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Supposedly breitbart got it too.
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I am reading on Twitter that Trump released a copy of the search warrant with the FBI agents' names unredacted. It went to Breitbart.
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Gee I wonder why exactly. He wants his followers to start targeting the agents.Reality Check wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:34 pm I am reading on Twitter that Trump released a copy of the search warrant with the FBI agents' names unredacted. It went to Breitbart.
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Did they find anything regarding Romana Didulo (or the death cert and/or bones of QEII)???????
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As a lifelong knee-jerk urban leftist weenie, I have built an opinion, over the years, regarding the FBI. And while I think it's stupid, dangerous, and wrong to target individual agents, I cannot say that I'm experiencing a lot of sympathy for the organization. They have a very well-deserved reputation for dishonesty and fake evidence. I express no opinion about the agents in this incident, but it's going to be a rainy day in Hell before I trust the FBI.
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i bet they found Melania’s Dildo, does that count?mojosapien wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:40 pm Did they find anything regarding Romana Didulo (or the death cert and/or bones of QEII)???????
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Espionage Act, honestly?
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Espionage Act, honestly?
My day just got a little brighter.
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https://twitter. com/emptywheel/status/1558160747020132353
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N/M, I should have refreshed the threadBoom.
The former President is under investigation for 793.
(And obstruction).
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The splashiest ticket being the Espionage Act (18 USC sec. 793).
The curious one being falsification/obstruction (18 USC sec. 1519).
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18 U.S. Code § 793 - Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
It's long, here's the text: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
It's long, here's the text: https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
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Well, I hope there turns out to be a lot of independently developed information, outside of the FBI investigation. Perhaps even corroborating evidence from foreign countries.Foggy wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:45 pm As a lifelong knee-jerk urban leftist weenie, I have built an opinion, over the years, regarding the FBI. And while I think it's stupid, dangerous, and wrong to target individual agents, I cannot say that I'm experiencing a lot of sympathy for the organization. They have a very well-deserved reputation for dishonesty and fake evidence. I express no opinion about the agents in this incident, but it's going to be a rainy day in Hell before I trust the FBI.
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Of course, it would take a two-thirds vote in the Senate to convic-- ...
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As to how he got the documents, probably something to do with the stooges he put in the Pentagon after he lost the election.
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18 U.S.C. 793 - Espionage Act. That's for willful/grossly negligent removal of information relating to the national defense.
18 U.S.C. 2017 and 18 U.S.C. 1519 - that's for concealing federal records.
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Breitbart used their names in their story as well.
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One of my sisters worked for the IRS as an agent. Her husband was an IRS Special Agent in the Criminal Investigation division. He was armed and knew how to use his weapon (and yes, he had an MBA).
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These are much serious crimes than the jan 6 investigation. Can we just compound everything together?bob wrote: ↑Fri Aug 12, 2022 2:49 pm
The splashiest ticket being the Espionage Act (18 USC sec. 793).
The curious one being falsification/obstruction (18 USC sec. 1519).
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BREITBART has live updates.
BREITBART Updates: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2022 ... lago-raid/UPDATE 2:25 p.m. ET:
Attachment B to the warrant delineates the three statutes which agents are pursuing evidence under. They are: 18 U.S.C. § § 793, 2071, and 1519.
UPDATE 2:34 p.m. ET:
Attachment A to the warrant delineates where the agents can search and where they cannot at Mar-a-Lago. Specifically, it says that agents could search the “45 Office,” and “all storage rooms, and all other rooms or areas within the premises used or available to be used by” the former President of the United States [the document uses the abbreviation FPOTUS] “and his staff and in which boxes or documents could be stored, including all structures or buildings on the estate.” This attachment does however said agents are not authorized to search areas “currently (i.e., at the time of the search) being occupied, rented, or used by third parties (such as Mar-a-Lago members) and not otherwise used or available to be used by FPOTUS and his staff, such as private guest suites.”
UPDATE 2:37 p.m. ET:
Further fleshing out Attachment B, which contains the most information about the goals and intent of the DOJ and FBI at this stage of any document short of the as-of-now-still-unavailable affidavit, what it does is list three criminal statutes under which items are to be searched and seized. They are: 18 U.S.C. section 793, which deals with defense information; 18 U.S.C. section 1519, which deals with destroying federal documents; and 18 U.S.C. section 2071, which deals with concealing, removing, or damaging federal documents. The first statute is the one that has likely provoked media speculation about so-called “nuclear” documents: it applies to a broad range of defense “information,” from code books to ordinary photographs.
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