Trump's Trade Follicy

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Post by Kendra » Fri May 31, 2019 1:24 pm


I support President Trump's decision to impose tariffs on Mexico until they up their game to help us with our border disaster.

The illegal flows from Central America must stop and Mexico needs to do more.

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Post by tek » Fri May 31, 2019 1:27 pm

Even Grassley woke up from his nap long enough to say this is a bad idea.
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Post by Hurtzi » Fri May 31, 2019 3:07 pm

Kendra wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 1:24 pm

I support President Trump's decision to impose tariffs on Mexico until they up their game to help us with our border disaster.

The illegal flows from Central America must stop and Mexico needs to do more.
Since Trump allowed Graham to lick his balls LG will say just anything to please Trump.

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Post by Orlylicious » Fri May 31, 2019 3:13 pm

Seriously. John McCain was more of an moderating influence on Lindsey than we knew, now he's just letting his freak fly. But this charming eligible bachelor is NOT GAY!
Lindsey Graham: 'To the extent that it matters, I'm not gay'
By Jessica Chasmar - The Washington Times - Friday, October 12, 2018

Sen. Lindsey Graham on Friday quashed rumors of being gay after Chelsea Handler wrote a tweet mocking the single Republican as being closeted, which many critics deemed homophobic. Ms. Handler faced backlash Thursday after she tweeted: “If you’re wondering why Republicans took a sick day today, it’s probably because it’s #NationalComingOutDay. Looking at you @LindseyGrahamSC.”

Conservatives and members of the gay community accused the tweet of being “homophobic,” arguing that Ms. Handler was using sexual orientation as an insult. The comedian, an advocate for women’s and LGBT rights, let the tweet stand and never followed up with further explanation.

TMZ caught up with Mr. Graham at Ronald Reagan Washington National Airport in suburban D.C. on Friday and asked what he thought of Ms. Handler’s comments. “I don’t think much about what she says at all,” the South Carolina Republican said. “If she wants to live her life that way, that’s up to her.

“She knows zero about me,” he said. “To the extent that it matters, I’m not gay.”

“These comments — I don’t think they reflect well on her,” he added. “We’re moving on from that. Belittling people is not as fun as it used to be, and that’s a good thing.” Mr. Graham, who has never married and has no children, has faced rumors of being gay in left-wing circles that attempt to portray him as a hypocrite on LGBT and women’s issues.
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/20 ... m-not-gay/

"Don't think much...:? Means he is thinking some about what she says, awesome.

How could this dope let Donald give out his cell phone number, call him every name in the book, and now be willing to lose his morals, integrity and legacy over supporting this clown? Sorry to say it but I wish we could trade McCain for Graham. :blackeye: I'm looking forward to Donald fu*king him over again, you know it's gonna happen for some reason.
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Post by Jim » Fri May 31, 2019 4:24 pm

I've really got to wonder...how long will it be before Graham says something Trump doesn't like and Trump calls him Mr Closet?

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Post by Mikedunford » Fri May 31, 2019 5:47 pm

The House should vote - repeatedly - on measures restricting/removing Trump's ability to impose tariffs. And the messaging in 2020 should include "Trump has put tax after tax on the things you buy, and Senator/Representative XXX is letting him do it."
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Post by Gregg » Fri May 31, 2019 5:47 pm

Well, Lindsey may have stepped on his dick with this one, autoworkers are a big voting block in South Carolina and even though those plants are German transplants, they still get a lot of components from Mexico. He was kind of on shaky ground anyhow, because a pretty good part of the destination market for the BMWs and Mercedes built in South Carolina are for export to China. Enough that BMW put off a major investment in that plant until they could see what happens with the Stable Genius and his trade policy.
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Post by Hurtzi » Sat Jun 01, 2019 2:46 am

Gregg wrote:
Fri May 31, 2019 5:47 pm
Well, Lindsey may have stepped on his dick with this one, autoworkers are a big voting block in South Carolina and even though those plants are German transplants, they still get a lot of components from Mexico. He was kind of on shaky ground anyhow, because a pretty good part of the destination market for the BMWs and Mercedes built in South Carolina are for export to China. Enough that BMW put off a major investment in that plant until they could see what happens with the Stable Genius and his trade policy.
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Post by RTH10260 » Sat Jun 01, 2019 10:13 am

China Threatens To Blacklist U.S. Firms Refusing To Supply Huawei
Zak Doffman

On 31 May, China announced its own "non-reliable entity list" in direct response to the U.S. sanctions against Huawei, its 70 affiliates and other Chinese firms. The language in the announcement suggested companies would be singled out for their discriminatory action against Chinese entities, for example adhering to U.S. sanctions against Huawei.

Announcing the news, commerce ministry spokesman Gao Feng said that "foreign enterprises, organizations or individuals that do not comply with market rules, deviate from a contract’s spirit or impose blockades or stop supplies to Chinese enterprises for non-commercial purposes, and seriously damage the legitimate rights and interests of Chinese enterprises, will be included on a list of ‘unreliable entities'."

