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Re: Mueller's investigation

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Post by MsDaisy » Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:57 am

YaYa wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:27 pm
Florida Rep Matt Gaetz just threatened Cohen on Twitter :
That tweet has been deleted, but I copied the text before it disappeared :mrgreen: :

Matt Gaetz‏ Verified account @mattgaetz
Hey @MichaelCohen212 - Do your wife & father-in-law know about your girlfriends? Maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. I wonder if she’ll remain faithful when you’re in prison. She’s about to learn a lot...
4:12 PM - 26 Feb 2019
Birfers are toast

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Re: Mueller's investigation

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:13 am

Grumpy Old Guy wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:22 pm
As soon as Sibley intervened on his side, Miller should have seen that the game was up.
Now all he needs is Orbly to file an amicus and he has a trifecta of fail.
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Re: Mueller's investigation

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Post by Grumpy Old Guy » Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:39 am

Notorial Dissent wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:13 am
Grumpy Old Guy wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:22 pm
As soon as Sibley intervened on his side, Miller should have seen that the game was up.
Now all he needs is Orbly to file an amicus and he has a trifecta of fail.
Aren't you forgetting Larry Klayman?

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Re: Mueller's investigation

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Post by pipistrelle » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:02 pm

MsDaisy wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:57 am
YaYa wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:27 pm
Florida Rep Matt Gaetz just threatened Cohen on Twitter :
That tweet has been deleted, but I copied the text before it disappeared :mrgreen: :

Matt Gaetz‏ Verified account @mattgaetz
Hey @MichaelCohen212 - Do your wife & father-in-law know about your girlfriends? Maybe tonight would be a good time for that chat. I wonder if she’ll remain faithful when you’re in prison. She’s about to learn a lot...
4:12 PM - 26 Feb 2019
It was up for a long time. Lots of replies. Few positive.

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Re: Mueller's investigation

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:59 pm

Grumpy Old Guy wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 11:39 am
Notorial Dissent wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 8:13 am
Grumpy Old Guy wrote:
Tue Feb 26, 2019 4:22 pm
As soon as Sibley intervened on his side, Miller should have seen that the game was up.
Now all he needs is Orbly to file an amicus and he has a trifecta of fail.
Aren't you forgetting Larry Klayman?
GIL is an opportunist, the politest term I can come up with now, but that is about all, Orbly is a doom/legal disaster magnet though. Now Sibley, he would be a good addition since he has not to my knowledge attached himself to anything with a snowflake's chance.
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Re: Mueller's investigation

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Post by bob » Wed Feb 27, 2019 2:17 pm

Notorial Dissent wrote:
Wed Feb 27, 2019 12:59 pm
GIL is an opportunist, the politest term I can come up with now, but that is about all, Orbly is a doom/legal disaster magnet though. Now Sibley, he would be a good addition since he has not to my knowledge attached himself to anything with a snowflake's chance.
Of the three:

Klayman represents a client (Corsi) suing Mueller. Klayman's also circulating petitions, constantly griping, and generally grifting. Klayman would create the most sizzle (didja hear that faint praise?), but, if Santilli's to be believed, would keep the money for himself.

Sibley, despite no longer being an attorney, filed an amicus brief in the D.C. Cir. It was basically ignored and implicitly rejected. (The D.C. Cir. didn't even acknowledge it in its reasoning.) Action without accomplishment.

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Post by Chilidog » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:29 pm

Wouldn't it be perfectly awesome if a few more indictments were to drop tomorrow?

Say.. Beavis, or Jared?

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Post by much ado » Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:35 pm

Chilidog wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 1:29 pm
Wouldn't it be perfectly awesome if a few more indictments were to drop tomorrow?

Say.. Beavis, or Jared?
Well, it certainly seems to be getting time for that to happen. I don't see how Mueller can wrap up the investigation without a number of insiders/family members being indicted. Let us hope for the best.

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:03 pm

Agreed, I think it is time it got closer to home, and we should include the Trump Comptroller as well.
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Post by Somerset » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:06 pm

Notorial Dissent wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:03 pm
Agreed, I think it is time it got closer to home, and we should include the Trump Comptroller as well.
If you're referring to Allen Weisselberg, he was given limited immunity for his testimony. I'd gladly let him go in exchange for Beavis and/or Butthead ;)

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:10 pm

True, but all three would be nicer and more satisfying.
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Re: Mueller's investigation

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Post by Addie » Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:56 pm

Atlanta Journal Constitution
New clues as records confirm ‘mystery case’ involves Mueller probe

Verifying the reports of news organizations over the past few months, a federal judge in Washington, D.C. unsealed redacted court documents on Thursday which confirmed that a secret legal battle over a grand jury subpoena does involve the work of Special Counsel Robert Mueller, and the investigation of possible Russian interference in the 2016 election.

