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WaPo Op Ed - Harry Litman
Trump’s obstruction of justice is far more extensive than Nixon’s

Now that a consensus is beginning to emerge that special counsel Robert S. Mueller III has the evidence to make a compelling case of obstruction of justice against President Trump, the president’s defenders have trotted out a new defense: that obstruction on its own is a mere “procedural crime” that doesn’t really count unless coupled with proof of guilt on an underlying crime.

In other words, defenders view the Mueller probe as akin to the Watergate investigation without the break-in. But this view is wholly untenable.

The legal version of the argument is, as explained by Rich Lowry in National Review, “if Trump didn’t collude with Russia — or doesn’t have some other criminal secret to hide — it’s hard to see what his corrupt intent would be in an obstruction case.”

First, the premise doesn’t hold water. We won’t know for some time what Mueller’s probe will uncover, but we already know that the Trump campaign had extensive contacts with Russians — The Post has reported more than 30 — and that Trump flatly lied in claiming there were none. More damning, the president himself insisted on drafting a false account of the famous June 9, 2016, meeting between a Kremlin-connected Russian lawyer and senior campaign members, including Donald Trump Jr.

But even if none of that were true, there are plenty of reasons a defendant plausibly could act with corrupt intent to scuttle an investigation that had yet to bear fruit. The defendant could fear political embarrassment; or liability for an associate or family member; or uncovering of other crimes, such as financial or tax violations; or exposure of civil liability.


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The video is in Russian,

Russia is Trying to Bury This Video—And They Might Shut Down YouTube to Do It
An investigation into a deputy prime minister, escorts, and a yacht sends regulators scrambling.
Last week, a 25-minute video published by Russian opposition activist Alexei Navalny alleging a new link between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign made headlinesaround the world. Now the Russian government wants it scrubbed from the internet—so much so that it is taking steps that could block millions of its own citizens from using YouTube or Instagram.

The video was released last Thursday, and accused Russian Deputy Prime Minister Sergey Prikhodko—a top foreign policy official—of having been a conduit between the Kremlin and Oleg Deripaska, an oligarch linked to the Trump campaign. In making his case, Navalny mined the autobiography and Instagram feeds of Nastya Rybka, a Russian model and escort who claims to be Deripaska’s mistress. Drawing on video and audio Rybka posted that captured her, Deripaska, and Prikhodko relaxing on a yacht while the two men discuss US-Russia relations, Navalny’s video alleges that Deripaska hosted Prikhodko for a secret meeting at sea in the company of several female escorts. Deripaska immediately denied the claim, and threatened to sue media outlets reporting on it, assailing the video as a “planned campaign aiming to damage my reputation.”

The day after the video’s publication, Deripaska won a court injunction requiring it—along with six other videos and 14 Instagram posts—to be taken down. The court, in Deripaska’s native Krasnodar region, found that the posts violated his right to privacy and ordered that they must come down.

As a result, Roskomnadzor—Russia’s communications regulator—added the YouTube videos and Instagram posts to its list of prohibited websites, giving internet providers until Wednesday to blacklist the URLs. But, as Russian news startup the Bell explains, many Russian internet providers don’t have the technical ability to selectively block particular URLs. To comply with the Roskomnadzor order, they’ll instead have to block access to YouTube and Instagram entirely—unless the owners of the offending posts opt to delete them independently.
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New York Times Reader Center: ‘An Extraordinary Moment’: Explaining the Russia Inquiry


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Post by RVInit » Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:47 pm

This is really interesting. If nothing else, listen in starting around minute 47 - there is a discussion about the weaponizing of certain emails that were released by Wikileaks - and how those emails were used in precisely the districts that gave Trump his win. I recommend listening to the whole thing, it's 1.5 hours, but well worth it. But at least listen where they start talking about how incredibly this haphazard campaign just happened to hone in on an email that was part of a huge dump by Wikileaks. It's obvious how closely the Trump campaign was working with Wikileaks.



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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Wed Feb 14, 2018 12:30 am

Cambridge Analytics and Jared Kushner. And the theft may also be a state crime.



