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Post by Terrastomp » Thu May 18, 2017 12:10 am

Lots coming out pointing to proof Pence knew all about Flynn long ago. Does he have his own topic elsewhere? When this administration falls, there are gonna be lots of casualties

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Post by Terrastomp » Thu May 18, 2017 12:12 am

Elijah Cummings sent him a letter in Nov 2016.


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Post by Patagoniagirl » Thu May 18, 2017 2:34 am

I am loving that this sanctimonious asshole, who can't be alone with a woman or dine alone with another woman without his wife just may be shone to be a lying piece of shit, exposed for knowing that Flynn had ties to Russia.

Ashes, Ashes, they all fall down.

Thank you for this thread.

Multiple edits because I need new glasses and autocorrect.

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Post by RVInit » Thu May 18, 2017 3:05 am

Yes, and McGahn, too. I can't help but think this guy should be in very deep shit. Isn't he supposed to be counsel for the "office" of the President, not loyal to the individual? I would think his head would roll along with the rest of them.

Shit, we may end up with President Ryan after all.
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Post by Patagoniagirl » Thu May 18, 2017 3:27 am

I can't put my finger in it but I think Ryan is in deep do do too. McConnell as well. His superpak took millions from Russia. I think the stink is wide and deep.

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Post by p0rtia » Thu May 18, 2017 3:48 am

Patagoniagirl wrote:I can't put my finger in it but I think Ryan is in deep do do too. McConnell as well. His superpak took millions from Russia. I think the stink is wide and deep.
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Post by Chilidog » Thu May 18, 2017 7:00 am

Patagoniagirl wrote:I can't put my finger in it but I think Ryan is in deep do do too. McConnell as well. His superpak took millions from Russia. I think the stink is wide and deep.

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Post by Patagoniagirl » Thu May 18, 2017 8:56 am

p0rtia wrote:
Patagoniagirl wrote:I can't put my finger in it but I think Ryan is in deep do do too. McConnell as well. His superpak took millions from Russia. I think the stink is wide and deep.
Lordy, woman what are you doing up at this hour? What am I doing up at this hour?

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Like trying to put your finger in a tornado! I am definitely stealing that!

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Post by Addie » Thu May 18, 2017 4:03 pm

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Pence stands by claim he didn't know about Flynn lobbying investigation

Vice President Mike Pence is standing by his March claim that he learned about Michael Flynn’s Turkish lobbying work through the media, even as a new report indicates Flynn informed the transition team in January that he was under federal investigation for not properly disclosing the paid work.

Pence, who ran President Donald Trump’s transition operation, had told Fox News on March 9 that “hearing that story today was the first I heard of it.” He repeated the claim about Flynn’s ties to Turkey later in the interview, and said the revelation affirmed Trump’s decision to fire the national security adviser.

“The Vice President stands by his comments in March upon first hearing the news regarding General Flynn's ties to Turkey and fully supports the President's decision to ask for General Flynn's resignation,” Pence’s office said in a statement to POLITICO on Thursday.

Still, Pence once again finds himself in an uncomfortable position: he either delivered a false statement in March, or was kept in the dark about critical information relating to one of the president’s most senior aides.
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Post by kate520 » Thu May 18, 2017 4:21 pm

Ashes, Ashes, they all fall down.
I'm stealing this one. :lol:
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Post by Mikedunford » Thu May 18, 2017 4:57 pm

Pence is quiet. He's in the background. And I'll bet $20 against half a jelly donut that he or his people are the ones who have been responsible for the bulk of the White House leaks that are driving the Trump people nuts.
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Post by RVInit » Thu May 18, 2017 8:16 pm

Letter from the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, signed by Elijah Cummings, to Mike Pence, dated November 18, 2016

https://democrats-oversight.house.gov/s ... 0Pence.pdf
Edit: Ooops! :bag: :oops: I just realized this is already copied on this thread. Sorry!
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Post by SLQ » Thu May 18, 2017 9:32 pm

I've seen some rumors swirling that the Trump team kept Pence and his staff in the dark about Flynn. Um, sure. Unfortunately, there's that pesky letter . . .