"The SCO is investigating foreign interference in the 2016 presidential election and potential collusion in those efforts by American citizens," wrote Judge Beryl A. Howell, who unsealed six different documents - with redactions - on the secret docket of this case, which involves an unnamed foreign company owned by an unidentified country.

The documents show that the Special Counsel's office issued a grand jury subpoena for information to the unknown company owned by "Country A" on July 11, 2018 - seeking records 'in the United States or abroad.'

"As many members of the media have speculated, and the parties are plainly aware, this case arises from Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigation," the judge wrote in one document. "Consequently, this case has attracted and continues to attract inordinate media attention."

The newly unsealed documents give no clues on what company - or what country - is involved in this litigation, which is now active in various ways at the district, appeals, and Supreme Court levels.

Buried in the details of the newly released documents - which are filled with repeated redactions of key information - the Special Counsel's office had asked for the unidentified company to be fined $10,000 per day for not turning over documents related to the subpoena.

But the judge decided that wasn't enough, and instead levied a $50,000 per day sanction, which began on January 15, 2019.
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Re: Mueller's investigation

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Post by Chilidog » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:01 pm

Notorial Dissent wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:03 pm
Agreed, I think it is time it got closer to home, and we should include the Trump Comptroller as well.
I so want to see him on the stand.

Though I suspect he will need to be granted immunity so he can't hide behind the 5th.

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Post by Somerset » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:07 pm

Chilidog wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:01 pm
Notorial Dissent wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:03 pm
Agreed, I think it is time it got closer to home, and we should include the Trump Comptroller as well.
I so want to see him on the stand.

Though I suspect he will need to be granted immunity so he can't hide behind the 5th.
https://www.nbcnews.com/card/trump-org- ... ay-n977231
Trump Org's Weisselberg not cooperating with feds, sources say

Cohen brought up Trump Organization Chief Financial Officer Allen Weisselberg several times when discussing the hush-money payments Cohen made to women who claim past affairs with Trump — affairs the president has repeatedly denied.

Weisselberg received immunity to testify before a federal grand jury in New York during the course of the investigation into the payments, The Wall Street Journal, NBC News and others reported last summer. Cohen pleaded guilty in August to tax and bank fraud as well as to campaign finance violations tied to those hush-money payments.

Some news outlets have suggested Weisselberg's testimony means he is cooperating with federal probes involving Cohen, the president and the Trump Organization. But three people with direct knowledge of the matter tell NBC News that Weisselberg is not cooperating, has never been a cooperating witness, and has provided limited details in the course of his testimony.

A person close to the Trump Organization tells NBC News that Weisselberg is still with the Trump Organization and defends Trump and the company.

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Post by Chilidog » Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:07 pm

Addie wrote:
Thu Feb 28, 2019 2:56 pm
But the judge decided that wasn't enough, and instead levied a $50,000 per day sanction, which began on January 15, 2019.
So we are at $2.2 million as of today.

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Re: Mueller's investigation

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Post by Addie » Sat Mar 02, 2019 11:56 am

The Atlantic - David A. Graham
Trump Aides Keep Writing Memos to Protect Themselves

Their urge to document the president's requests and interactions is justified by his behavior. ...


This is only the latest example of people around Trump feeling compelled to document events that disturb them for posterity’s sake: Kelly, McGahn, former FBI Director James Comey and Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, and former fixer Michael Cohen have all done it. The president’s lieutenants keep being asked to do things and witnessing things that they feel are wrong, unwise, or even illegal, and they are making sure there’s a contemporary record to protect them from political blowblack, legal exposure, or the president trying to throw them under the bus. That fear is not unfounded: Nearly everyone on this list has become a target of the president’s ire and attempts to shift blame. ...

After Comey was fired, McCabe became the acting director, and he promptly adopted his predecessor’s approach. “I wrote memos about my interactions with President Trump for the same reason that Comey did: to have a contemporaneous record of conversations with a person who cannot be trusted,” McCabe later wrote.

Of course, Comey and McCabe are different from the others: Neither of them was a Trump appointee, and Trump fired both of them, for reasons that range from legitimate to preposterous, depending on one’s interpretation. What is amazing is that Trump’s own appointees seem to have felt the same need to protect themselves.

That includes Kelly and McGahn. This is not the only case of McGahn making sure there was a written record on a controversial or contentious subject, either. The Times previously reported that Trump sought to prosecute both Comey and his 2016 presidential rival, Hillary Clinton. McGahn reportedly tried to convince him out of it. “To underscore his point, Mr. McGahn had White House lawyers write a memo for Mr. Trump warning that if he asked law enforcement to investigate his rivals, he could face a range of consequences, including possible impeachment,” the Times reported.

