Hunter Biden - But His Emails! Gun Charge Indictment, Taxes, Hacking, Election Interference, Russian Ops - Jack Maxey

[tek]

"Hunter's Laptop" apparently contains Schrödinger's evidence.

Seriously, these cranks have had access to the "contents" of "Hunter BIden's Laptop" for years.. yet nothing ever manages to come of it.

[pjhimself]

"Hunter's Laptop" apparently contains Schrödinger's evidence.

Seriously, these cranks have had access to the "contents" of "Hunter BIden's Laptop" for years.. yet nothing ever manages to come of it.

Precisely.
The majority party (and administration) protects its own.
Congressional hearings rarely accomplish much (whichever party).
The electorate accepts this as “business as usual”.

Evidence isn’t proof but there does seem to be a lot of it.

[noblepa]

"Hunter's Laptop" apparently contains Schrödinger's evidence.

Seriously, these cranks have had access to the "contents" of "Hunter BIden's Laptop" for years.. yet nothing ever manages to come of it.

Precisely.
The majority party (and administration) protects its own.
Congressional hearings rarely accomplish much (whichever party).
The electorate accepts this as “business as usual”.

Evidence isn’t proof but there does seem to be a lot of it.

I have heard a lot of people SAY that there is a lot of evidence, but they never seem to get around to releasing it.

For that matter, I don't recall seeing any conclusive evidence that the laptop that allegedly belonged to Hunter Biden actually was his. AFAIK, all we have is the word of the computer repair shop owner, with no corroborating evidence, such as a work order signed by Hunter or a receipt by the repair shop to Hunter. Both of those items should be SOP when one leaves an expensive piece of equipment for repairs.

[Dave from down under]

Evidence..

who needs evidence???... when you have Fox!

[raison de arizona]

For that matter, I don't recall seeing any conclusive evidence that the laptop that allegedly belonged to Hunter Biden actually was his. AFAIK, all we have is the word of the computer repair shop owner, with no corroborating evidence, such as a work order signed by Hunter or a receipt by the repair shop to Hunter. Both of those items should be SOP when one leaves an expensive piece of equipment for repairs.

A legally blind computer repair shop owner, at that. That said, WaPo authenticated some of the emails, so it would appear that the hd is real. Sort of. Because of the chain of custody (repair shop guy copied hd before giving to fbi, repair shop guy gave copy to Rudy Giuliani, Giuliani gave copy to NY Post) there is still reason to doubt the veracity of every email. They authenticated like less than 1% iirc. That said, I believe one of the emails authenticated was the one the original NY Post article that started all this mess was based on. So that isn’t optimal.

[noblepa]

For that matter, I don't recall seeing any conclusive evidence that the laptop that allegedly belonged to Hunter Biden actually was his. AFAIK, all we have is the word of the computer repair shop owner, with no corroborating evidence, such as a work order signed by Hunter or a receipt by the repair shop to Hunter. Both of those items should be SOP when one leaves an expensive piece of equipment for repairs.

A legally blind computer repair shop owner, at that. That said, WaPo authenticated some of the emails, so it would appear that the hd is real. Sort of. Because of the chain of custody (repair shop guy copied hd before giving to fbi, repair shop guy gave copy to Rudy Giuliani, Giuliani gave copy to NY Post) there is still reason to doubt the veracity of every email. They authenticated like less than 1% iirc. That said, I believe one of the emails authenticated was the one the original NY Post article that started all this mess was based on. So that isn’t optimal.

I agree about the chain of custody issues.

The point is that, for all the breast-beating about the mountains of evidence, there has been precious little of it actually released. There's been an awful lot of talk about all the evidence, but the miniscule amount of "evidence" that has actually been released is ambiguous at best.

Its a lot like Mike Pillowforbrains constantly crowing about the earth-shaking proof he has that the election was stolen from TFG. He keeps saying he has it and it will change the course of history, but he never actually shows us any evidence.

[raison de arizona]

Benny Johnson is a RWNJ host on Newsmax, he has a decent following, 740k.

