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Those looney tune nutjobs. It's so easy to look up that facts, but they can't handle it when a facts are at odds with their deeply-held beliefs.
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Wait, was it a windy podium or a windy lectern? :think:
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Northland10 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:58 pm
The little known senator who gave a keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
He was a candidate for Senator when he spoke at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.

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Rondeau got another President's birthplace wrong? Well, color me shocked. :shock:

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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 5:07 pm
Rondeau got another President's birthplace wrong? Well, color me shocked.
Yet birthers continue to squeel glee over Chris "born in Indonesia" Matthews.

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Equally shocking that she knew.
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Grumpy Old Guy wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:03 pm
Northland10 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:58 pm
The little known senator who gave a keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
He was a candidate for Senator when he spoke at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
Yeah. I was quoting Rharon's "little-known Senator" statement. I moved to Illinois in September 2004, so I remember his campaign against Keyes.
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Northland10 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 6:11 pm
Grumpy Old Guy wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 4:03 pm
Northland10 wrote:
Fri Jan 24, 2020 12:58 pm
The little known senator who gave a keynote speech at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
He was a candidate for Senator when he spoke at the 2004 Democratic National Convention.
Yeah. I was quoting Rharon's "little-known Senator" statement. I moved to Illinois in September 2004, so I remember his campaign against Keyes.
I was not being snarky.

Anyway Rharon was half right, he was a State Senator. Obama’s profile jumped astronomically with that speech.

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Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:28 pm
Anyway Rharon was half right, he was a State Senator. Obama’s profile jumped astronomically with that speech.
Yeah, by the time he tossed his hat into the presidential ring, he was only little known to those who did not want to recognize a black man running for president.
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P&E comment:
Jonathan David Mooers wrote:Trump should be the one-voice, as the leading defender of the US Constitution, and all P&E contributors, and all “birthers” who have studied and believe that Obama II is a fraud worthy of jail time justice, should offer to UNDERSIGN ONE P&E ASSEMBLED DOCUMENT that goes to President Trump.

Why isn’t this happening?

P&E refusal? Fear of retaliation? Been done before? Or are we birthers mostly an army of armchair harpists who practice every day, but our music is ALL TALK and NO SHOCK?

Imagine if that one-document was signed by 3,000 birthers, or more, and publicly made its way to one-voice, President Trump, for review and comment…and executive action?

I’ll even compose that one-document and sign its final P&E-draft.

Well? Sharon?
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ooooooh, "Armchair Harpist" -- that's a huge burn. It should be set to the Tina Turner classic, "Private Dancer". :P

I'm sorry Foggy, Realist, Kate and Obots, but looks like the jig is up. We had a great run but Mooers may have finally outmaneuvered us. This simple and easy to execute plan and wee bit of homework below could spell DOOM for us.
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Robert Laity, thanks for the heads-up. Your previous front-line efforts, Robert and Sharon, plus the TV-exposed actions of Democriminal hoaxes, coups and frauds since 08-28-08, plus state-licensed attorney-criminal and FCC-licensed media-criminal and “US-COVERNMENT” cover-ups, all reinforce my firm belief that only, only, only Donald John Trump holds the Trump Card to fold the Democriminals’ subversive hand.
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How about this plan:

1. Email, write, send Obama-facts to President Trump to back him up before election 2020

2. After Trump is re-elected, send a copy of said previous petition, along with another up-dated one from The P&E, each signed by thousands of legal US citizens, US attorneys et al

3. Assembled words in Steps 1 and 2 remain ALL TALK and NO SHOCK, so, we must figure out what ACTION petitioners do to “force” Trump to play his TRUMP CARD to indict-prosecute-jail NANCY+BARRY+HILLARY+COMEY and 96 other fraud-coup-plotters since 08-28-08 (including Joke and Coke Biden)

Putting our collective taxes due in escrow, yet refusing to send them to our “US Covernment” UNTIL AFTER Trump jails The TOP 100 COUPSTERS, is the only peaceful ACTION I have come up with so far.

