TESLA and Elon Musk - anything not elsewhere

[Tiredretiredlawyer]

[Gregg]

I'm no business analyst or EV expert, but it seems to me that Tesla may be in for some rough times ahead, even ignoring the rumors that customers are bailing because of Elmo's Twitter adventures.

For the past ten years, Tesla has been the big name in Electric Vehicles. They had the market largely to themselves. Even with that advantage, as I understand it, Tesla has had only a couple of profitable quarters.

Now, the big, traditional auto makers, such as Ford, GM, Toyota, Honda and Nissan are moving into the EV market in a big way. Those companies have large dealership networks and better reputations for quality construction. I've heard a lot of people say that Teslas are not built very well and have lots of mechanical and electrical glitches.

A fair amount of Tesla's revenue has reportedly come from selling pollution credits. Now that other players are ramping up their own EV production, they may not need to buy credits from Tesla.

Will Tesla be able to compete in a market with so many big-name, deep-pocket players?

Doubtful.

I look for them to end up a division of someone else. Ford or VW are my picks.

[Phoenix520]

The short answer: No

The long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

[Flatpoint High]

Twitter stock continues to tumble -

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[raison de arizona]

I was just looking at a 4-month graph of the stock price, they went over 300. Now that graph is going to need a bigger Y-axis soon to take them under 100 if the trend continues. I feel like it's been a Wizard of Oz moment, where the curtain is pulled back and reveals a clueless Elmo.

[Gregg]

I was just looking at a 4-month graph of the stock price, they went over 300. Now that graph is going to need a bigger Y-axis soon to take them under 100 if the trend continues. I feel like it's been a Wizard of Oz moment, where the curtain is pulled back and reveals a clueless Elmo.

The stock is worth $20 as best we can tell here in the bunker.

[Foggy]

Oh, admit it, you got outvoted by the sausage doggies. You don't think it's worth that much.

They're the cutest. I'd let 'em outvote me, too also.

[Gregg]

Oh, admit it, you got outvoted by the sausage doggies. You don't think it's worth that much.

They're the cutest. I'd let 'em outvote me, too also.

I remember not too long ago when Elmo was bragging about producing 5,000 cars in one month and thinking Ford can do that on a Tuesday.

And make a profit on every one of them, something Elmo had not yet done once. But Tesla is worth, accoding to the market, more than 10 times what Ford is even now, and at one time was worth 10 times what the rest of the automotive OEM industry combined was.

The stock is driven by the same fever and people as crytpto and for many of the same irrational reasons. Since he started showing how brilliant he is running Twitter, he's losing some of the cult of personality and he might crash his car company along with his media company.

[Shizzle Popped]

[p0rtia]

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[Frater I*I]

he might crash his car company along with his media company.

I'm failing to see a downside here....

[RTH10260]

Tesla behind eight-vehicle crash was in ‘full self-driving’ mode, says driver
San Francisco crash is the latest in a series of accidents blamed on Tesla technology, which is facing regulatory scrutiny

Edward Helmore in New York
Thu 22 Dec 2022 14.06 GMT

The driver of a 2021 Tesla Model S told California authorities the vehicle was in “full self-driving mode” when the technology malfunctioned, causing an eight-vehicle crash on the San Francisco Bay bridge last month.

The crash on Thanksgiving Day resulted in two juveniles being transported to hospital and led to lengthy delays on the bridge. The incident was made public in a police report on Wednesday.

It is the latest in a series of accidents blamed on Tesla technology. The electric automaker’s chief executive, Elon Musk, has heavily promoted “Full Self-Driving” (FSD) software, sold as $15,000 add-on to Tesla vehicles, but it faces legal, regulatory and public scrutiny.

After the San Francisco accident, the driver told police the FSD software malfunctioned.

The police report said the vehicle was traveling at 55mph when it shifted lane but braked abruptly, slowing the car to about 20mph. That led to another vehicle hitting the Tesla and a chain reaction of crashes, according to Reuters.

However, police were unable to determine if the software was in operation or that the driver’s account was accurate. The report was made public after a records request.

The crash occurred hours after Musk said Tesla would make FSD software available to anyone in North America who requested it. It previously offered the system only to drivers with high safety scores.

The police report said that if FSD malfunctioned, the driver should have manually taken control. Tesla has repeatedly said its advanced self-driving technology requires “active driver supervision” and its vehicles “are not autonomous”.

Drivers are also warned when they install FSD that it “may do the wrong thing at the worst time”.





https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... -francisco

[pipistrelle]

I wouldn't use it on a bridge.

(I don't drive.)

[Suranis]

This Episode of "Knight Rider" sucks. KITT isn't cool anymore.

[Sam the Centipede]

Tesla behind eight-vehicle crash was in ‘full self-driving’ mode, says driver
San Francisco crash is the latest in a series of accidents blamed on Tesla technology, which is facing regulatory scrutiny

Edward Helmore in New York
Thu 22 Dec 2022 14.06 GMT

Drivers are also warned when they install FSD that it “may do the wrong thing at the worst time”.

Not only when they install FSD but also DJT, EM and over the pond VP in Ru, ET (or LT?) in UK.

DJT and ET/LT have been uninstalled, VP and EM are heading for crashes.

[keith]

Tesla behind eight-vehicle crash was in ‘full self-driving’ mode, says driver
San Francisco crash is the latest in a series of accidents blamed on Tesla technology, which is facing regulatory scrutiny

Edward Helmore in New York
Thu 22 Dec 2022 14.06 GMT

Drivers are also warned when they install FSD that it “may do the wrong thing at the worst time”.

Not only when they install FSD but also DJT, EM and over the pond VP in Ru, ET (or LT?) in UK.

DJT and ET/LT have been uninstalled, VP and EM are heading for crashes.

You are hereby cited for excessive use of indecipherable 2la. All IAU must be TLA.

[Foggy]

Well, I know what "DJT has been uninstalled" means.

It means we voted the bastid out, in 2020.

[Kriselda Gray]

DJT and ET/LT have been uninstalled, VP and EM are heading for crashes.

I figured out th4 rest, but who is EM?

[Azastan]

DJT and ET/LT have been uninstalled, VP and EM are heading for crashes.

I figured out th4 rest, but who is EM?

Elon Musk.

[Kriselda Gray]

DJT and ET/LT have been uninstalled, VP and EM are heading for crashes.

I figured out th4 rest, but who is EM?

Elon Musk.

[Flatpoint High]

https://www.theinsaneapp.com/2022/12/tw ... eaked.html
Excerpt:

In what is being called the biggest Twitter data breach, 400 million Twitter users’ data was put up for sale online. This news comes one day after the Irish Data Protection Commission announced that it was investigating a previous Twitter data breach that had affected more than 5.4 million people. The breach occurred in November.

The hacker posted a sample data file on one of the hacker forums to prove the authenticity of the data. The following data is included in the sample: name, email, username, number of followers, creation date, and, in certain cases, phone number.

[Foggy]

The breach occurred in November.

Oh.

[Foggy]

Excellent way to kick off the week between Christmas and New Year's.

[Suranis]

Wow... Do I have to look back in this thread for news of Musky gutting the security team? No, we all know its there.

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