Edit: Here's a lot of "Pence didn't know nothin' " and a "source's" response to the Cumming letter:
Source: Pence Never Informed About Flynn

Vice President Mike Pence has been kept in the dark about former National Security Adviser Mike Flynn's alleged wrongdoing, according to a source close to the administration, who cited a potential "pattern" of not informing the vice president and calling it "malpractice or intentional, and either are unacceptable."
:snippity:
Asked about a letter from Rep. Elijah Cummings to Pence on November 18 that warned the transition team about Flynn's work for Turkey, the source asserted: "I'm not sure we saw the letter."'
This looks like some advance work by Pence's team, in preparation for Trump's demise.

More at the link: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politic ... op-n761916
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Post by pipistrelle » Thu May 18, 2017 10:10 pm

SLQ wrote:I've seen some rumors swirling that the Trump team kept Pence and his staff in the dark about Flynn. Um, sure. Unfortunately, there's that pesky letter . . .

Edit: Here's a lot of "Pence didn't know nothin' " and a "source's" response to the Cumming letter:
Source: Pence Never Informed About Flynn

Vice President Mike Pence has been kept in the dark about former National Security Adviser Mike Flynn's alleged wrongdoing, according to a source close to the administration, who cited a potential "pattern" of not informing the vice president and calling it "malpractice or intentional, and either are unacceptable."
:snippity:
Asked about a letter from Rep. Elijah Cummings to Pence on November 18 that warned the transition team about Flynn's work for Turkey, the source asserted: "I'm not sure we saw the letter."'
This looks like some advance work by Pence's team, in preparation for Trump's demise.

More at the link: http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politic ... op-n761916
I'm being dense. If Rep. Cummings suspected or knew, how could Pence not?

Edit: Trump for America, Inc. Code of Ethical Conduct? :cantlook:

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Post by SLQ » Thu May 18, 2017 10:16 pm

pipistrelle wrote:I'm being dense. If Rep. Cummings suspected or knew, how could Pence not?
Maybe if you speak in that hushed, whispered Preacher-Pence voice, you'll understand . . . ;)
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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Fri May 19, 2017 8:26 am

SLQ wrote:
pipistrelle wrote:I'm being dense. If Rep. Cummings suspected or knew, how could Pence not?
Maybe if you speak in that hushed, whispered Preacher-Pence voice, you'll understand . . . ;)
A "source" told me Pence's mannerisms mimic Ronald Reagan. She my source surmises he spent many an hour practicing in front of a mirror.
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Post by pipistrelle » Fri May 19, 2017 8:33 am

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote:
SLQ wrote:
pipistrelle wrote:I'm being dense. If Rep. Cummings suspected or knew, how could Pence not?
Maybe if you speak in that hushed, whispered Preacher-Pence voice, you'll understand . . . ;)
A "source" told me Pence's mannerisms mimic Ronald Reagan. She my source surmises he spent many an hour practicing in front of a mirror.
I assume your source is Mrs. Pence as he cannot and will not be alone with any other woman (for some reason).

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Post by Suranis » Fri May 19, 2017 8:43 am

In case his FILTHY LUST OVERWHELMS HIM!!!

Or HER FILTHY LUST OVERWHELMS HIM AND HE GETS A BJ IN THE ORAL OFFICE!!

Or, well, nothing happens.

To be fair, it does mean that he is totally scandal free, and no-one can accuse him of anything improper. Which is a good thing to foster in an American politician.

IN good Catholic Ireland, on the other hand, a PM can give his mistress an office beside him and a government job while Bill Clinton was getting impeached for it. See Bertie Ahearn and Celia Larkin.