The AMERICAN REVOLUTION was sparked, in part, by Parliament’s forced taxation
The AMERICAN RENOVATION can possibly be sparked today by said proposed quid pro quo tax-release, wherein, Common Cents (formerly Paine’s Common Sense) is used to “force” Trump’s executive action to jail The TOP 100 COUPSTERS

Homework for The Homeland: Convince over 1,000,000 US taxpayers to escrow their quid pro quo tax dollars herein and peacefully put We the People back in charge of our tax-paid-for US Government
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Orlylicious wrote:
Tue Jan 28, 2020 9:38 pm
ooooooh, "Armchair Harpist" -- that's a huge burn. It should be set to the Tina Turner classic, "Private Dancer". :P
I'll work on it

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P&E: Is Another Qui Tam Action the Answer?

No; continuing:
DeMaio wrote:“THAT WAS THEN…AND NOW IS NOW”

The recent post by the intrepid P&E editor on the “eligibility” issue has generated a lot of comments from faithful P&E readers. This is a good thing, because despite all of the continuing efforts of the leftist/DNC mainstream media – and even some on the Fox/right side of the political spectrum – to ignore, trivialize and marginalize those who would dare to suggest that “the Emperor had no clothes,” the issue of Barack Hussein Obama Jr.’s failure to demonstrate his purported constitutional eligibility as being a “natural born Citizen”… just… won’t… die.

* * *

But returning to the point: some commenters have suggested that the way to bring the issue back into the national “front burner” spotlight and to trigger “action” instead of just “words about action” is to withhold or escrow tax dollars until President Trump agrees to take dispositive action against all the bad actors behind, among other defalcations, the eligibility fraud. Respectfully, that approach would have a better chance of success if the IRS were on board. Don’t hold your breath.

On the other hand, that comment got your faithful servant thinking: was there not a P&E post in the distant past where the intrepid editor interviewed one of the first challengers of BHO’s eligibility, an attorney (and a Democrat yet…), one Phillip Berg? Sure enough, back in 2010, this post appeared: https://www.thepostemail.com/2010/10/21 ... -saturday/. The interview included reference by Mr. Berg to a qui tam action he had filed, which action had been dismissed and with the dismissal affirmed by the D.C. Circuit Court of appeals shortly before the P&E interview.

[Looooong recap of Berg's fail. But, for the newbs: the federal government's decision to roundfile a qui tam claim is essentially unreviewable in court.]

But that was then – 2010 – and now is now – 2020. There is a new sheriff in town, one not afraid to call the “Deep State” by its true name, and an Attorney General whose surname is not “Holder” or “Napolitano” or “Lynch.” Moreover, the composition of the Supreme Court – now including Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh – would seem to be, at least “on paper,” more inclined to address, head-on, the still unanswered question of whether BHO usurped the office of the presidency because he was not a “natural born Citizen” as required by the Constitution.

Which brings us to the question: why not file a new qui tam action seeking to recover not [Obama's] salary while in that office or the cushy $3.3 million “transition needs” stipend he received when he left office, but instead to recoup his current pension and retirement benefits and terminate all future payments?

The main pension amount now set by federal law (3 U.S.C. § 102 note) is $210,700.00 annually. Granted, that is a lot less than Hunter Biden was being paid on the board of Burisma Holdings, but then again, even in retirement, BHO is probably doing more on a golf course than Biden ever did at Burisma other than provide access to his dad while he was Vice President under BHO. And, by the way, “standing” in the “relator” to bring the lawsuit is conferred by the statute itself. Sweet.

If BHO has usurped the office of the presidency, then he cannot lawfully be seen as entitled to the retirement benefits – taxpayer dollars – provided under federal law. As part of a qui tam action – assuming the current federal government would not file for a dismissal of the action, as did the Holder Justice Department, a matter still up in the air – the “relator” in the action could engage in “discovery” procedures. Specifically, the relator could depose Mr. (and Mrs.) Obama; pose interrogatories to them; request them to admit material facts; and – hot dang – demand the production of original documents bearing upon whether Monsieur Obama was actually born in Honolulu, Hawaii or elsewhere. This goes directly to the question of his “entitlement” to a federal pension at all: the pension is intended to benefit past presidents; it is not intended to benefit past usurpers.