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Post by neeneko » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:14 am

RVInit wrote:
Tue Feb 13, 2018 8:47 pm
It's obvious how closely the Trump campaign was working with Wikileaks.
Sometime down the road, I think it will be interesting when historians look back on wikileaks and run some alternative timelines. They have become such a fantastic example of how underestimating an opponent and attempting to crush them can backfire. In many ways it reminds me of one of the lessons learned from Pearl Harbor, where powerful men figured that their inferior opponent would lose the will to fight after a bloody nose or two, but instead doubled down and came back in force.

In this case, the State Dept and media outlets hated wikileaks for embarrassing them, and both figured the organization was inconsequential enough that it could be bashed and destroyed. Instead, in panic, it lead to the group running into the arms of anyone that could protect them and slowly became its own force to be reckoned with.

A few minor changes to history and wikileaks could have been a US tool, or it could have gone back to being a minor nuisance to institutions and businesses that were getting away with illegal or immoral activities. Instead, today, they shape US perceptions.



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Post by Addie » Wed Feb 14, 2018 6:15 pm

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White House reconstruction of days before Flynn firing turned over to Mueller: report

A White House document detailing the nearly three weeks leading up to former national security adviser Michael Flynn’s firing has been turned over to special counsel Robert Mueller’s team for review, The Washington Post reported Wednesday.

White House counsel Don McGahn reportedly put together a reconstruction of the 18 days between when he was warned Flynn was potentially a target for Russian blackmail and the day he was fired.

Former acting Attorney General Sally Yates told McGahn on Jan. 26, 2017, that Flynn had misled senior administration officials, including Vice President Pence, about his communications with Russians, and therefore was susceptible to blackmail.

Yates said she declined to answer when McGahn asked her if Flynn should be fired.

McGahn then conducted his own review to see if Flynn had acted illegally, and determined he had not. He later put together a document detailing the time between his meeting with Yates and Flynn’s ouster, which has since been given to Mueller’s team, The Washington Post reported.


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Wed Feb 14, 2018 7:41 pm

McGahn appears to be utterly incompetent.



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Post by Chilidog » Wed Feb 14, 2018 8:53 pm

In the Trump administration, that's a feature, not a bug



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Post by Addie » Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:31 pm

Business Insider
Trump asked the White House counsel to help convince Comey to publicly exonerate him

President Donald Trump asked the White House counsel, Donald McGahn, to call the Department of Justice last year and ask a senior official to persuade then-FBI director James Comey to publicly clear the president of wrongdoing in the Russia probe, The Washington Post reported.

McGahn subsequently called then-Deputy Acting Attorney General Dana Boente last April and asked him to convince Comey to exonerate Trump, but the request fell on deaf ears, according to The Post. Boente is now the FBI general counsel.

In addition to asking McGahn to contact the Justice Department about convincing Comey to exonerate him, Trump also personally appealed to Comey to do the same, and to let go of the bureau's investigation into former national security adviser Michael Flynn, on multiple occasions in early 2017. ...

The revelation of Trump's request to McGahn comes as special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russia's election interference gets ever closer to ensnaring the White House. In particular, Mueller is examining whether Trump sought to obstruct justice when he fired Comey last May, and Wednesday's report will likely contribute another piece of evidence to the special counsel's case against the president.
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Post by Foggy » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:18 am

If he's just incompetent and not fucking evil, then he's one of the best people in the White House.


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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:39 am

Addie wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:31 pm
Business Insider
Trump asked the White House counsel to help convince Comey to publicly exonerate him
:snippity: .
Must have irked Teh Donald to no end that he suddenly was in a position where other people opposed him and he could not fire them on the spot as within his TrumpOrg.



