Prosecutors drop charges of professional motorboating against Stormy!

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Post by CJ Roberts » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:03 pm

I'm glad Avanetti is keeping us abreast of this story. Meanwhile, time to fiddle with a g string. :violin:


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Post by Suranis » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:11 pm

Foggy wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 11:41 am
All fixed. That makes it even more weird. :|
Dude, weird is the whole situation. She's wobbling her silicone for money. She doesn't care what you are as long as you have the cash. If you had enough money she would let you put one of your kittehs between them.

I'm not being judgemental, I'm just telling the truth as neutrally as possible.

The sad thing is that they think this lesbo shit will discredit her. It will probably just make her more popular and more money.


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Post by Notorial Dissent » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:20 pm

All I can say is seriously?????


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Post by MsDaisy » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:24 pm

Notorial Dissent wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:20 pm
All I can say is seriously?????
:yeah:

Don't all female porn stars have sex with other female porn stars? How would that be shocking to anyone?


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Post by DejaMoo » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:25 pm

Mikedunford wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:24 am
According to the article, the contact seems to have gone perhaps just a tiny bit beyond "letting someone touch her:"
When officers witnessed those activities, three detectives approached the stage. Daniels allegedly made her way toward two detectives, leaned over and grabbed their faces. She shoved each of their faces between her breasts, court documents said.

She fondled a third officer's buttocks and breasts, according to the documents, and then forced the officer's head between her breasts and smacked the officer's face with her breasts.
I've never been to a strip joint, but from everything I've read and heard over the years, that's fairly par for the course. It's not as if the performer is approaching people in the club; they're approaching the performer, usually with money in hand. And the performer gives them a little something personal for their money.

The majority of strippers don't get paid by the club. They're treated as independent contractors working for tips. So the admission charge doesn't go to the performer; only the tips, and that's why the people who tip get that little bit of up-close-and-personal in exchange.

There are exceptions: big stars like Stormy will also get paid to appear; locales that vigorously enforce a look-but-don't-touch rule (usually due to local laws) will warn the performer in advance not to permit contact, or, if limited contact is permissible, what they're allowed to do. It sounds like the venue didn't expect trouble from the cops because the cops had never enforced that law before; otherwise they would've certainly warned Stormy.

There used to be a wildly entertaining blog called Hobo Stripper by "Tara", a young woman who traveled the country working as an itinerant stripper while living in her van, which she'd converted into a cozy little home. She even foraged for wild food, and even canned stuff. It was a great combination of back-to-the-land/travel writing/stripper memoir.
Unfortunately, she took down her entries as she's a good writer and decided to get a book or two out of her experiences.



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Post by Suranis » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:33 pm

MsDaisy wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:24 pm
Don't all female porn stars have sex with other female porn stars? How would that be shocking to anyone?
Not all of them, or so I've read. If they are willing to they get paid more, but its actually up to the actress how far they want to push it. Stormy seems to be a "give me the Tips and do what you want with the Tits" kinda girl.
DejaMoo wrote:
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I've never been to a strip joint, but from everything I've read and heard over the years, that's fairly par for the course. It's not as if the performer is approaching people in the club; they're approaching the performer, usually with money in hand. And the performer gives them a little something personal for their money.

The majority of strippers don't get paid by the club. They're treated as independent contractors working for tips. So the admission charge doesn't go to the performer; only the tips, and that's why the people who tip get that little bit of up-close-and-personal in exchange.
In Lap Dancing Clubs in London the Girls have to pay the club to let them perform, so the money they make is the money they make from the punters getting their private dances. So they can reputably be very aggressive trying to get dances and money out of the Customers.

I've never seen the point in a Lapdance myself, honestly.


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Post by DejaMoo » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:53 pm

Suranis wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:33 pm
I've never seen the point in a Lapdance myself, honestly.
It's a quick and easy (but not necessarily cheaper) way to get one's rocks off. It's not uncommon for the customer to (handsfree) rub one out inside his pants while the dancer is rubbing on him.



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Post by Suranis » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:55 pm

DejaMoo wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:53 pm
It's a quick and easy (but not necessarily cheaper) way to get one's rocks off. It's not uncommon for the customer to (handsfree) rub one out inside his pants while the dancer is rubbing on him.
I guess that makes sense, ya.


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Post by scirreeve » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:58 pm

Case dismissed.



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Post by Slim Cognito » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:59 pm

I guess more concrete information as to who intitiated what is still come but it sounds kinda stingish to me.


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Post by Till Eulenspiegel » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:31 pm

Suranis wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:55 pm
DejaMoo wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:53 pm
It's a quick and easy (but not necessarily cheaper) way to get one's rocks off. It's not uncommon for the customer to (handsfree) rub one out inside his pants while the dancer is rubbing on him.
I guess that makes sense, ya.
A ticket for a crowded underground is much cheaper.


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Post by Notorial Dissent » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:39 pm

Well that lasted a long time, amazing, just amazing. :rotflmao:


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Post by bob » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:48 pm

According to the briefs (HA!) tweeted by Avenatti, the prosecutor reads the statute to require regular appearances, i.e., one-offs (HA!) by traveling strippers like Daniels aren't covered (HA!).

This seems to be a figleaf (HA!) designed to pack up the circus before it even unfurled its big pole (HA!).


