will likely be the same.

Much smaller $$ though.

[Sam the Centipede]

I disagree. And that is exactly my point above. Money more often than not buys it's own justice. That's not a win, but Dominion did it

Yes. Imagine Fox were much smaller or cash-poor. Dominion would have insisted on some sort of mea culpa in return for not destroying the company.

But Fox's deep pockets allowed it to buy its way out of trouble, to hide its shame behind its curtain of hypocrisy. The threat that "our clever lawyers might twist the jury better than yours" is too scary for rational plaintiffs.

Always and everywhere, rich men can buy their own justice. Always. Everywhere.

[neonzx]

The fact that FoxNews agreed to permit the release the $ number as part of settlement agreement (often, settlements are confidential) speaks to an admission of guilt for their behavior. It's a WIN. Take it.

's the way

I disagree. And that is exactly my point above. Money more often than not buys it's own justice. That's not a win, but Dominion did it

Justice? If you are wronged by someone and file suit, you get to decide when the scales of justice balance during the course of the case. It's a civil case, not criminal. Nobody was ever going to jail over this. You know how much Dominion got in the settlement -- and since the settlement included a clause that the money amount could be made public, it trashes FoxNews. It is a win. Sorry we didn't get to see witnesses on the stand, but that's the way it goes.