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Post by Chilidog » Fri May 19, 2017 8:58 am

pipistrelle wrote:
Tiredretiredlawyer wrote:
SLQ wrote:
Maybe if you speak in that hushed, whispered Preacher-Pence voice, you'll understand . . . ;)
A "source" told me Pence's mannerisms mimic Ronald Reagan. She my source surmises he spent many an hour practicing in front of a mirror.
I assume your source is Mrs. Pence as he cannot and will not be alone with any other woman (for some reason).
And I bet he couldn't see her reflection behind him as he practiced.

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Post by kate520 » Fri May 19, 2017 11:02 am

Suranis :lol:

I don't think he's completely scandal free. Free from BJ scandals, maybe, because he gets off on power, not peccadillos. There's something about him that worries me. He's a punisher of people, an ideologue. He seems to have zero compassion for his fellow peeps, at least those who belong to a different church/class/race than he.

The new governor has been busy undoing some of Pence's damage to Indiana.
Pence also had rejected a request for a state disaster emergency declaration from the city of East Chicago in December. His office said at the time a declaration wasn’t needed because federal and state agencies were already addressing the situation.[lead in drinking water]

Holcomb's decision to change directions on those issues are the latest indication that his approach to governing may be more pragmatic and less ideological than that of his predecessor.

Last month, Holcomb said he supported local needle exchange programs to stop the spread of disease among drug abusers. Pence opposed giving local officials that ability. Holcomb has also said he supports tax increases as an option to pay for road work, which Pence opposed last year.
http://www.indystar.com/story/news/poli ... /97699694/


Indiana is much better off without him; we might be in deep doo doo if someone doesn't figure out his role in the Russia thing*.

Trump might blow up the world, but Pence would set the clock back to 1954.
As governor of Indiana, Pence signed the most abortion-restrictive regulations in the nation, banning abortion even in cases where the fetus has a “genetic abnormality” such as Down syndrome and holding doctors legally liable if they had knowingly performed such procedures. The law also required that aborted fetal tissue be buried or cremated. Following the Supreme Court’s decision in a landmark abortion case in June, a federal judge blocked the law from going into effect. He led the national fight to defund Planned Parenthood and forced so many of its clinics to close in Indiana that he triggered an H.I.V. epidemic in one county.

LGBT Rights

in 2015, Pence helped pass one of the nation’s harshest “religious freedom” laws that would have protected businesses who wanted to refuse service to LGBT people if they cited religious objections. After businesses pulled out of expansion plans into the state, Pence signed an amended version of the law that was nominally intended to provide protection for sexual orientation and gender identity.

As a congressman, he opposed federal funding that would support treatment for people suffering from H.I.V. and AIDS, unless the government simultaneously invested in programs to discourage people from engaging in same-sex relationships. He has resisted changes to hate-crime laws that would have included acts against lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender people. And he was against the end of “don’t ask, don’t tell,” a Clinton administration policy that allowed gays to serve in the military.

He has said publicly, “I long for the day that Roe v. Wade is sent to the ash heap of history.”

:snippity:

Campaign finance records from a 1990 run for Congress show that Pence, then 31, had used political donations to pay the mortgage on his house, his personal credit card bill, groceries, golf tournament fees and car payments for his wife.


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* (of course he's got something to hide. Alla them: 'It's NBFD, why can't we talk to Russia? You're thinking of the old Russia. These new Russians, they're such nice guys, they understand us, not like you buzzkills'. )
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Post by MsDaisy » Sat May 20, 2017 6:33 am

How long can Mike Pence play dumb?
As the Trump White House lurches from crisis to crisis, Mike Pence has a simple message: It wasn’t me.

Against the backdrop of constant White House scandal, Pence has cast himself either in the role of “victim” or “stabilizing” force. These efforts have recently become more public and more brazen.

Pence’s press secretary on Thursday, for example, promoted a story on Fox News declaring that Pence has taken “the lead” in advancing the White House agenda and describing him as “a stable presence during crisis.”

