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Dave at Sea wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:09 pm “Asylum Avenue”.....
You caught that, too. ;)


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neonzx wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:14 pm
Dave at Sea wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:09 pm “Asylum Avenue”.....
You caught that, too. ;)
I grew up in a neighborhood called "Asylum Heights" on the plat maps. It was named for the insane asylum at what eventually became the largest hospital in the state. Now they're spending millions digging up and trying to identify all the patients who were buried on the grounds, most in unmarked (and sometimes, mass) graves. Every time they build another parking garage or health-related school they find more bodies.


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Sugar Magnolia wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 5:59 pm
neonzx wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:14 pm
Dave at Sea wrote: Thu Jul 30, 2020 4:09 pm “Asylum Avenue”.....
You caught that, too. ;)
I grew up in a neighborhood called "Asylum Heights" on the plat maps. It was named for the insane asylum at what eventually became the largest hospital in the state. Now they're spending millions digging up and trying to identify all the patients who were buried on the grounds, most in unmarked (and sometimes, mass) graves. Every time they build another parking garage or health-related school they find more bodies.
Sadly, for many Americans, asylum means crazy house... or a prop in a horror film. The word means protection, immunity, safety and shelter. It's what many who come to our borders seek.


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Trent has a website I never saw before. Probably everyone else did. It is stupid.
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He seems normal. :sarcasm:
Derrick Gonzalez was live.

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I have a patent on my Alaska property but there are secret liens now against done without my consent or knowledge. They do whatever they want these days. Since I'm not allowed in Alaska I can't fight them. There is no lawful system in place. I have Allodial title on my Missouri land.
Also Trent says he bought a house.
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Derrick Gonzalez I just bought a house. They started keeping records in 1900 but my house was there before it. It has "1900" status with the assessor which I have been told is "grandfathered" in as far as not needing permits for improvements. Traffic court is a piece of cake for me too which is why I never gift them with my presence I just would love to hear your words. I have some very smart friends too, but I like to promote them.


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The BBC's definitive explanation. :smoking:

"What is the 'sovereign citizen' movement?":
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53654318


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My definition:

0ne of a number of delusional selfish boils on the body public.


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Dave at Sea wrote: Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:56 am My definition:

0ne of a number of delusional selfish boils on the body public.
I like that by the way. Really covers it nicely.

I had wondered when the good old tied and failed many many times land patent scam would reappear,


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Because the kooks can always be counted on to co-opt a movement, we now have...
Moors Lives Matter.
Plans to paint “Moors Lives Matter” on the streets surrounding the Courthouse on the Square in the next week will move forward without city approval, Denton activist Queen Janata Montgomery told the Denton City Council during Tuesday night’s meeting.

Montgomery was scheduled to speak to request permission to paint “Black Lives Matter” on the four city streets surrounding the historic courthouse downtown, but amended her request.

Montgomery said “Moors Lives Matter” would be painted instead “because the Moors are the heirs and the owners of everything,” referencing what she said was a 1976 court case mandating that African Americans be reinstated as “Moorish Americans.”

“The Queen will not be subjected or conform to any rules, regulations, policies or procedures to be able to speak before the city of Denton about painting all four streets surrounding the Denton County courthouse of downtown Denton ‘Moors Lives Matter’ or about any other matters going forward,” Montgomery said. “Arrangements will be made immediately to paint the streets within five days of the commenced day of Aug. 18, 2020.”
https://dentonrc.com/news/denton/activi ... 91c2b.html


I've heard this bull before.
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DejaMoo wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 5:19 pm Because the kooks can always be counted on to co-opt a movement, we now have...
Moors Lives Matter.
Plans to paint “Moors Lives Matter” on the streets surrounding the Courthouse on the Square in the next week will move forward without city approval, Denton activist Queen Janata Montgomery told the Denton City Council during Tuesday night’s meeting.

Montgomery was scheduled to speak to request permission to paint “Black Lives Matter” on the four city streets surrounding the historic courthouse downtown, but amended her request.

Montgomery said “Moors Lives Matter” would be painted instead “because the Moors are the heirs and the owners of everything,” referencing what she said was a 1976 court case mandating that African Americans be reinstated as “Moorish Americans.”

“The Queen will not be subjected or conform to any rules, regulations, policies or procedures to be able to speak before the city of Denton about painting all four streets surrounding the Denton County courthouse of downtown Denton ‘Moors Lives Matter’ or about any other matters going forward,” Montgomery said. “Arrangements will be made immediately to paint the streets within five days of the commenced day of Aug. 18, 2020.”
https://dentonrc.com/news/denton/activi ... 91c2b.html
Well she swore she'd do it within 5 days and apparently hasn't, extra fail-y.


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:rolleye:


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Has there even been a fake Moor victim of unnecessary police violence? I can't recall one.