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Re: Mueller's investigation of Trump

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Post by MsDaisy » Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:27 am

RTH10260 wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 9:39 am
Addie wrote:
Wed Feb 14, 2018 9:31 pm
Business Insider
Trump asked the White House counsel to help convince Comey to publicly exonerate him
:snippity: .
Must have irked Teh Donald to no end that he suddenly was in a position where other people opposed him and he could not fire them on the spot as within his TrumpOrg.
I'm sure of that. A real in your face culture shock kind of thing he's probably never experienced :lol: I'm sure it was very uncomfortable for him and probably still is. In fact he doesn't seem very comfortable at all lately. And this frequent folded arm posture he's developed is not very becoming. Maybe that's just his little "selfie hug" to get him through all the boring stuff so he can get back to "Executive time" :roll:

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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:51 pm

MsDaisy wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:27 am
[I'm sure of that. A real in your face culture shock kind of thing he's probably never experienced :lol: I'm sure it was very uncomfortable for him and probably still is. In fact he doesn't seem very comfortable at all lately. And this frequent folded arm posture he's developed is not very becoming. Maybe that's just his little "selfie hug" to get him through all the boring stuff so he can get back to "Executive time" :roll:


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I have picked up from behavioural psychologists that folded arms are an involuntary signal of defense, not wnting to be exposed to something. In the meeting with his advisors he was obviously uncomfortable of getting schooled on a subject he didn'tunderstand. As so often I am once again scared that such pictures go around the globe and in various capitols the dotus gets profiled and his weaknesses evaluated.



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Post by Volkonski » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:36 pm

This could be big.


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NEW: Steve Bannon has been interviewed by special counsel Robert Mueller over multiple days this week, @NBCNews has learned from two sources familiar with the proceedings.
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Post by Addie » Thu Feb 15, 2018 2:51 pm

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Bannon interviewed by Mueller twice in past week: report

Two sources told NBC News that Bannon was interview by Mueller’s team for nearly 20 hours spread over multiple days in the past week.

Mueller’s team are investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election as well as potential ties between President Trump and Russia.

The former chief strategist was subpoenaed by Mueller last month and reportedly made a deal with the special counsel to not testify before a grand jury. ...

Mueller has now interviewed dozens of Trump associates and top current and former White House officials as part of his investigation. Four former Trump officials have been indicted, including former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort and former White House national security adviser Michael Flynn.


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Post by Kendra » Thu Feb 15, 2018 6:19 pm

CNN is reporting Gates is close to a plea deal and gave a wide ranging interview to special counsel.



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Exclusive: A top Trump campaign adviser close to plea deal with Mueller

(CNN) Former Trump campaign adviser Rick Gates is finalizing a plea deal with special counsel Robert Mueller's office, indicating he's poised to cooperate in the investigation, according to sources familiar with the case.

Gates has already spoken to Mueller's team about his case and has been in plea negotiations for about a month. He's had what criminal lawyers call a "Queen for a Day" interview, in which a defendant answers any questions from the prosecutors' team, including about his own case and other potential criminal activity he witnessed.

Gates' cooperation could be another building block for Mueller in a possible case against President Donald Trump or key members of his team.

Once a plea deal is in place, Gates would become the third known cooperator in Mueller's sprawling probe into Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. It would also increase the pressure to cooperate on Gates' co-defendant Paul Manafort, Trump's former campaign chairman, who has pleaded not guilty to Mueller's indictment and is preparing for a trial on alleged financial crimes unrelated to the campaign. Gates pleaded not guilty on October 30 alongside Manafort.


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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Thu Feb 15, 2018 7:25 pm



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Gates deal should scare the shit out of the WH. Quid pro quo on the platform change is my bet...

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Post by Addie » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:55 pm

CNBC
Russians indicted in special counsel Robert Mueller's probe

The special counsel's office said Friday that a federal grand jury indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities in the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 elections.

This story is developing. Please check back for updates.
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Bloomberg - Developing: U.S. Charges 13 Russians, 3 Companies for Hacking Election


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Post by Volkonski » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:56 pm

Addie wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:55 pm
CNBC
Russians indicted in special counsel Robert Mueller's probe

The special counsel's office said Friday that a federal grand jury indicted 13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities in the probe into Russian interference in the 2016 elections.

This story is developing. Please check back for updates.
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Post by Volkonski » Fri Feb 16, 2018 12:57 pm

The indictment says that the defendants allegedly, by early to mid 2016, were "supporting the presidential campaign of then-candidate Donald J. Trump ... and disparaging Hillary Clinton."

An announcement from special counsel Robert Mueller's office said that the government accuses all the defendants of conspiracy to defraud the United States. Three defendants are charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and bank fraud. Five defendants are charged with aggravated identity theft.


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