According to another recent story, one of the “crown jewels” of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation of the White House is the “exhaustive notes taken by Annie Donaldson, Mr. McGahn’s former chief of staff, which detailed in real time Mr. Trump’s behavior in the West Wing.”

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Post by Addie » Thu Mar 07, 2019 8:21 am

Cross posting
Reuters: Megaphones and more: Mueller details Russian U.S. election meddling
Adding:
New York Mag - Jonathan Chait: Mueller’s Case for Collusion: A Preview
CNN: DOJ appoints ex-Mueller prosecutor to run foreign influence unit

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Post by Kendra » Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:06 am

According to MSNBC, we're in for a wild week. Gates and Flynn have status update hearings. Stone has two this week with Judge Amy over his gag order, plus Manafort sentencing.

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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:25 pm

Kendra wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:06 am
According to MSNBC, we're in for a wild week. Gates and Flynn have status update hearings. Stone has two this week with Judge Amy over his gag order, plus Manafort sentencing.
A Kendra Alert!! Hooray!!!! Keep us posted!
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Post by Kendra » Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:37 pm

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 12:25 pm
Kendra wrote:
Sun Mar 10, 2019 10:06 am
According to MSNBC, we're in for a wild week. Gates and Flynn have status update hearings. Stone has two this week with Judge Amy over his gag order, plus Manafort sentencing.
A Kendra Alert!! Hooray!!!! Keep us posted!
It's going to be a :popcorn: week. I think Wilbur Ross goes under the congressional hearing hammer too?

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Re: Mueller's investigation

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Post by Addie » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:47 am

Daily Beast
Mueller May Drop Second Report That Can’t Be Buried

The special counsel isn’t only looking for crimes: he continues the counterintelligence investigation that started with suspicious Trump-Russia contacts in 2016.


Breathless media alerts notwithstanding, there is reason to be skeptical that Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s final report is imminent. There are just too many loose ends, including the just-begun Roger Stone prosecution and the not-yet-finished litigation over “Corporation A” and other grand jury witnesses, not to mention the glaring absence of any testimony yet from Donald Trump himself. There may certainly be signs the Mueller investigation is entering its final phases—just not this week.

Still, it’s clearly time to consider the shape of what Mueller will produce as he finishes. The reporting requirements of the special counsel regulations have been exhaustively picked over. What must Mueller report to the attorney general? What may the attorney general do with the report? Will Congress and the public ever see it? The ins and outs of the special counsel report regulations played a significant role in Attorney General William Barr’s January confirmation hearings.

But we may be focusing on the wrong report. There may in fact be two Mueller reports. This is because from the very beginning, Mueller has worn two hats and borne two missions relating to the Russia investigation.

The most public and familiar one is as a criminal investigator under the special counsel regulations. But Mueller has also carried a second charge, as a counterintelligence expert, with a much broader charge to determine and report the scope of any interference and any links to the Trump campaign—what Trump himself might refer to as “collusion.”

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Post by Orlylicious » Tue Mar 12, 2019 2:57 pm

Not sure where to put this but it's interesting... GOP Rep Doug Collins took it upon himself to just release the Lisa Page interview transcript. 200 pages, just started reading through it but it seems like she's a pro and her answers make sense. Not sure what Doug thinks is going to be revealing about releasing this, maybe I haven't gotten to the smoking gun yet, but so far seems like she and everybody there were doing their jobs. Mark Meadows and the GOP go around and around in circles. The first part deals with the Clinton email stuff and it's well explained by Page how complex the classification systems are when you're travelling worldwide with hundreds of staff, it was also 2009 when the systems were even worse. But if you're interested in the "gross negligence" vs "extremely careless" stuff, it's all explained.

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Post by Turtle » Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:52 pm

I think it's the Trump people starting rumors about the imminent release of Mueller's report. They have done it several times now. The press always runs with it.

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Post by Grumpy Old Guy » Tue Mar 12, 2019 4:21 pm

Turtle wrote:
Tue Mar 12, 2019 3:52 pm
I think it's the Trump people starting rumors about the imminent release of Mueller's report. They have done it several times now. The press always runs with it.
Wishful thinking perhaps.

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Re: Mueller's investigation

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Post by Addie » Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:24 pm

Reuters: Why an unbuilt Moscow Trump tower caught Mueller's attention
Bloomberg: Time’s Running Out in Michael Cohen’s Bid for a Reduced Prison Sentence

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