[keith]

Benny Johnson is a RWNJ host on Newsmax, he has a decent following, 740k.
https: // twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1546315211711422465

I judge that is faked.

Edited to put Biden in frame, then cut to another video altogether showing the purported coke.

Is this more of the Schrodinger's Evidence from the laptop?

[Lani]

Hunter wrote a book about his addiction. I guess the idiot who posted the alleged video about a coke deal didn't know that.

“Hunter Biden writes beautifully of almost unsurvivable loss, and the amazing grace of family love. His mom and dad, Jill and Joe; his baby sister and mommy, who died when he was young; his cherished daughters and the love of his life, Beau—they are all here, fully alive. He writes about growing up Biden, his marriages, his father’s years with Obama, his own successes and failures, his work with the World Food Program and Burisma, his visits to refugee camps and crack houses. He writes of his savage alcoholism and addiction with rare honesty, of his recovery with stunned gratitude, of broken hearts, resurrection, beautiful things.”
—Anne Lamott, New York Times bestselling author of Bird by Bird and Almost Everything

[RTH10260]

Secret Service Responds to Graphic Hunter Biden Photos, Videos

Diana Glebova
Mon, July 11, 2022 at 10:37 PM

The Secret Service confirmed Monday that it is aware of reports that the contents of Hunter Biden’s iCloud account were hacked over the weekend, exposing alleged texts, pictures, and videos of the president’s son doing drugs and engaging in other salacious and likely illegal activities.

4chan users claimed they hacked Biden’s phone late Saturday night, posting pictures to the website’s main political forum, according to the Washington Examiner. Many of the posts were taken down by the website.

The Secret Service said they are “aware” of the “social media posts and claims” about Biden, but are not in position to “make public comments on potential investigative actions,” in a statement to National Review.

One video purports to show Biden measuring the amount of crack he had while in conversation with a prostitute.

Another alleged video shows Biden going down a water slide naked, and texts allegedly revealed show Biden claiming that President Joe Biden was in possession of five guns in 2019, despite campaigning on gun control.

Many of the files posted by 4chan were already found on Biden’s abandoned laptop via an iPhone XS backup, according to the Washington Examiner.

Former Secret Service agent and cyber forensics expert Konstantinos “Gus” Dimitrelos previously told the outlet that the contents of the iPhone are authentic.

“Based on my analysis of the iPhone, I conclude the same results as my analysis of the MacBook Pro Laptop hard drive and iCloud synced data. The person who owns and operates this iPhone XS is Robert Hunter Biden,” Dimitrelos said, according to the outlet.

The abandoned laptop also previously revealed that the president knew about his son’s business dealing with China, despite repeatedly claiming that he has “never spoken” to him “about his overseas business dealings.”




https://www.yahoo.com/news/secret-respo ... 52983.html

[raison de arizona]

To be clear, the Yahoo News article quoted advice is actually from the National Review.

Here’s their front page fwiw:

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Also,

texts allegedly revealed show Biden claiming that President Joe Biden was in possession of five guns in 2019, despite campaigning on gun control.

They will be surprised to learn that many people that are in favor of gun control own guns. These things are far from mutually exclusive.

[Foggy]

I heard that Hunter Biden SOLD AMERICA TO SPACE ALIENS for a bazillion euros or maybe ameros.

NOW can we 'peach his daddy Joe?

It's okay, though, because we didn't sell the space lasers, so we can use that to take it back. It's okay to defraud and rob space aliens, right?

Well sure, what did Trump create Space Force for, if not to rape and pillage any space aliens we come across.

'Course, this is why we can't have nice things.

All the space aliens have faster-than-light travel, but they won't give it to us because who could ever trust an Earthling?

Nobody, that's who. Earthlings are stupid, dishonest, and insane. Have you seen Fox News?

Sad to say, we're not fit to join galactic civilization yet.

[Foggy]

Let's get the order of evidence straight:

FIRST somebody has to prove that there is a laptop that actually belonged to Hunter Biden, and that he left it at a repair shop of a legally blind person.