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Post by Dan1100 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:48 pm

Suranis wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:33 pm
:snippity:
DejaMoo wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:25 pm
:snippity:
The majority of strippers don't get paid by the club. They're treated as independent contractors working for tips. So the admission charge doesn't go to the performer; only the tips, and that's why the people who tip get that little bit of up-close-and-personal in exchange.
In Lap Dancing Clubs in London the Girls have to pay the club to let them perform, so the money they make is the money they make from the punters getting their private dances. So they can reputably be very aggressive trying to get dances and money out of the Customers.
:snippity:
While I also have never been to a strip club and I have no idea where that glitter came from :eek2: , not only are most strippers independent contractors, but they have to pay a "tip out" to the club by the end of their shift and also have to give part of their tips to the bartenders and waitresses. Ones that don't make enough to pay their "tip out" are pretty quickly fired.


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Post by Slim Cognito » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:07 pm

Well, I've been to strip clubs (I'm female BTW) yet know nothing about how they get paid. I'm amazed how much people who have never been to one know about the subject.

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Post by Suranis » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:19 pm

To be honest, all my knowledge comes from when a big Lap dance Club owner opened a place in Dublin, and every Irish news organization was giving it free advertising by heading over to London, visiting his Clubs for "investigative reports" about how they operated. I can't even remember the guys name. Anyway the place only lasted a couple of months. Seems Irish men were too backward to join the happy British obsession with Tits.

I watch the world even if I don't participate much. I mean if you want to believe I'm full of shit and I had some young hottie twerking at me every day for a year, go ahead, no skin off my nose. All I can say is - I wish. :daydream:


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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:20 pm

scirreeve wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:58 pm
Case dismissed.
https:// twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/1017450331297533952
I am pleased to report that the charges against my client @stormydaniels have been dismissed in their entirety (below motion was just granted). I want to thank Joe Gibson & his colleagues at the prosecutors ofc for their professionalism starting with our first call early this am.

18:47 - 12 Jul 2018
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...the state does not have probable cause to proceed...



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Post by Foggy » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:45 pm

When I was a boy ... :-


I lived in a suburb of our nation's capital, named Bathysphere or something. And in the great state of Maryland, the drinking age was 21. Boo! Hiss!

Howsoever, if you were 18, and had a car (or had a friend who had a car)(I had a car), you could drive just a few miles down to the District on a Friday or Saturday night, where the drinking age was 18. And, as all-American red-blooded hormonally-controlled teenage boys, we naturally gravitated to the strip joints. Aka the College of Carnal Knowledge. The Institute of Higher Yearning.

But when I graduated high school, I drove to San Francisco to be a hippie for the rest of my life (that actually lasted a few years) and the drinking age was 21 and there was no way to escape it except to turn 21 years old.

But the last time I was in a strip club, I was delivering flowers, back when ol' Wifehorn and I owned the flower shop. We got an order to be delivered to Thee Doll House (with two Es) and I graciously volunteered to take it. (That's mine!)

Very sad place. I won't malign the ladies, but I came outta there appalled. :(


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Post by Sam the Centipede » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:47 pm

:o Have we found a topic -- the profession of strippery -- on which no Fogling claims to have any expert knowledge? :-D



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Post by neeneko » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:53 pm

Slim Cognito wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:07 pm
Well, I've been to strip clubs (I'm female BTW) yet know nothing about how they get paid. I'm amazed how much people who have never been to one know about the subject.
I wonder how much it has changed or how regional it was, but I got the impression that most people who went through grad school for poorly funded departments (not enough TA/GRA grants to go around) end up knowing at least a couple women who strip their way through their MA/PhD and thus get to hear at least a few stories and gripes about pay structure. Kinda like knowing at least one person who worked retail or fast food.. even if you have never done it, oh the stories....



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Post by neeneko » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:54 pm

Sam the Centipede wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:47 pm
:o Have we found a topic -- the profession of strippery -- on which no Fogling claims to have any expert knowledge? :-D
That.. actually kinda surprises me. Do we not have any (past or present) sex workers in the forum?



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Post by Jim » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:11 pm

neeneko wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:54 pm
That.. actually kinda surprises me. Do we not have any (past or present) sex workers in the forum?
Doesn't sound like we have many workers...but plenty of watchers. :-D



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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:17 pm

This is almost as big a victory for Avenatti as his $454 million jury verdict that got reduced to $21.7 million.



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Post by bob » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:58 pm

NBC:
Avenatti told NBC News on Thursday that Columbus Police Department had “a serious entrapment issue," and that he is exploring possible legal action against the department.
:thumbs: According to this NBC article, one of the involved officers previously had been accused of entrapment (for enticing a bar into serving a minor).

She canceled a second peformance that had been scheduled for Thursday night in Columbus.
Thanks, Obama.

Avenatti said Daniels has told him that multiple undercover officers, both male and female, initiated contact with her and asked her to touch them during her performance.

Daniels, 39, was taken into custody early Thursday morning by Columbus police, who said they had seen her forcing patrons' faces into her breasts during her show, and also smacking them in the face with her breasts. Cops said she did the same thing to several undercover vice officers, two of whom were women.
So the thread title continues to be inaccurate. ;)

(I would suggest: Prosecutors drop charges of professional motorboating against Stormy Daniels.)


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Post by pipistrelle » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:01 pm

Is that “forcing” with patron consent?



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