I just recall lots of videos of them being evicted, stopped for traffic violations and given the slow build-up to the busted window climax.


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boots wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 9:01 pm Has there even been a fake Moor victim of unnecessary police violence? I can't recall one.

I just recall lots of videos of them being evicted, stopped for traffic violations and given the slow build-up to the busted window climax.
Well, I guess within their mythology ALL PoC in the US are Moores, with the rest of demographic simply being too sheep like to know it, thus crimes against PoC in general are _really_ crimes against them and their sovereignty.


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scirreeve wrote: Sun Aug 02, 2020 1:17 am Trent has a website I never saw before. Probably everyone else did. It is stupid.
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http://authorityid.org/
So he goes to the trouble of designing his own id card supposedly showing "divine authority" and it has an expiration date on it? :rotflmao:


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https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-08- ... l/12603772

A self-proclaimed sovereign citizen accused of deliberately coughing on a woman in a Melbourne cafe has been granted bail.

Key points:

The cafe's owner offered Mandy Crerar a mask but she allegedly refused and began screaming
She was released from jail on a $5,000 surety and must abide by strict conditions
The magistrate said coughing would normally be a low-level offence, but not in a pandemic


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These "Moorish" idiots think they get special treatment because the United States made a treaty with them. They should go to an Native American reservation and ask how that worked out for them.


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Dave at Sea wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 10:40 am https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2020-08- ... l/12603772

A self-proclaimed sovereign citizen accused of deliberately coughing on a woman in a Melbourne cafe has been granted bail.
I see she also fabricated a rape accusation. Nice lady.


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TheNewSaint wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 12:15 pm These "Moorish" idiots think they get special treatment because the United States made a treaty with them. They should go to an Native American reservation and ask how that worked out for them.
Yet oddly, the closest thing I can figure is their mystical "treaty" from 1787 (well 1786 since the other does not exist) is the Moroccan-American Treaty of Friendship. The only problem with that one is that it basically covers commerce and admiralty law.

https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bar1786t.asp

I have not read up on the whole Moorish Science Temple beliefs (they are pre-SovCit theology) but I still wonder how they get moors out of all of Africa. Moorish is up in the northwest and not the areas where the English slave trade was most common.


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This 2017 decision by the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals provides some insights (Moor or less) into the Moorish misfits, as well as being a bit entertaining.
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USC ... 1589-0.pdf


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Curmudgeon wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 2:50 pm This 2017 decision by the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals provides some insights (Moor or less) into the Moorish misfits, as well as being a bit entertaining.
https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USC ... 1589-0.pdf
7th Circuit wrote:...we emphasize, in the hope of staving off future such frivolous litigation...
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

That panel has quite a sense of humor.


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We've discussed Rick van Thiel upthread: viewtopic.php?f=26&t=2312&p=700653&hilit=van+thiel#p700653

‘Licensed to Kill’ Covers Unnerving Tale of Unlicensed Doc
Sovereign citizen Rick Van Thiel carried out medical procedures he learned how to do on YouTube on countless victims.
https://www.legalreader.com/licensed-to ... ensed-doc/
Rick Van Thiel, a sovereign citizen and self-proclaimed naturopathic, lured many patients to his rundown trailer in Las Vegas, claiming to be a medical doctor. He treated everything from cancer to HIV and STIs, often using ozone therapy, which is supposed to clean patient’s blood. What Van Thiel’s patients didn’t know was the ‘doctor’ was unlicensed to practice medicine and had learned everything he knew from watching YouTube videos. Van Thiel’s patients were often searching out alternative therapies after more traditional treatments didn’t work. They found him on Craigslist and other listing sites.

An investigation into Van Thiel’s practice began after Las Vegas police received a tip from the Nevada Department of Health and Human Services. He had been accused of conducting unlicensed medical procedures out of his his trailer, treating everything from cancer to STIs and even performing abortions. He had a criminal record, and police were already familiar with his name, which had been tied to shootings and other violent felonies.

“I am not only gonna do it without a shirt, I’m gonna do it without pants either,” Van Thiel said in one video, while in another, a patient can be heard screaming in pain as the unlicensed doc attempted to remove a cyst.

The investigative team obtained a search warrant for the trailer and premises and realized the situation was far worse than they initially thought.

“As soon as I stepped into the trailer, I realized that we were above and beyond what we thought we were going to encounter. The danger and exposure to blood borne pathogens, disease pathogens was so visceral, it was like the movie ‘Saw,’” Det. Ken said.
:snippity:
“We regularly encountered victims that said that he performed these procedures while naked. He regularly offered female patients sex in exchange for treatment. There were several items of evidence that indicated while he was treating female patients, he was engaged in sexual activity with these patients,” Det. Ken said.