This position, however, is increasingly becoming untenable. Pence finds himself at the center of the most acute controversy facing the White House — the appointment of Michael Flynn as National Security Adviser.

http://thinkprogress.org/how-long-can-m ... f0cb50af08


Trump is a seriously vindictive asshole, if Pence tries to throw Trump under a bus for any reason I think things could get real ugly for him real fast. That could be real interesting to watch. :mrgreen:
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Post by pipistrelle » Sat May 20, 2017 7:09 am

Suranis wrote:In case his FILTHY LUST OVERWHELMS HIM!!!

Or HER FILTHY LUST OVERWHELMS HIM AND HE GETS A BJ IN THE ORAL OFFICE!!

Or, well, nothing happens.

To be fair, it does mean that he is totally scandal free, and no-one can accuse him of anything improper. Which is a good thing to foster in an American politician.

IN good Catholic Ireland, on the other hand, a PM can give his mistress an office beside him and a government job while Bill Clinton was getting impeached for it. See Bertie Ahearn and Celia Larkin.

(You might get the idea I hate Irish politics... )
Here's the thing: An adult secure in his/her marriage or relationship doesn't have to worry about FILTHY LUST and can handle hanging out with members of the opposite gender, like normal people.

As for being scandal free, this isn't scandal but as kate520 posted this morning from an article, he's not ethical, which is something Americans should find as or more concerning than something as personal as marital straying:
Campaign finance records from a 1990 run for Congress show that Pence, then 31, had used political donations to pay the mortgage on his house, his personal credit card bill, groceries, golf tournament fees and car payments for his wife.

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Post by pipistrelle » Sat May 20, 2017 7:12 am

Is Pence's Secret Service moniker "Deep Throat"?

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Politico Mag
President Mike Pence Would Be in for a World of Pain

If any political pundit has learned anything over the last year—which is doubtful—that lesson is never to write off Donald Trump, who has time and again shown a Road Runner-like resilience that has both surprised and just plain ticked off his critics. So the “I” word that is passing like a brisk wind in private conversations all over D.C. will not be mentioned herein.

But it does cause one to think. Suppose that for whatever reason Trump should cede the presidency to his vice president—say the president makes America great again ahead of schedule or alternatively decides he’s sick of the “witch hunts”—one might ask what kind of world and what unique challenges a President Mike Pence would face. The answer is, quite simply, a multitude. Indeed, with the possible exception of Gerald Ford, the able and experienced Pence would face the most difficult political and national security headwinds of any unelected commander-in-chief in America’s history. Of the nine men who have assumed the office unexpectedly, none has faced such a vicious political, media and cultural environment—an environment where even staunch Democrats like Dianne Feinstein are booed by supporters for not endorsing socialism and propelled by a frantic social media that turns every moment of the Trump presidency into “The Wire” meets “Game of Thrones.” In the face of these challenges, a President Pence would have to make a series of quick decisions that would set the tone for his administration, determine the prospects for his policy agenda and, not incidentally, decided his political future. Among them: ...

Dealing with the Trump factor: Pence would also have to decide what his stance would be toward former President Trump, whom Pence loyally supported through a multitude of crises. Does he pay great tribute to the Trump record, and claim a role in it? Does he denounce it? Or does he, in the most likely scenario, chart a path between those two extremes? In part, this decision depends on the manner of Trump’s departure, though it is safe to assume that Trump is unlikely ever to win widespread support from half of the nation even if he developed a cure for cancer, saved a littler of puppies from a burning house and revealed he’d been pulling a long con of Vladimir Putin that leads to Putin’s resignation in disgrace.

Pence would have to hold together a political party that did not win a majority of the popular vote and that is split between Trump haters, Trump defenders and the Trump-curious. At the same time, he’ll be faced with a number of Republican officeholders who would seriously contemplate a challenge to Pence in the next GOP primaries. Key an eye out, as most reporters will, for senators or governors holding fundraisers or booking events in places like Dubuque or Manchester.
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