💣 The Disastrous 118th Congress - MAGA Mike Johnson Saved by Shadow Speaker Hakeem Jeffries

Trying to make sense of a crazy world, with limited success mostly
User avatar
Gregg
Posts: 5502
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:54 am
Location: Cincinnati, Gettysburg
Occupation: We build cars

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#751

Post by Gregg »

Let them sue, and then let the case drag out for 22 months.

I'm just done with these phuckwaddles.
Supreme Commander, Imperial Illuminati Air Force
:dog:

You don't have to consent, but I'm gonna tase you anyway.
User avatar
Lani
Posts: 2524
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:42 am

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#752

Post by Lani »

A top House Republican just admitted that Republicans might cut Medicare and Social Security for people who are more than a few years out from getting it.

https://mastodon.social/@aravosis/109729799550309037
Image You can't wait until life isn't hard anymore before you decide to be happy.
User avatar
Volkonski
Posts: 12483
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:06 am
Location: Texoma and North Fork of Long Island
Occupation: Retired mechanical engineer
Verified:

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#753

Post by Volkonski »

Lani wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 3:45 am A top House Republican just admitted that Republicans might cut Medicare and Social Security for people who are more than a few years out from getting it.

https://mastodon.social/@aravosis/109729799550309037
Democrats and advocates for the elderly need to pound the table about this for the next 2 years. The AARP needs this to be their cover page headline every month.
“If everyone fought for their own convictions there would be no war.” ― Leo Tolstoy, War and Peace
User avatar
Phoenix520
Posts: 4151
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:20 pm
Verified:

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#754

Post by Phoenix520 »

Why do they want to cut SS? Is it really to have that money? The people who are insisting it be gone are surely not going to need it.
New Turtle
Posts: 785
Joined: Wed Nov 10, 2021 2:43 pm

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#755

Post by New Turtle »

The other day Donald made a video telling House GOP to save social security cause the radical socialist democrats are trying to take it away.
User avatar
Slim Cognito
Posts: 7519
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:15 am
Location: The eff away from trump.
Occupation: Hats. I do hats.
Verified:

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#756

Post by Slim Cognito »

Yeah, the "socialists" are trying to eradicate "social" security. Seems legit.

(sadly, the trumpers will not see the irony.)
May the bridges I burn light my way.

ImageImageImage x5
User avatar
Suranis
Posts: 6884
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 5:25 pm

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#757

Post by Suranis »

Phoenix520 wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:07 pm Why do they want to cut SS? Is it really to have that money? The people who are insisting it be gone are surely not going to need it.
Same reason W Bush wanted to dump all the So Sec fund into the stock market - its a pile of money they want to rob.
Hic sunt dracones
User avatar
Kendra
Posts: 11271
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:17 am

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#758

Post by Kendra »

Michael Flynn associate Ivan Raiklin, outside his Reawaken event with Ashli Babbitt’s mother, says he is going to DC and Kevin McCarthy has until the end of day tomorrow to release all J6 footage or he will call for a Member to make a Motion to Vacate to remove him as Speaker.
User avatar
Foggy
Dick Tater
Posts: 11406
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 8:45 am
Location: Fogbow HQ
Occupation: Dick Tater/Space Cadet
Verified: grumpy ol' geezer

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#759

Post by Foggy »

:faint:

He's so scary!
User avatar
sugar magnolia
Posts: 3919
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 12:54 pm

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#760

Post by sugar magnolia »

Why wait? I'll make that call for a member to make a motion to remove him RIGHT NOW!!