Admittedly, there are a number of pitfalls to such a gambit, not the least of which would be finding a person or organization courageous enough and wealthy enough to do it. Another “issue” to be dealt with would be the “outrage” coming from Obots and the mainstream media appendage of the Democrat Party, screaming that there will be “blood in the streets.”

Yet another matter would be whether, in the polarized and hyper-toxic, even pre-civil war environment in which we now live, the Trump Administration would be prepared to “stand down” and allow the action to proceed or, as in the Obama/Holder years, file a “suggestion of dismissal.” If that were to happen, one might be tempted to treat it as the crowning act of the “Deep State-Lite.” Fortunately, these questions and issues do not need to be answered now. That which does need to be addressed is whether a proposal for another qui tam action of this nature makes sense to anyone. Like… Attorney General Barr… District Attorney Durham[*] … Jay Sekulow… Joe diGenova …. Donald J. Trump?

Anybody out there?
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Frivolous lawsuit against President Obama that will generate lots of publicity and as a bonus can name Hillary Clinton as liable for covering up the supposed fraud? There is only one lunatic attorney who would do that: Sekrit Stuffs!
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Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Thu Jan 30, 2020 4:23 pm
Frivolous lawsuit against President Obama that will generate lots of publicity and as a bonus can name Hillary Clinton as liable for covering up the supposed fraud? There is only one lunatic attorney who would do that: Sekrit Stuffs!
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I think if's back bone done been broked doing all the heavy lifting in that verbulous and utterly pointless screed.

I do think they should offer Orbly the chance since she deserves this last chance to publicly display her 'zibits and get discovery.

And we're back to the old tried and true of "repeating the same action over and over and over again expecting to get a different answer" that defines either insanity or stupidty. Birfers either or both.

All that bile, nastiness, frustration, and disappointment with his life is bleeding through and showing on his outside.
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P&E comments:
Megan C. Kemp wrote:All of these people quoted in the article are right-wing climate change deniers, especially this Tom Harris from the “International Climate Science Coalition.” . . .
Rondeau wrote:In the interest of true journalism, The Post & Email does not “advocate” for any position over another, but rather, publishes all points of view to allow the readers to make up their own minds.
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bob wrote:
Sun Feb 02, 2020 2:06 pm
P&E comments:
Megan C. Kemp wrote:All of these people quoted in the article are right-wing climate change deniers, especially this Tom Harris from the “International Climate Science Coalition.” . . .
Rondeau wrote:In the interest of true journalism, The Post & Email does not “advocate” for any position over another, but rather, publishes all points of view to allow the readers to make up their own minds.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:
True journalism doesn’t use scare quotes like the letter “e.” Just saying.

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P&E: YouTube Bans Videos on “Eligibility,” “Birtherism”:
IS OBAMA’S ELIGIBILITY A “CONSPIRACY THEORY?”
No (but his ineligibility is); continuing:
A widely-circulated article by Matt O’Brien of the Associated Press[*] published Monday reports that YouTube, which is owned by Google, has disallowed videos about “birtherism” in the months leading up to the 2020 presidential election.

“Better late than never, YouTube is making clear there will be no ‘birtherism’ on its platform during this year’s U.S. presidential election,” the article begins. “Nevermind that the conspiracy theory around former President Barack Obama’s citizenship emerged in 2008 and has not been a widespread issue since he last ran for president in 2012.”

[Usuail birther :yankyank: snipped. Followed by Cruz birthering, then Harris bithering, then Yang(!) birthering, and then Gabbard birthering.]

O’Brien’s article did not explain why Google deemed “eligibility” and “birtherism” objectionable.
It essentially did, actually:

* "For completeness": AP: YouTube: No ‘deepfakes’ or ‘birther’ videos in 2020 election:
Better late than never, YouTube is making clear there will be no “birtherism” on its platform during this year’s U.S. presidential election. Nevermind that the conspiracy theory around former President Barack Obama’s citizenship emerged in 2008 and has not been a widespread issue since he last ran for president in 2012.