Along the same lines, China's Cyberspace Administration issued a draft set of beefed-up cybersecurity regulations for "public" consultation last week, designed "to improve the security and controllability of key information infrastructure and maintain national security," companies purchasing "network products and services that affect or may affect national security" will now need to evaluate the national security risk before doing so.

The CAC cyber drafting indicates that companies that disrupt China's supply chain for non-technical reasons, such as political or diplomatic, can be flagged as a national security risk. As with the new blacklisting wording, this suggests that companies adhering to U.S. sanctions might become open to reciprocal Chinese sanctions themselves.


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Post by RTH10260 » Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:39 pm

The gut was once again doing the "thinking"
Trump defies close advisers in deciding to threaten Mexico with disruptive tariffs
Bigger than avocados: How Trump's tariff threat on Mexico could play out

By Seung Min Kim , Josh Dawsey and Damian Paletta May 31 at 8:19 PM

President Trump, confronted with the latest surge of migration that threatens his tough-on-the-border image, was ready to launch his newest plan — across-the-board tariffs on Mexican goods, likely to wound the healthy economy and trigger protests from parts of his own party.

But during a Wednesday night huddle inside the Oval Office, Trump was running into a roadblock: his own advisers.

Calling in from his travels in the Middle East, presidential son-in-law Jared Kushner argued against imposing unilateral tariffs, warning that the move could imperil the prospects of ratifying a new trade deal with Mexico and Canada, according to officials familiar with the meeting. Kushner, a senior White House adviser, insisted that he could still work directly with Mexico to resolve the burgeoning migration crisis.

In the Oval Office with Trump, U.S. Trade Representative Robert E. Lighthizer also lobbied against the tariffs, similarly concerned that the drastic threat against the United States’ third-largest trading partner would upend the fragile trade agreement, which still requires Congress’s blessing.

But Trump was unmoved by the arguments and repeatedly said Mexico had to do more, one person with knowledge of the meeting said. The tariffs, he declared, were going to be announced no matter what.


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Post by MN-Skeptic » Sat Jun 01, 2019 5:45 pm

Since these tweets have to do with Trump's tariffs, I'm consolidating and copying them here:
Donald J. Trump
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Washington Post got it wrong, as usual. The U.S. is charging 25% against 250 Billion Dollars of goods shipped from China, not 200 BD. Also, China is paying a heavy cost in that they will subsidize goods to keep them coming, devalue their currency, yet companies are moving to.....
3:37 PM - 1 Jun 2019
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....U.S. in order to avoid paying the 25% Tariff. Like Mexican companies will move back to the United States once the Tariff reaches the higher levels. They took many of our companies & jobs, the foolish Pols let it happen, and now they will come back unless Mexico stops the.....
3:37 PM - 1 Jun 2019

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...travesty that is taking place in allowing millions of people to easily meander through their country and INVADE the U.S., not to mention the Drugs & Human Trafficking pouring in through Mexico. Are the Drug Lords, Cartels & Coyotes really running Mexico? We will soon find out!
3:37 PM - 1 Jun 2019
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Post by Mikedunford » Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:26 pm

Tariffs = taxes you pay on the things you buy.

That's a simple message. It should be used. A lot.
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Post by MN-Skeptic » Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:47 pm

And Trump continues:
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When you are the “Piggy Bank” Nation that foreign countries have been robbing and deceiving for years, the word TARIFF is a beautiful word indeed! Others must treat the United States fairly and with respect - We are no longer the “fools” of the past!
5:20 PM - 1 Jun 2019
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Post by Gregg » Sat Jun 01, 2019 7:36 pm

MN-Skeptic wrote:
Sat Jun 01, 2019 6:47 pm
And Trump continues:
Donald J. Trump
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When you are the “Piggy Bank” Nation that foreign countries have been robbing and deceiving for years, the word TARIFF is a beautiful word indeed! Others must treat the United States fairly and with respect - We are no longer the “fools” of the past!
5:20 PM - 1 Jun 2019
Maybe not, but we're certainly being led by the fools of the present.
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Post by Volkonski » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:00 pm

MORGAN STANLEY: America could go into recession before next spring if the US-China trade war escalates

https://markets.businessinsider.com/new ... 1028247976
If President Donald Trump follows through with his threat to slap 25% tariffs on a further $300 billion of imports from China, and Beijing retaliates, America's economy could enter recession — defined as two successive quarters of economic decline — within nine months, Chetan Ahya said in a recent note to clients seen by Markets Insider.

Trade fears may already be depressing investment flows. Global imports of capital goods fell by 3% in the first quarter of this year — its lowest level in more than three years — while growth in global fixed investment slowed by 1.3 percentage points to 3.4%, Ahya told the Financial Times.

"Recent conversations with investors have reinforced the sense that markets are underestimating the impact of trade tensions," Ahya wrote. "Investors are generally of the view that the trade dispute could drag on for longer, but they appear to be overlooking its potential impact on the global macro outlook."