In light of all of the evidence, new charges were later added, and the defendant was ultimately charged with 29 counts associated with the unlawful practice of medicine, sexual assault, sexual assault resulting in substantial bodily harm, and child abuse and neglect. The case was brought before a grand jury, and his trial was set for early 2018, but Van Thiel hung himself in his detention cell.
:snippity:
“Licensed to Kill” on the Oxygen channel recently covered the story.


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Evidently Rick was found dead, hanging in his cell, 2017 He claimed that he wouldn't make his next court appearance due to a medical condition that he had. I guess the condition was 'crazy'.
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DejaMoo wrote: Thu Aug 27, 2020 4:31 pm We've discussed Rick van Thiel upthread: viewtopic.php?f=26&t=2312&p=700653&hilit=van+thiel#p700653

‘Licensed to Kill’ Covers Unnerving Tale of Unlicensed Doc
Sovereign citizen Rick Van Thiel carried out medical procedures he learned how to do on YouTube on countless victims.
https://www.legalreader.com/licensed-to ... ensed-doc/
Rick Van Thiel, a sovereign citizen and self-proclaimed naturopathic, lured many patients to his rundown trailer in Las Vegas, claiming to be a medical doctor. He treated everything from cancer to HIV and STIs, often using ozone therapy, which is supposed to clean patient’s blood. What Van Thiel’s patients didn’t know was the ‘doctor’ was unlicensed to practice medicine and had learned everything he knew from watching YouTube videos. Van Thiel’s patients were often searching out alternative therapies after more traditional treatments didn’t work. They found him on Craigslist and other listing sites.

An investigation into Van Thiel’s practice began after Las Vegas police received a tip from the Nevada Department of Health and Human Services. He had been accused of conducting unlicensed medical procedures out of his his trailer, treating everything from cancer to STIs and even performing abortions. He had a criminal record, and police were already familiar with his name, which had been tied to shootings and other violent felonies.

“I am not only gonna do it without a shirt, I’m gonna do it without pants either,” Van Thiel said in one video, while in another, a patient can be heard screaming in pain as the unlicensed doc attempted to remove a cyst.

The investigative team obtained a search warrant for the trailer and premises and realized the situation was far worse than they initially thought.

“As soon as I stepped into the trailer, I realized that we were above and beyond what we thought we were going to encounter. The danger and exposure to blood borne pathogens, disease pathogens was so visceral, it was like the movie ‘Saw,’” Det. Ken said.
:snippity:
“We regularly encountered victims that said that he performed these procedures while naked. He regularly offered female patients sex in exchange for treatment. There were several items of evidence that indicated while he was treating female patients, he was engaged in sexual activity with these patients,” Det. Ken said.

In light of all of the evidence, new charges were later added, and the defendant was ultimately charged with 29 counts associated with the unlawful practice of medicine, sexual assault, sexual assault resulting in substantial bodily harm, and child abuse and neglect. The case was brought before a grand jury, and his trial was set for early 2018, but Van Thiel hung himself in his detention cell.
:snippity:
“Licensed to Kill” on the Oxygen channel recently covered the story.
Thanks, downloading that episode now, should be amusing to watch later. So bizarre, I'd completely forgotten he was into the nekkid surgery-ing.


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Trent says he is being hacked - I doubt that this is true.
James Trent Goodbaudy

Every time I post this on my website it gets hacked.
Do you DRIVE?
Are you a DRIVER?
Is your car a MOTOR VEHICLE?
Have you BAILED your property to the DMV?
Take the test by answering the following
12 questions and determine for yourself:
Are you a “driver”? Do you “drive”? How can you tell?
The Vehicle Code of 1935.
“An act to establish a Vehicle Code, thereby consolidating and revising the law relating to vehicles and vehicular traffic, and to repeal certain acts and parts of acts specified herein.” (Stats. 1935, Ch.27, p. 93, in effect September 15, 1935).
The activity licensed by state DMVs and in connection with which individuals must submit personal information to the DMV- the operation of motor vehicles-is itself integrally related to interstate commerce.
…state activities integrally related to commerce, and acted within its sphere of power to afford “security * * * to the rights of the people” by preventing the States from releasing personal information that they require individuals to submit as a condition of engaging in activity – owning and operating a motor vehicle – that is integrally related to commerce generally…
JANET RENO, ATTORNEY GENERAL OF THE UNITED STATES, ET AL., PETITIONERS v. CHARLIE CONDON, ATTORNEY GENERAL FOR THE STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, ET AL.,
In the Supreme Court of the United States, (Jan. 12, 2000)
No. 98-1464 :snippity:
https://www.facebook.com/trent.goodbaud ... 6022917797


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scirreeve wrote: Fri Aug 28, 2020 1:54 am Trent says he is being hacked - I doubt that this is true.
He does seem like an easy target for hackers. They probably send their bots out looking for loons like him assuming they are more likely to have holes all over their website and personal accounts.


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