The Google-owned video service is also reiterating that it won’t allow election-related “deepfake” videos and anything that aims to mislead viewers about voting procedures and how to participate in the 2020 census.

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Google also said Monday that it will remove any videos that advance false claims about whether political candidates and elected officials are eligible to serve in office. That had been policy before, but wasn’t made explicit.
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Gosh. This is like a meteor strike and tsunami in the heart of the tiny republic of Birferstan, what a disaster. Why isn't there a White House We The People petition and public demonstration at YouTube HQ yet? Are these people slipping?? Chuckles, you need to run more full page ads... and more Sheriff's Kits.

Foggy, what's The Fogbow's Official Position on this YouTube development? Should Realist and I be panicking?

Importantly, whose birther videos should we report first? Gallups? Taitz Report? :lol:

Chuckles issued a blistering statement:
YouTube Bans Videos on “Eligibility,” “Birtherism”

The above is a must read article by Sharon Rondeau at ThePostEmail.com. And the question that first popped in my mind when I saw this AP story in the Business Section of my local newspaper was … why now? First: Why is YouTube doing this now. Second: Why did the Associated Press decide to pump out a nationwide news story with Birtherism in the headline? In my opinion, the social engineers who manipulate public opinion are afraid of something going on in the background that is not being reported by the main stream media and are out and about on the eligibility and birther issues to try and keep the beach ball of persistent questions and the truth on those two issues suppressed and submerged below the water surface of public opinion. What is wrong about questioning the constitutional eligibility of a political candidate? What is happening to political free speech in our country?

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This Anderson Cooper video from 2012 features Dr. John Whitley, who uses Arpaio's "experts" as a reference which Anderson shoots down by correctly calling them a "volunteer posse". Looking for Dr. Whitley and some of these others now, seems they have dropped off the radar. Another candidate (there were a LOT from North Carolina, just sayin', Foggy) Birther Jim Pendergraph's Twitter just abruptly stopped in 2012. https://twitter.com/jimpendergraph?lang=en
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MAY 8, 2012, 4:44 PM

Yesterday, we noted that North Carolina has a disturbingly high number of Republican congressional candidates who have dabbled in bitherism, including Dr. John Whitley, who declared Obama’s birth certificate a “poorly reproduced forgery.” CNN host Anderson Cooper decided to challenge Whitley — a neurosurgeon who should certainly know better — but the candidate was unrepentant in an interview last night. Cooper poked holes in every one of Whitley’s claims, but the most the Republican would do is back off his claim that it was definitely a “forgery” to say that there were still serious questions about Obama’s birthplace. “I don’t think that the document…is an actual, legitimate copy,” he explained. Watch it:
Anderson is soooo cute :lovestruck:





SandyT went back to leave a comment on a 2010 interview with Chuckles https://www.thepostemail.com/2010/06/21 ... ent-384831 to ride that birther horse one more time. Remarkable she remembers de Vattel from 1958 as a junior, what an incredible memory! It must have really had a big effect on her.
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I’m 76 years old and a lifelong conservative Republican. I had Civics in the 1958-59 school year, as a sophomore in high school and American History in my junior year. We were taught that a natural born citizen was one born on U.S. soil to a citizen FATHER and a citizen mother. (Emerrich de Vattels’s “Law of Nations”) I also went to college for a couple of years before getting married, and that definition of natural born citizen was confirmed in college government classes. That was BEFORE Obama was born. I knew the first time he mentioned that his father was a Kenyan going to school here, that BHO was not a natural born citizen, even if he had been born in the White House! He was the biggest fraud ever perpetrated on the American people.
The Republican Party has shamelessly allowed ineligible people to run for the presidency also, since O has “gotten away with it”. In 2016, Ted Cruz was allowed to run, even though he had been born in Canada and his Cuban father didn’t become a U.S. citizen until 2005. Only his mother was a citizen. Marco Rubio and Bobby Jindal also ran for the R nomination in 2016. Both were born in the U.S., Marco in Miami and Bobby in Baton Rouge, but their respective parents were all foreign nationals, not citizens. Thankfully, they didn’t win the nomination. They are all good people, but NOT “natural born citizens”. Now, it is 2020 and there are three ineligible people running for the Democrat nomination, Kamala Harris (born in the U.S. to parents who were both foreign nationals, not citizens), Tulsi Gabbard, whose parents were both U.S. citizens, but she was born in American Samoa, which is an unorganized, unincorporated U.S. territory that does not grant U.S. citizenship to children born there. The last, I’m not that sure of the rules regarding U.S. embassy employees in other countries. Michael Bennet is running for the D nomination but was born in New Delhi, India. His citizen father was an aide to the Ambassador to India at the time. I don’t know if Michael was born at the embassy or in a hospital in New Delhi. The thing is, ALL candidates for the office of president or vice president should be, MUST be, fully vetted for constitutional eligibility, regardless of party or “how good they might be”. The Constitution is more important than any political party or candidate.
I’m a widow on Social Security and don’t have the money to file lawsuits, but I do post on every website or forum that mentions natural born citizen and have done that ever since O showed up in the public eye. If we don’t abide by the Constitution, we will lose the protections the Founders put into the Constitution, to keep those like Obama out of the Oval Office.
That interview with Chuckles and "Mrs. Rondeau" is hilarious, every stupid conspiracy theory disproven 10 years ago yet these deadenders still keep recycling. Gosh, remember kittykat? Whatever happened to her?
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Yes, a bunch of people were writing to senators, congressmen, etc., and this is what Citizen Wells’ “Hall of Shame” is about. http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/us-co ... -of-shame/

