There are a few ways, the most common I've seen is they write up a declaration like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/komj0rxj3axpl ... 5.pdf?dl=0
Then they file it with the county clerk or registrar.
There are a few ways, the most common I've seen is they write up a declaration like this: https://www.dropbox.com/s/komj0rxj3axpl ... 5.pdf?dl=0
——————-Dave from down under wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:56 pm If not from a scam site, then they probably just made it up.
I can find the URL of an Australian reformed sovcit if that is of help. He has articles on how he stopped being a sovcit
Well, this is a Shro'dingers Cat (RIP) video starring a guy who believes he cannot he arrested because he copyrighted his name, and a cop who is having none of it.MaryContrary wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:58 pm Does anyone remember where sovcits would register their names to try to claim copyright?
I was trying to explain to someone about this and I honestly can’t remember exactly how the idiots did it. Then how they would try to say that court cases against them were no longer valid because they used their name or something. Ending, of course, in a bazillion million dollar windfall lawsuit.
How I am forgetting sovcit details I will never know. I think I may have found a person in the mist of turning sovcit.
Thanks all and hope you are doing well
David Merrill Van Pelt (I shudder that uttering his name may summon him) wrote, at length, about the procedure, importance, methods and what not of filing more garbage than I can list in this lifetime with your local county "evidence register" or, the county clerk.MaryContrary wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:25 pm——————-Dave from down under wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 2:56 pm If not from a scam site, then they probably just made it up.
I can find the URL of an Australian reformed sovcit if that is of help. He has articles on how he stopped being a sovcit
For some reason I feel like US sovcits tried to register their name in South Dakota or something. I can’t even remember which idiot sovcit was pushing this either. I feel like douchette was one of them. So many sovcits so little time. Lol
Ernie Tertelgte I think.MaryContrary wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:44 pm I found something in the “old Fogbow” under tertagejdjdjf (I can’t remember how to spell his name. That ‘living man’ guy. He registered his in Minnesota. Minnesota =\= South Dakota in the least. Sorta close.
My memory of this is also a little fuzzy, but I'll give it a shot.MaryContrary wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 1:58 pm Does anyone remember where sovcits would register their names to try to claim copyright?
I was trying to explain to someone about this and I honestly can’t remember exactly how the idiots did it. Then how they would try to say that court cases against them were no longer valid because they used their name or something. Ending, of course, in a bazillion million dollar windfall lawsuit.
How I am forgetting sovcit details I will never know. I think I may have found a person in the mist of turning sovcit.
Thanks all and hope you are doing well
Sovcits (and other self-important egotists) never learn that you never, ever argue the law with the arresting office. Even if it turns out you are right about the law covering your offense, you may find yourself facing a resisting arrest or obstruction of justice charge.
My only response is "Hello Mary, good to see post again"MaryContrary wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:44 pm I found something in the “old Fogbow” under tertagejdjdjf (I can’t remember how to spell his name. That ‘living man’ guy. He registered his in Minnesota. Minnesota =\= South Dakota in the least. Sorta close.
That’s his name! By the time I switched from old Foggy’s back over here I completely forgot. Switching screens apparently reboots my brainArthurwankspittle wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 4:27 amErnie Tertelgte I think.MaryContrary wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:44 pm I found something in the “old Fogbow” under tertagejdjdjf (I can’t remember how to spell his name. That ‘living man’ guy. He registered his in Minnesota. Minnesota =\= South Dakota in the least. Sorta close.
Hello to you! I’m still here from time to time. Haven’t had much to input but I’m always lurking about.northland10 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:31 pmMy only response is "Hello Mary, good to see post again"MaryContrary wrote: ↑Sun Dec 04, 2022 3:44 pm I found something in the “old Fogbow” under tertagejdjdjf (I can’t remember how to spell his name. That ‘living man’ guy. He registered his in Minnesota. Minnesota =\= South Dakota in the least. Sorta close.
This infection is getting worse.Experts have warned about the violent potential of Australians expressing anti-government sentiment and espousing sovereign citizen ideology, as Queensland police flag an investigation into the Wieambilla shooters’ online activity.
On Tuesday, Queensland Police commissioner Katarina Carroll told the ABC that police are looking into the web history of Gareth and Nathaniel Train, the two gunmen who killed three people, including two police officers, on a remote property in Queensland’s Western Downs.
