Of course it will be classy! This is trump we're talking about!Trump lawyer Joe Tacopina told Dana Bash on CNN's "State of the Union" that he hopes Trump's surrender on Tuesday will be as "painless and classy" as possible.
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I know why he is not pleased. Arpaio never used his department to go on a political witchhunt. No never.bob wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 2:41 pm1. Ex-presidents always were subject to indictment. (See also: Ford's pardoning Nixon; see generally: Agnew, Spiro.)Arpaio wrote:This sets a little precedent[.] Now the word is out that you can go and indict an ex-president and a current president and they opened another door.
2. No sitting president ever has been indicted. (Primarily because of the DOJ's beliefs on the matter.)
3. Arpaio grifted for years off accusing a sitting and former president of crimes. Arpaio gladly would have opened that door if he ever could have found a fellow-traveler prosecutor.
He did have a fellow traveler prosecutor but that one eventually got himself disbarred for their actions.
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P&E: Trump to Speak Tuesday Evening from Mar-A-Lago:
According to NBC New York as of Saturday:NBC wrote:Sources say Trump will be arraigned on the 15th floor, Part 59 in the Manhattan Criminal Court building, the same courtroom where Harvey Weinstein was tried and convicted of rape and sexual assault in February 2020.
It is directly across the hall from the courtroom where Trump Corp and Trump Payroll Corp were found guilty in December 2022 of criminal tax fraud, conspiracy and falsifying business records. Attorney Susan Necheles defended the Trump Organization in that case and is expected to appear alongside Trump when he is arraigned.
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New: Trump has told advisers and associates that he’s prepared to escalate attacks against the Manhattan DA Alvin Bragg now that he’s been formally charged — and remarked in a private moment that it’s time to politically “fuck em up”.
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And if anyone can fuck something up it would be trump.
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Then pay $130K to hush it up
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Yeah. And I don't think he wields the power that he once did.sugar magnolia wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:25 pm
And if anyone can fuck something up it would be trump.
Much will be revealed on Tuesday when his supporters riot. How many will show up? How will the MAGAts spin it?
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Trump to fly to New York for court surrender amid tight security
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Former U.S. President Donald Trump is set to fly from Florida to New York City on Monday, ahead of his scheduled arraignment related to hush money paid to a porn star before the 2016 election, as security tightens in Manhattan.
Trump, the first former U.S. president to face criminal charges, is due to be arraigned, fingerprinted and photographed at the downtown Manhattan courthouse on Tuesday. His lawyers have said he will enter a plea of not guilty.
The specific charges included in the grand jury indictment have not been disclosed; Tuesday's arraignment marks Trump's first appearance in court and in front of a judge in the case.
The Republican businessman-turned-politician plans to travel from his Mar-a-Lago estate in Palm Beach midday on Monday, arriving later in the day in New York and spending the night at Trump Tower in Manhattan before arriving at the courthouse on Tuesday morning, an adviser said.
A court official said the arraignment is planned for 2:15 p.m. (1815 GMT) on Tuesday. Trump then will return to Florida and deliver remarks at Mar-a-Lago at 8:15 p.m. on Tuesday (0015 GMT on Wednesday), his office said.
New York police during the weekend began erecting barricades along the edge of the sidewalks around Trump Tower and the Manhattan Criminal Court building downtown, and some other courtrooms will be cleared.
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FLASHBACK: When right-wing pundits thought political hush money payments were a crime
FLASHBACK: When right-wing pundits thought political hush money payments were a crime
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"The facts are that he broke campaign finance laws and that he lied to cover it up," Fox News' Sean Hannity said.
Hannity was not talking about former President Donald Trump, who was indicted last week for funneling $130,000 to his alleged mistress, Stormy Daniels. Prosecutors in Manhattan are expected to allege that Trump violated campaign finance laws by not reporting the payment as a campaign contribution and then falsified business records as part of a coverup. The precise charges will remain under seal until Trump is formally arraigned on Tuesday.
The quote from Hannity, from June 3, 2011, refers to former presidential candidate and former senator John Edwards (D-NC), who was indicted that day on charges similar to those Trump now faces. Edwards was charged with violating campaign finance law by "accept[ing] more than $900,000 in an effort to conceal from the public facts that he believed would harm his candidacy" and then hiding the contributions from the FEC. The money funded payoffs to Rielle Hunter, his mistress, to cover up his affair during his presidential campaign in 2007 and 2008. According to the indictment, Edwards conspired with his staff to falsify the purpose of the payments, claiming the funds were used for "chairs" and an "antique table."
From the outset of the Edwards investigation to the indictment and throughout the trial, Hannity expressed no objection to Edwards being prosecuted for this conduct. On the contrary, Hannity regularly endorsed the prosecutors' theory that money spent to cover up an affair during a campaign should be considered an illegal campaign contribution.