You know what I received back from my senator in TX, from John Cornyn, a stupid form letter that was worthless. A lot of people received the same thing. I know others who wrote to Cornyn received the same form letter as I did. Isn’t that something?
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I'm gonna spend the whole day tryin' to submerge a beach ball of questions under the water surface of public opinion. That can't be easy!
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SandyT conveniently remembers she learned in Civics class way back when that a natural born citizen was born of citizen parents yet like the other dozens of Birthers to claim this she doesn't have a copy of her Civics book around to verify that claim.
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Reality Check wrote:
Wed Feb 05, 2020 10:28 am
SandyT conveniently remembers she learned in Civics class way back when that a natural born citizen was born of citizen parents yet like the other dozens of Birthers to claim this she doesn't have a copy of her Civics book around to verify that claim.
And I'm betting she didn't even remember there was a NBC was until someone told her, either.
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Ob. P&E: What Next?:
Joseph DeMaio wrote:“DEEP STATE TREACHERY”

Now that the sad and extraordinarily sorry spectacle of the mono-partisan impeachment and removal effort against President Trump is finally over, it is prudent to pause and reflect upon what, exactly, has happened and what yet remains to be done. Rest assured, faithful P&E reader, the damage that the Democrat PIT (“Party of Intellectual Termites”) members have done to the Constitution; to the rule of law; to the American people and, if fact, to themselves, is deep and serious and will take years to heal. If not a generation or two.

* * *

It is far beyond ironic that this troika – yes, Virginia…, a Russian term – would seek to have President Trump “disqualified” and rendered forever “ineligible” to serve again as president when for the past dozen years, it has repeatedly – and proudly – ignored the actual constitutional ineligibility of one Barack Hussein Obama, Jr.

And by the way, why are we still paying a federal pension to a guy who likely usurped the presidency for eight years? Huh? Mr. Barr? Mr. Durham? Anyone home? As noted [previously], another qui tam action addressing BHO’s eligibility might be appropriate.
Relatedly, this P&E comment:
Bob68 wrote:I believe the media and all complicit in The Obama Fraud still believe President Trump is going to eventually fully reveal and act on The Obama Fraud. This belief is something which keeps me from losing hope…..,and keeps all complicit in Obama’s usurpation in a panic. It is concerning to the media who have covered for Obama’s ineligibility and identity fraud from the beginning………They cannot change now without losing whatever credibility they have left……..I believe what they see going on is the preparation of American citizens for the full release of the truth about Barry……………
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Re: The Post and Email

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Post by Foggy »

Wait, I'm supposed to be in a panic over birtherism still?

I must have missed a memo or sumpin'. I had no idea. :confused:
For more information, read it again.

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