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Shirley, Fox execs are struggling with this. They have to know the ship is sinking. They bailed water for six years, but it's just not working anymore. At some point they have to man the lifeboats.
I thought it was 8 Eastern, or maybe I’m the
There's that, and the realization is sinking in that Trump's actions may have severely compromised intelligence assets around the world and damaged our relationships with allies and our national safety. Do Republicans really want to go to the mat defending compromising our national security?Shirley, Fox execs are struggling with this. They have to know the ship is sinking. They bailed water for six years, but it's just not working anymore. At some point they have to man the lifeboats.
I’ve been wondering if they were going to make the 8pm ET deadline, or at 7:45pm file an emergency petition for moar time.
A Klayman Special.
I still practice military law, but I'm no longer on active duty (and haven't been for quite some time). I don't have anything to add to the discussion other than to say that I think it's as bad, or potentially as bad, as everyone is saying. I mean, shit's classified for a reason, even if you don't like the reason (looking at you, Manning, Winner, Snowden, and Ellsberg).SuzieC wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:20 pmThere's that, and the realization is sinking in that Trump's actions may have severely compromised intelligence assets around the world and damaged our relationships with allies and our national safety. Do Republicans really want to go to the mat defending compromising our national security?Shirley, Fox execs are struggling with this. They have to know the ship is sinking. They bailed water for six years, but it's just not working anymore. At some point they have to man the lifeboats.
Maybenaut, I don't know whether you are currently a military attorney but I know that you have a military background. What do your military contacts think about all this?
But you weren't an ignorant cult member who is sure to demand to see it, because "how do we know it's that bad? COVERUP!"Maybenaut wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:10 pm
I've only handled a few cases in the military dealing with classified material, and the government was very savvy about dealing with it in a way that the content of the material didn't matter to the outcome of the case, so they never had to put it in evidence, and in fact I never saw it.
There are many people (on the bird site especially) who are calling the photograph "staged." Like seriously, earnestly, and unironically.pipistrelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:19 pm No one thinks that’s how the FBI found it. It’s staged for a documenting photo. He’s thinking up weaker and more pitiful distractions from his crimes.
And when cops do a drug bust all the cash & contraband is neatly laid out at the perp’s house.pipistrelle wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:19 pm No one thinks that’s how the FBI found it. It’s staged for a documenting photo. He’s thinking up weaker and more pitiful distractions from his crimes.
The horrifying part of all of this (well, one of many) ... I live in the super conservative and really rural southwest corner of Minnesota. I know many people (well, not "many" we are rural after all) who stopped watching Fox after the 2020 election. Folks around here think Fox went soft two years ago and many of them don't watch it so Fox turning on Trump won't have the impact that many never-Trumpers hope it will. They're down the qanon trail, following Mike Lindell and positive that Trump should be president. The number of flags I see when driving around that say things like "Biden for prison" or "Trump won" or "Trump greatest president ever" is both astonishing and awful. Even my next door neighbor thinks the FBI had no business going into Trump's home and believes that the "deep state" exists and that democrats are going to destroy America.SuzieC wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 5:20 pmThere's that, and the realization is sinking in that Trump's actions may have severely compromised intelligence assets around the world and damaged our relationships with allies and our national safety. Do Republicans really want to go to the mat defending compromising our national security?Shirley, Fox execs are struggling with this. They have to know the ship is sinking. They bailed water for six years, but it's just not working anymore. At some point they have to man the lifeboats.
Maybenaut, I don't know whether you are currently a military attorney but I know that you have a military background. What do your military contacts think about all this?
I can’t help but think TeamTrump was overwhelmed last night, I don’t think they expected what they got.Dave from down under wrote: ↑Wed Aug 31, 2022 6:16 pm 1 hr 45 min to see how, if at all, Donnie’s lawyers respond.
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