That's called "authenticating" evidence, and it has not been done in this case. At all. Even the shop owner refuses to swear that it was Hunter Biden.

AFTER you authenticate that the alleged laptop belonged to Hunter Biden, THEN you can talk about "chain of custody". WHO has the alleged laptop today? Who has had access to it over the years? How has it been protected from tampering during all the years it has been allegedly out of Hunter Biden's possession?

And if you can get solid evidence that 1) there is such a laptop, and 2) that it was actually Hunter Biden who gave it to the shop owner, and 3) that nobody has had an opportunity to tamper with the contents of the laptop,

THEN FINALLY you can start investigating what is actually on the actual laptop.

But that brings us back to the question: WHO has the laptop TODAY? And what does that person or organization say? Anybody can say "Hunter Biden's laptop contains X" and X is a bad thing. But where is the actual laptop? WHO has the laptop TODAY? Roodles claimed to have it for a while. Does anybody trust Roodles anymore?

On the bright side, nobody has even bothered to authenticate it, and several people have claimed to possess it who had both motive and opportunity to tamper with it, and the whole thing is such smelly bullshit that it's fit only for Fox News and its elk.



So when you hear "Hunter Biden's laptop" you know you're hearing industrial grade bullshit. There is no such thing.

[RTH10260]

It seems to me that the FBI may have the laptop, but the harddrive content has gotten a life of its own by copying several times. WaPo said that they once received a copy, they suggest some files match with other known documents of other origin, implying the remainder was not created in Russia.

[raison de arizona]

It seems to me that the FBI may have the laptop, but the harddrive content has gotten a life of its own by coping several times. WaPo said that they once received a copy, they suggest some files match with other known documents of other origin, implying the remainder was not created in Russia.

I'd hafta go look it up, but I'm pretty sure that WaPo claimed to have been able to authenticate in the neighborhood of 1k out of 126k files. Just to put some numbers to it. Doesn't make the remainder invalid necessarily, but...

[Foggy]

It seems to me that the FBI may have the laptop ...

Well that certainly doesn't answer the main question, WHO HAS THE LAPTOP TODAY?

We're talking about criminal prosecution of Hunter Biden, right? And here's a tip: You don't go to court with a criminal prosecution based on the POSSIBILITY that the FBI may have the actual evidence.

Jeazess H. Kreist. You know, I may have the laptop. The FBI may have the laptop. Roodles may have the laptop. The fucking Lord High Muckety-Muck of Zanzibar may have the laptop.

So far, you have no basis for saying anything at all about what's on the laptop. The FBI may have it, my ass.

... but the harddrive content has gotten a life of its own by coping several times. WaPo said that they once received a copy, they suggest some files match with other known documents of other origin, implying the remainder was not created in Russia.

And so ... ... I can't believe I'm even asking this, because it's so stupid ... ... so HOW MANY COPIES ARE THERE?

WHICH ONES ARE DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHERS? (Hint: you would have to gather all of them to determine this)
WHICH ONE HAS NOT BEEN TAMPERED WITH SINCE IT ALLEGEDLY LEFT HUNTER BIDEN'S POSSESSION? (Hint: Roodles tampered with his copy)
WHICH ONE IS SO WELL AUTHENTICATED AND HAS THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY PROVABLE, SUCH THAT THE LAPTOP COULD BE ADMITTED AS EVIDENCE IN A COURT OF LAW?

[Foggy]

So let's assume, just for fun, that it really was Hunter Biden and he really did leave his laptop with a legally blind repairman who can't say it was Hunter, but we're assuming it was him now.

So what did the repairman do with the laptop? Who did he give it to?

Hint for the challenged: He didn't give it directly to the FBI. Maybe somebody else gave a copy to the FBI. But if the repairman gave it directly to the FBI, what are the chances that the FBI started handing it around to every Tom, Dick, and Harry who works for Fox News? If the FBI gets it, NOBODY ELSE HAS A COPY.

So who did he give it to?

Even if you assume that the evidence could be authenticated, WHAT'S THE CHAIN OF CUSTODY?