I'll probably get the exact same response he does.
User avatar
Flatpoint High
Posts: 1687
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:58 am
Location: Hotel California, PH523, Galaxy Central, M103
Occupation: professional pain in the ass, voice actor & keeper of the straight face
Verified:

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#761

Post by Flatpoint High »

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevinismus
Hey! Kevin!
Sei kein Kevin
castigat ridendo mores.
VELOCIUS QUAM ASPARAGI COQUANTUR
User avatar
raison de arizona
Posts: 20219
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:21 am
Location: Nothing, Arizona
Occupation: bit twiddler
Verified: ✔️ he/him/his

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#762

Post by raison de arizona »

Little by little, we learn about the deals McCarthy made with the wingnuts to become Speaker. Now we know one was a Mayorkas impeachment hearing.
“Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide.” —John Adams
Danraft
Posts: 493
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:43 pm
Location: Michigan
Contact:

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#763

Post by Danraft »

Regarding Social Security changes….
Well, moving the qualifying age back 3 years isn’t the worst.
It isn’t moving it to the Stock Market or something else really dangerous.
I haven’t seen a numbers analysis, but I suspect that medical costs and other costs are really high. It has become a very large part of our national budget.

Without seeing a numbers analysis I can’t judge the validity of moving back the age of benefits.

Australia just moved theirs back. It is a rational response (maybe).
User avatar
pipistrelle
Posts: 8031
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 11:27 am

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#764

Post by pipistrelle »

On a couple of fronts moving the age is ridiculous at an individual level.

No one is going to hire me if I'm laid off. That puts a huge gap between me and benefits age (it's already a huge gap, thanks to the years already added. This isn't only me.

People may be living longer, but aren't healthier from an ability-to-work perspective. From a health perspective, I probably should retire now as I'm in constant pain. But not being a 1 percenter I can't afford to both money-wise and health insurance-wise. And I'm better off than many people.
User avatar
AndyinPA
Posts: 10862
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 10:42 am
Location: Pittsburgh
Verified:

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#765

Post by AndyinPA »

Raise the cap. It's currently about $160,000. There's no reason one should stop paying into it at some arbitrary number.
"Choose your leaders with wisdom and forethought. To be led by a coward is to be controlled by all that the coward fears… To be led by a liar is to ask to be told lies." -Octavia E. Butler
User avatar
Slim Cognito
Posts: 7519
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 9:15 am
Location: The eff away from trump.
Occupation: Hats. I do hats.
Verified:

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#766

Post by Slim Cognito »

AndyinPA wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:42 pm Raise the cap. It's currently about $160,000. There's no reason one should stop paying into it at some arbitrary number.
This all the effing day long
May the bridges I burn light my way.

ImageImageImage x5
Dave from down under
Posts: 4515
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2021 4:50 pm
Location: Down here!

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#767

Post by Dave from down under »

Danraft wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 9:57 pm Regarding Social Security changes….

Australia just moved theirs back. It is a rational response (maybe).

Age requirements
The pension age is being gradually increased from 65 to 67 years as set out in the table below.

Period within which a person was born Pension age Date pension age changes
From 1 July 1952 to 31 December 1953 65 years and 6 months 1 July 2017
From 1 January 1954 to 30 June 1955 66 years 1 July 2019
From 1 July 1955 to 31 December 1956 66 years and 6 months 1 July 2021
From 1 January 1957 onwards 67 years 1 July 2023

https://www.dss.gov.au/seniors/benefits ... ge-pension
User avatar
MN-Skeptic
Posts: 3954
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:03 pm
Location: Twin Cities

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#768

Post by MN-Skeptic »

There are SO many jobs which are hard on a person's body. Unfortunately, those aren't the people contributing to the coffers of folks in Congress so they get ignored.
Tim Walz’ Golden Rule: Mind your own damn business!
User avatar
northland10
Posts: 6670
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:47 pm
Location: Northeast Illinois
Occupation: Organist/Choir Director/Fundraising Data Analyst
Verified: ✅ I'm me.

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#769

Post by northland10 »

Suranis wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 4:31 pm
Phoenix520 wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 2:07 pm Why do they want to cut SS? Is it really to have that money? The people who are insisting it be gone are surely not going to need it.
Same reason W Bush wanted to dump all the So Sec fund into the stock market - its a pile of money they want to rob.
Actually, it is not about raiding the fund. It is all ideological. The GOP has been against SS since it began. Despite the newer Tea Partier/MAGA types being ones who depend on all the government programs, the party still has an ideology of "no government programs." They have to feed the anger and outrage of the MAGA world in order to turn their attention from the fact that they want to take away their SS and their Medicare (or ACA).