In February 2011, Hannity conducted a sympathetic interview with former Edwards aide Andrew Young, who was the prosecution's star witness in the case. Young had initially claimed paternity of Hunter's child, even though Edwards was the actual father. In March 2011, Hannity said that an indictment could "come any day now" and promoted phone conversations recorded by Young as "very incriminating." The recordings, according to Hannity, proved "he knew this money was being raised in spite of claims to the contrary; if in fact that's true, that's in violation of law."
Trump, should be "ashamed of himself."
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Alvin Bragg should be ashamed of himself. This is a travesty for our country, but it is a political windfall for Donald Trump. If he wins in “24 he will have Alvin Bragg to thank.
But in numerous appearances on the O'Reilly Factor during the Edwards' investigation and trial, Kelly did not suggest any impropriety by prosecutors. In an April 26, 2012 appearance, while the trial was ongoing, Kelly said the case was "going pretty well for the prosecution" because "it doesn't seem like a lot of the facts are in dispute."
Today, the Wall Street Journal editorial page is full of columns trashing the decision to charge Trump. A typical editorial last month decried Bragg's "bad judgment" and accused him of indicting Trump "based on the weakest of charges." The paper does not appear to have run any column defending Bragg's indictment. The paper, owned by Rupert Murdoch, took a different approach with the charges against John Edwards. It ran multiple columns emphasizing the righteousness of the charges against Edwards.
Steve Simpson, for example, wrote the following in June 2011:
If the candidates themselves can define what a contribution is, the laws would be pointless… So it's a bit strange to… claim[] that Mr. Edwards should have been able to accept nearly a million dollars to cover up an affair that clearly would have affected his presidential campaign.
Similar arguments appear in multiplecolumns by James Taranto, who currently edits the paper's op-ed page.
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I was kinda hoping that he would be arraigned in front of Judge Harry Stone, with prosecutor Dan Fielding and Bailiff Bull Shannon present.bob wrote: ↑Sun Apr 02, 2023 6:23 pm P&E: Trump to Speak Tuesday Evening from Mar-A-Lago:According to NBC New York as of Saturday:NBC wrote:Sources say Trump will be arraigned on the 15th floor, Part 59 in the Manhattan Criminal Court building, the same courtroom where Harvey Weinstein was tried and convicted of rape and sexual assault in February 2020.
It is directly across the hall from the courtroom where Trump Corp and Trump Payroll Corp were found guilty in December 2022 of criminal tax fraud, conspiracy and falsifying business records. Attorney Susan Necheles defended the Trump Organization in that case and is expected to appear alongside Trump when he is arraigned.
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That would have been great, noble! Arraignment in the Harvey Weinstein courtroom is a good substitute!
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Hijinks ensue!!Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Mon Apr 03, 2023 9:37 am That would have been great, noble! Arraignment in the Harvey Weinstein courtroom is a good substitute!
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Trump Arrives In NYC Monday Ahead Of Historic Criminal Arraignment
Former President Donald Trump said he'll leave Florida at noon Monday for Trump Tower, where he'll await his expected arraignment Tuesday.
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Former President Donald Trump said he'll leave Florida at noon Monday for Trump Tower, where he'll await his expected arraignment Tuesday.
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Trump, in a late-night post on his social media site, said he plans to leave his Mar-a-Lago home in Florida at noon Monday for Trump Tower in Manhattan.
"On Tuesday morning I will be going to, believe it or not, the Courthouse," he wrote. "America was not supposed to be this way!"
Trump is expected to be arraigned Tuesday on more than 30 criminal counts related to a hush-money payment to porn star Stormy Daniels, who said she had sex with the former president when he was a New York City real estate mogul and reality TV star.
The hush-money payment came on the eve of the 2016 election through Trump's former attorney Michael Cohen, who pleaded guilty to charges relating to it and has said the former president reimbursed him through the Trump Organization.
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(1) People have been taking Trump's word for what the charges will be on the theory that he would know (because defendants usually know)
And Trump doesn't know.
(2) Trump evidently did think that he "persuaded" Bragg not to bring charges. He evidently thought his public attacks and public "defense" and the witness he sent in at the last moment might was enough to deter Bragg.
It wasn't. No surprise.
(3) here is the big one: His political strategy conflicts with his legal one.
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He really has to pick, and he has: the political strategy he has adopted is hurting him (and will continue to hurt him) in the criminal matter.
He can't do both. He can't rile his reactionary base AND behave in a way that will lessen his criminal liability.
He's never been the defendant in a criminal case before. He will find this is very different from civil cases or impeachment or anything else.
Sorry this was so long but when I didn't explain well, people misunderstood.
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(1) People have been taking Trump's word for what the charges will be on the theory that he would know (because defendants usually know)
And Trump doesn't know.
(2) Trump evidently did think that he "persuaded" Bragg not to bring charges. He evidently thought his public attacks and public "defense" and the witness he sent in at the last moment might was enough to deter Bragg.