Chain of custody is a serious evidentiary issue in any criminal trial based on possession of something illegal. If there's anything illegal on that laptop, WHO PUT IT THERE? And if you can't prove up the chain of custody, your criminal prosecution will be laughed out of court.

The FBI can't just say, we have this laptop and it belonged to Hunter Biden. They have to prove the chain of custody.

Otherwise, your only prosecution will be on Fox News, which is a joke.

[RTH10260]

MAY beeing the keyword. i still believe that a laptop was handed to the FBI. But just cause they get an electronic gadget to play with does not mean they start an investigation, nobody accused the (former assumed) owner of anything. As at the time it was already known that copies of the harddrive were circulating, who guarantees the content on the unit the FBI received, did come from the blind guy, without a notarized and bloody fingerprinted daffydavid. The FBI might have contacted the Secret Service to check if any government documents were disclosed, at most. That said, it is still a mystery to me why a Biden would bring a laptop to some obscure third party shop for repair.

[raison de arizona]

Worth mentioning in this mess, is that the blind repair shop guy has stated that things he's seen being reported as being on the laptop, were not in fact on the laptop he had.

In other words, Mac Isaac says that he has seen claims about what the laptop contains that don’t actually reflect what he saw on the laptop at the outset. Or, presumably, sees now, as one of the few people that might still have an unlittered copy of its contents.

To what is he referring? It’s hard to say. It may include one of the more popular claims that has circulated on the right, alleging that the machine included evidence of criminal sexual activity by Hunter Biden. (This was alleged on-air by Tucker Carlson last year, without proof.) Or it may involve other claims entirely.

Here’s where The Washington Post’s discovery that folders were added becomes more important. We have evidence that the portable hard drive had something added to it both before and after the New York Post’s original story — and here’s Mac Isaac agreeing that some of what he’s seen presented as coming from the laptop was never on there. This is why provenance matters in journalistic investigations. Just because Rudy Giuliani says that material came from a hard drive is not reason to assume it did — particularly when he’s on-record as disparaging the idea that the material should be vetted before being reported on.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... leaked-it/

[Foggy]

Oh.

The repair shop owner says people are claiming things were on the laptop that were not on the laptop.

Golly, that is shocking.

Can you imagine? Maybe some Republican assholes are lying about what's on the laptop, is that even possible?

And being Republicans, they're too fucking stoopit to understand that you have to authenticate anything before you can think about using it as evidence.

Oh wait, they have no intention of using it as evidence in court. They're just going to lie and lie and lie about it, and some people are apparently also so stoopit they're believing the stoopit lies.

Which is kind of the point. The dumbest third of the population probably thinks -- based on their inability to evaluate evidence -- that there's a laptop belonging to Hunter Biden with criminal information on it, and the sleaziest 1% of the population is making bank off those dummies.

Somebody tell Fox News.

Edit: Hay, maybe we should publish "Hunter Biden's Laptop For Dummies".

[noblepa]

Somebody tell Fox News.

They know.

[pipistrelle]

Hunter Biden news is like the ocean-it ebbs and flows depending on how bad the news is about J6.

[keith]

Let's get the order of evidence straight:


So when you hear "Hunter Biden's laptop" you know you're hearing industrial grade bullshit. There is no such thing.

[Foggy]

Yeah, but if Hunter Biden was in Ukraine committing misprision and political felony misconduct and running a massive pedophile ring when he was kidnapped by space aliens, then HOW could he legally sell America to the space aliens if HE WASN'T EVEN IN THE UNITED STATES at the time?

That's lack of jurisdiction-prudence AND a violation of the law against perpetuities, and I hate to say this, but they may be compelled to give it back.

'Course, then Hunter Biden has to get what's left of the bazillion dollars back from his daddy Joe, who prob'ly spent half of it on hookers and blow already.

You can't find this quality of expert analysis on CNN, kids.

[raison de arizona]

Federal investigators are reaching a critical decision point on whether or not to charge the President’s son, Hunter Biden @evanperez @KaraScannell discuss