This is the same reason they have not actually bothered to pass immigration reform, even the dreadfully cruel reform that the MAGA wants. Their corporate money world wants cheap labor, so to shut the door, even to undocumented, would hurt their donor's bottom line. Therefore, they can only use it to feed outrage to get elected by those who think they are losing their country.
101010 :towel:
User avatar
MN-Skeptic
Posts: 3954
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 1:03 pm
Location: Twin Cities

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#770

Post by MN-Skeptic »

northland10 wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:46 am Actually, it is not about raiding the fund. It is all ideological. The GOP has been against SS since it began. Despite the newer Tea Partier/MAGA types being ones who depend on all the government programs, the party still has an ideology of "no government programs." They have to feed the anger and outrage of the MAGA world in order to turn their attention from the fact that they want to take away their SS and their Medicare (or ACA).
It's amazing how many Republicans believe that if they didn't have to pay into Social Security, they would wisely invest all those thousands and thousands of dollars and have a cushy retirement. After all, they are not irresponsible scum (lazy black welfare queens, irresponsible single mothers, drunken scofflaws, etc.) who can't handle money. Moreover, they take care of their health and so won't need medical insurance from the government. They're responsible conservatives. :roll:
Tim Walz’ Golden Rule: Mind your own damn business!
User avatar
noblepa
Posts: 2620
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 2:55 pm
Location: Bay Village, Ohio
Occupation: Retired IT Nerd

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#771

Post by noblepa »

MN-Skeptic wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 12:01 pm
northland10 wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 8:46 am Actually, it is not about raiding the fund. It is all ideological. The GOP has been against SS since it began. Despite the newer Tea Partier/MAGA types being ones who depend on all the government programs, the party still has an ideology of "no government programs." They have to feed the anger and outrage of the MAGA world in order to turn their attention from the fact that they want to take away their SS and their Medicare (or ACA).
It's amazing how many Republicans believe that if they didn't have to pay into Social Security, they would wisely invest all those thousands and thousands of dollars and have a cushy retirement. After all, they are not irresponsible scum (lazy black welfare queens, irresponsible single mothers, drunken scofflaws, etc.) who can't handle money. Moreover, they take care of their health and so won't need medical insurance from the government. They're responsible conservatives. :roll:
They also think that they can invest in the stock market and consistently beat the ROI of professional money managers.

I had a similar argument with someone about whether it was better to take the annual payments or the lump sum if you won the lottery. The guy insisted that he could beat the investors at the lottery commission, so he preferred the lump sum. I tried to point out that he not only had to do better than they did, he had to do almost 50% better than they did. The lottery commission doesn't pay income tax on its investment earnings, as he would have to do. So, if the commission made a 5% roi, he had to do 7-8%, CONSISTENTLY, in order to realize as much money as the commission.

The same is true of the Social Security Administration.

If the republicans had their way, abolished the SSA and gave everyone the balance in their account, most people would be broke in 3-5 years. How many people have had their 401(k)'s or IRA's wiped out in the last couple of recessions?

The problem is that a lot of people look at SSA as a savings account, that they have been contributing to for years. It is not. It is a tax, pure and simple. No politician will admit this, of course. It was never intended to replace retirement savings for those who could afford it. It was intended to provide a safety net for those who worked all their lives at low-paying jobs and were never able to save anything. They were too busy trying to put food on the table and a roof over their heads. SSA was meant to protect them from having to eat dog food in their old age.