It wasn't. No surprise.
(3) here is the big one: His political strategy conflicts with his legal one.
Teri Kanefield
@Teri_Kanefield@law-and-politics.online
He really has to pick, and he has: the political strategy he has adopted is hurting him (and will continue to hurt him) in the criminal matter.
He can't do both. He can't rile his reactionary base AND behave in a way that will lessen his criminal liability.
He's never been the defendant in a criminal case before. He will find this is very different from civil cases or impeachment or anything else.
Sorry this was so long but when I didn't explain well, people misunderstood.
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Trump arraignment: Private plane, agents, protests expected on journey
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Step one - from beachfront residence to airport
The former president is currently at Mar-a-Lago, his sprawling beachfront residence and members-only club in Palm Beach, Florida.
He has said he plans to leave Florida at midday (17:00 BST).
We know the former president will be accompanied by Secret Service agents from the moment he leaves Mar-a-Lago. One official who spoke on condition of anonymity told the Washington Post that "dozens and dozens" of agents would be required to ensure the trip is secure.
He'll likely travel by car to Palm Beach International Airport which is 2.5 miles (4km) from Mar-a-Lago. While that isn't confirmed, he's used the airport many times before and it's about a 15 minute drive.
Step two - a personal plane to New York
Mr Trump is reportedly going to fly from Florida to New York's LaGuardia Airport on his private plane - a flight of around three hours.
Step three - from LaGuardia to Trump Tower
We expect Mr Trump to arrive at LaGuardia late on Tuesday afternoon or perhaps early evening.
From there, he'll head to Trump Tower in Manhattan, a journey most likely taken by car. It's about a 40-minute drive through Queens, over the East River and then into Manhattan.
Given the fact he's a former president and a large number of Secret Service agents will be travelling with him, we'd expect to see a motorcade of vehicles making the journey. And possibly a police escort complete with flashing lights and sirens.
At Trump Tower he will reportedly meet his legal team before spending the night in his penthouse that spans the top three floors of the skyscraper.
The journey will no doubt be quicker if Trump chooses to fly.
He does own a personal helicopter, and the BBC's US partner CBS understands that it is available to fly him to Manhattan from LaGuardia if he chooses.
Step four - from Trump Tower to court
The former president's journey from Trump Tower to the Manhattan Criminal Courts Building will be a major security operation involving large numbers of police and Secret Service agents.
The journey itself is about a 30 minute drive south through Manhattan - but that time could be much less if there's a full police escort.
It's not clear if Mr Trump will make remarks to the media before he leaves Trump Tower or when he arrives outside court. Regardless, there will be a huge number of cameras and reporters waiting for him there.
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Personally, I get a lot of satisfaction that this process - to find Trump accountable for his criminal actions - starts during Holy Week.
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Long Island Loud Majority and the Young Rethuglicans have put out notices to their members to rally on Tuesday with mtg and Posobiec. I suspect there will be a decent crowd. Or not, will be interesting to see.
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Just an FYI - I checked the weather for New York City for tomorrow and it's supposed to be partly sunny with a high of 66°. I would have loved to have seen downpours, but it is what it is. Or will be. Whatever.
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"For completeness," the feds charged Edwards. A jury found him not guilty on one charge and deadlocked on the other two. The judge declared a mistrial, and there was no retrial.The quote from Hannity, from June 3, 2011, refers to former presidential candidate and former senator John Edwards (D-NC), who was indicted that day on charges similar to those Trump now faces.
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Newsmax live coverage (it's always been free on the web, the DirctTV whining was all theatre). They're wall-to-wall, following the plane, in mourning... trying to be brave soldiers "this is all very, very good for Trump"... "we're following the plane" (it's on the screen)...
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The *real* crime here...
Charlie Kirk @charliekirk11 wrote: Trump attorney Alina Habba tells CNN that Bragg’s office LEAKED the number of counts against Trump to the press, information that Trump’s legal team doesn’t have, and that’s a felony:
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It's like a clown car where lawyers keep coming out rather than clowns. Wait, strike that. Clowns it is.
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Todd Blanche, a white collar defense attorney, was hired Monday
Former President Trump on Monday hired white collar defense attorney Todd Blanche to be part of his legal team ahead of his Tuesday arraignment in New York City, Fox News Digital has learned.
Blanche, a former partner at Cawalader, Wickersham & Taft, will serve as a defense attorney in the case brought against the former president by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg. Blanche joins Trump defense attorney Joe Tacopina and other lawyers working on the case for Trump.
The source told Fox News Digital that Blanche will be "additional firepower" to the Trump legal team.
Blanche previously represented Paul Manafort, Trump's former campaign chairman. Manafort was charged as part of former Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation in 2019, and pleaded guilty to foreign lobbying and witness tampering, as well as tax fraud and conspiracy.
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