An online user who went by the name “Gareth Train” was an active participant in Australian fringe conspiracy forums and websites. The account had frequently posted paranoid, bizarre comments that showed anti-vaccine, anti-government and anti-police views.
For more on this story, see the 'Another Shooting' thread.Resume18 wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 6:35 pm Aussie Sovcits murder two cops.
https://www.crikey.com.au/2022/12/14/qu ... n-citizen/This infection is getting worse.Experts have warned about the violent potential of Australians expressing anti-government sentiment and espousing sovereign citizen ideology, as Queensland police flag an investigation into the Wieambilla shooters’ online activity.
On Tuesday, Queensland Police commissioner Katarina Carroll told the ABC that police are looking into the web history of Gareth and Nathaniel Train, the two gunmen who killed three people, including two police officers, on a remote property in Queensland’s Western Downs.
An online user who went by the name “Gareth Train” was an active participant in Australian fringe conspiracy forums and websites. The account had frequently posted paranoid, bizarre comments that showed anti-vaccine, anti-government and anti-police views.
No violation of 4 Para Rule cuz of one sentence paragraphs.Moorish Americans take over a rural gun range, sparking a strange showdown
WELCOME, Md. — The complaints about the property on Fire Tower Road were urgent but not too far out of the ordinary in this rural stretch of Southern Maryland: Earsplitting gunfire, endangered cows, a stray bullet that pierced a neighbor’s equipment shed.
But that was before the would-be heirs to a mythical North African empire moved in, claiming their dominion extends not only over the lost island of Atlantis but also over five acres in Charles County.
The episode began when gun enthusiasts started getting together on Sundays for target practice at the wooded property of 64-year-old Byron Bell.
As the gatherings grew bigger, along with the caliber of weapons and the number of rounds discharged, they drew the ire of neighbors even in this sparsely populated and gun-friendly area.
Yet it was after county officials took action, deeming the site an unlawful firing range and filing an injunction to stop it from operating in September, that events took several unexpected turns. That was when a group calling itself Moorish Americans — an offshoot of the extremist “sovereign citizen” movement whose members believe they are immune from dealings with U.S. legal and financial systems — essentially took over the range, declaring it “protected under the consular jurisdiction of Morocco.”
There followed arrests, flurries of spurious legal documents and hundreds of thousands of dollars in fines, all to the accompaniment of what neighbors describe as an ongoing din of gunfire on weekends. Things escalated last week when sheriff’s deputies raided the property, seizing what Bell said were about a dozen firearms.
And increasingly, sovereign citizen legal tactics have found their way into cases related to the Jan. 6 Capitol attack. At least 11 defendants have deployed what experts describe as sovereign citizen talking points, either during their arrests, their trials, or even after pleading guilty.
“The sovereign citizen ideology is essentially that ‘You don’t have power over me, you don’t have control of me. The law doesn’t apply to me. The government is nonexistent,’” Christine Sarteschi, an associate professor of social work and criminology at Chatham University told The Daily Beast. “And if they could, they would essentially like to overthrow the government.”
In court, she has claimed divine immunity from laws. “I do not stand under the law,” Bauer told a judge last year. “Under Genesis 1, God gave man dominion over the law.”
Strange though the argument was, it wasn’t Bauer’s invention. She learned it from Bobby Lawrence, a Pennsylvania man who’s built a following by preaching a fantasy legal theory that he describes as “American state nationalism.”
Like many orbiters of the sovereign citizen world, Lawrence insists his teachings are not related to the sovereign movement. “By and large everyone equates us to sovereign citizens,” he told The Daily Beast. “That’s how the public looks at it. They don’t realize there’s a difference between a national and a city-zen. City-zen. Municipal public servant. Break down the word: city, zen, ship. Municipal servant in admiralty.”
Etymology
Middle English citizein, from Anglo-French citezein, alteration of citeien, from cité city.
First Known Use
14th century, in the meaning defined at sense 2:
2: an inhabitant of a city or town
especially : one entitled to the rights and privileges of a freeman
The last time I fell on a boat I said "ow" too.Tiredretiredlawyer wrote: ↑Thu Dec 29, 2022 10:11 am "City, zen, ship" invokes admiralty according to the "Not a sovereign citizen" above.
How does that affect fellowship, companionship, sportsmanship, presidentship, censorship?