SSA also shoulders the financial risk of investing. No matter what happens in the stock market, my SSA benefits won't change. I'm not a huge fan of IRA's and 401(k)'s. They put the risk on the future retiree. If the market goes sideways just before you retire, you probably won't have time for your account to recover before you must begin drawing it down.
User avatar
Kendra
Posts: 11271
Joined: Tue Feb 23, 2021 10:17 am

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#772

Post by Kendra »

Such a relief that Jim Jordan’s boys on the Judiciary Committee are hard at work on the people’s business.
humblescribe
Posts: 1091
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 3:42 pm
Occupation: Dude
Verified:

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#773

Post by humblescribe »

AndyinPA wrote: Sun Jan 22, 2023 10:42 pm Raise the cap. It's currently about $160,000. There's no reason one should stop paying into it at some arbitrary number.
That would help. But there just aren't a whole lot of wage earners/self-employeds who consistently max out on their Social Security taxable wage/income base. I have prepared personal returns for hundreds of people over the past forty-plus years. Very few attain the SS wage base. Even fewer surpass it by a substantial amount. (Any actuaries around?) I would have to assume that by increasing the wage base the monthly benefit would increase accordingly--not necessarily linearly--but increase nonetheless.

I think that people whose livelihoods are in real estate should be subject to Social Security. Not the guy who owns a rental house or two. But the guy who owns commercial and industrial properties and the guy who owns apartment buildings. These real estate pros make tons of money, but do not pay into Social Security. Granted, they don't collect benefits, either.

Last, there should be a similar provision in the Social Security benefit that exists for the Medicare Part B premium. The dreaded "Income-Related Monthly Adjustment Amount" (IRMAA) increases the Part B premium for "high earning individuals." For marrieds, that threshold is $194,000. Singles are half that amount. The table for 2023 is below. Note that SSA is always two years in arrears in determining this amount. Amounts for 2023 are based upon your 2021 tax return.

https://www.socialsecurityintelligence. ... -brackets/

I think that it is logical that if a high earning retiree with a lot of income from wages, self-employment, pensions, IRA, rents, dividends, capital gains, interest, or other sources receive a reduction in SS income once it exceeds a certain threshold. Never mind that 85% of the benefit is taxable. There should also be a monthly reduction up to 50% of the normal amount.
"Some cause happiness wherever they go; others whenever they go." O. Wilde
User avatar
bob
Posts: 6482
Joined: Mon Mar 01, 2021 12:07 am

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#774

Post by bob »

Michael Flynn associate Ivan Raiklin, outside his Reawaken event with Ashli Babbitt’s mother, says he is going to DC and Kevin McCarthy has until the end of day tomorrow to release all J6 footage or he will call for a Member to make a Motion to Vacate to remove him as Speaker.
Raiklin is like an upmarket Donofrio.

I recall in December 2020 when Raiklin was making all these wild predictions/demands about how the electoral vote should happen. (When not begging for money, which Donofrio to his credit doesn't do.) Nothing Raiklin said actually happened, just like Donofrio.

Raiklin went to DC for the count, and on January 7th, Twitter baned him. :violin:
Image ImageImage
User avatar
northland10
Posts: 6670
Joined: Mon Feb 22, 2021 6:47 pm
Location: Northeast Illinois
Occupation: Organist/Choir Director/Fundraising Data Analyst
Verified: ✅ I'm me.

The 118th Congress with Pretzel Kevin "Only Kevin" "My Kevin" McCarthy, Speaker /Clowns

#775

Post by northland10 »

Kendra wrote: Mon Jan 23, 2023 3:07 pm
Such a relief that Jim Jordan’s boys on the Judiciary Committee are hard at work on the people’s business.
They are all about the free market deciding except when it doesn't suit their fundraising needs.

Walt Disney World’s Splash Mountain breaks a record ahead of closure date
Walt Disney World’s Splash Mountain broke a park record ahead of its closure date on Monday.

Thrill Data, a website that monitors wait times at theme parks, recorded that Splash Mountain hit a wait time of 220 minutes, which is over three hours long, on its final day of operation.

A previous record of 210 minutes was set in 2020, according to the website.

While Disney Parks rides, such as Star Wars: Rise of the Resistance or Animal Kingdom’s Avatar Flight of Passage, have exceeded 200-minute wait times during their opening day, it’s unusual for Splash Mountain to see similar line volume, theme park blog Inside The Magic reported.

The famed water ride is set to undergo a complete makeover and will reopen as a “Princess and the Frog” attraction dubbed “Tiana’s Bayou Adventure” in late 2024.
101010 :towel:
Post Reply

Return to “Current Politics”