You're right. I did wonder aloud why there hadn't been a coordinated protest inside one of the Hillbilly Nuremburg rallies. Then I did state my feelings that the organizations and groups chartered to protect against anti-semitism were less than effective. You got me.Mikedunford wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 3:21 pmFoggy, if this was Dmitry's first time at this particular rodeo, I'd be with you 100%. But it ain't.Foggy wrote: ↑Mon Oct 29, 2018 2:40 pmI don't know about DmitryNotPetra, but I'm not Jewish, much less a Jewish leader. If I tried to organize a mass protest against antisemitism, I don't think I'd have much success. Are you saying he should do that?
What if he lives in a rural area? What does he have to do to make him eligible to express his opinion that Jewish leaders should organize protests against antisemitsm? I'd like to see some major protests against antisemitism myself. I'd like to participate in something like that.
But I can't be the one to organize it. And marching all by myself doesn't seem productive.
There was also a prior thread where he heavily criticized the lack of counter-protests at right-wing rallies. So it's not just that it's the lack of protests against antisemitism that's bothering him, it's the absence of lots of other protests. Given that his displeasure at the lack of protests seems to be broad-spectrum, and not just restricted to this issue, I think the question about his own involvement is a fair one.
For clarity: He's absolutely eligible to express his opinion on who should be having protests, how many people should be attending protests, and so on regardless of his own participation in protests. I certainly wouldn't want to suggest otherwise, and his answer to my question would have no bearing on that. The question's not relevant to his right to express his opinion, but I think it is relevant to assessing his opinion.
You know, first I was accused of attacking the victim because I stated the lukewarm responses to institutionalized bigotry. Then I was interrogated about my own actions because of it. So, if I was a victim myself of anti-semitic attacks, wouldn't you be also attacking the victim? Spoiler alert: I have been a victim of anti-semitic attacks, online, in person verbally, in person physically. So there's that.
Anyway, this is rapidly becoming moot in this evolving news cycle, as now a sitting President of the United States has publicly threatened unarmed civilians with a military response, and we'll probably soon having an alt-right lovefest as immigrant children are shot dead by US soldiers, on US soil, in violation of just about every law we have on the books, and when that happens, I will again suggest the organizations chartered to fight against hatred and bigotry were less than effective when it mattered.
Boiling the frog as it were, Fox News can excuse the pipe bombs, calls for unity and peace and love and tolerance will drown out the lives lost in the synagogue, and when those uncensored pictures of Honduran children shot dead on US Soil get sent to you as a a meme, well, I'll just have to wonder what's next.