Separately, JPMorgan pegs the chances of a US recession in the second half of this year at 40%, up from 25% a month ago, according to Bloomberg. Economists at Goldman Sachs, expecting the Trump administration to impose 10% tariffs on virtually all imports from China and on all imports from Mexico, lowered their second-half US growth forecast by about 0.5 percentage points to 2%, according to a research note.
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Post by Slim Cognito » Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:32 pm

To be fair, I am pretty sick of him winning.
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Post by Addie » Mon Jun 03, 2019 3:01 pm

Politico
Mexico: Trump's tariffs could worsen Central American immigration problem

President Donald Trump’s plan to slap tariffs on Mexican goods will hurt both countries and weaken Mexico’s ability to help stop the flow of Central American immigrants seeking entry into the United States, top Mexican officials said Monday.

“The tariffs could be very costly for the U.S. economy, the consumers in the United States and the Mexican economy,” Mexican Foreign Minister Marcelo Ebrard told reporters during an early morning press conference at the Mexican Embassy.

Trump's plan could also "cause financial and economic instability, which means that Mexico could reduce its capacity to address migration flows and to offer alternatives to the new migrants who have recently arrived in the country," Ebrard added. ...

Ebrard and other Mexican officials rushed to Washington on Friday and over the weekend after Trump announced his plan. Meetings with U.S. officials are expected to continue over the next several days, leading to a summit at the White House on Wednesday with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

U.S. Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue told reporters after talks Monday morning with Mexican Agriculture Secretary Víctor Manuel Villalobos that he was "hopeful" the two sides could reach a deal to prevent Trump's tariffs from going into effect.

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Post by RTH10260 » Mon Jun 03, 2019 4:55 pm

Another message to Dear Donald: if you suggest that American companies move their production to home from Mexico, you will also trigger extra Mexican migrants that are looking for a job opportunity in the US to compensate for the one they just lost at home. :pickle:

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Post by Sam the Centipede » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:25 pm

Indeed!
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Post by Wintermute » Mon Jun 03, 2019 5:34 pm

:yeah:
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Post by Addie » Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:42 pm

NPR
Mexican Government Privately Warns Trump Administration Of Counter-Tariffs

The Mexican government has employed a tone of friendship that's averse to conflict, but Mexican officials behind the scenes are warning the Trump administration that they're prepared to announce targeted counter-tariffs if the United States carries out threats of new tariffs on Mexican imports.

Mexican Foreign Secretary Marcelo Ebrard met with State Department officials in Washington over the last 48 hours in an effort to find a solution to a tariff fight, which he later described as "counterproductive" and would not decrease immigration.

Publicly, they're saying they do not want to disrupt crucial supply chains, but those familiar with the talks say they're privately looking at imports that have political significance and are sent directly to Mexico for consumption.

The behind-the-scenes talks are part of a more public push led Ebrard and other top Mexican officials who are warning their counterparts of disastrous consequences if President Trump carries out threats to impose 5% tariffs on June 10 as so-called punishment for not curbing migration flows, according to two sources familiar with the talks.

"They're going to have to delicately balance inflaming tensions even further, as this could be horrific for both countries, but particularly the Mexican economy," said a former White House official familiar with the conversations. "But you can't just roll over and play dead if you're verbally attacked like this by a foreign government's president. That doesn't play well, domestically." ...

"It's important to remember that any actions that we take to secure our Southern border must also keep in mind the important role that Mexico plays in the economy of the United States," said Sen. John Cornyn, R-Texas. "My state enjoys a strong relationship economically with Mexico because of that 1,200-mile common border."

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Post by Gregg » Mon Jun 03, 2019 9:18 pm

Does Cadet Bone Spurs tariff plans include Mexican Oil?

Even the Republicans might start thinking impeachment if he brings in $5 a gallon for gas in an election year.

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Post by Addie » Tue Jun 04, 2019 1:53 pm

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GOP lawmakers discuss vote to block Trump’s new tariffs on Mexico, in what would be a dramatic act of defiance

Congressional Republicans have begun discussing whether they may have to vote to block President Trump’s planned new tariffs on Mexico, potentially igniting a second standoff this year over Trump’s use of executive powers to circumvent Congress, people familiar with the talks said.

The vote, which would be the GOP’s most dramatic act of defiance since Trump took office, could also have the effect of blocking billions of dollars in border wall funding that the president had announced in February when he declared a national emergency at the southern border, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the talks are private.

Trump’s plans to impose tariffs on Mexico — with which the United States has a free-trade agreement — rely on the president’s declaration of a national emergency at the border. But the law gives Congress the right to override the national emergency determination by passing a resolution of disapproval.

Congress passed such a resolution in March after Trump reallocated the border wall funds, but he vetoed it. Now, as frustration on Capitol Hill grows over Trump’s latest tariff threat, a second vote could potentially command a veto-proof majority to nullify the national emergency, which in turn could undercut both the border-wall effort and the new tariffs.

Republican lawmakers aren’t eager to be drawn into a conflict with the president. But some feel they might have to take action following a growing consensus within the GOP that these new tariffs would amount to tax increases on American businesses and consumers — something that would represent a profound breach of party orthodoxy. Trump has said he would put in place 5 percent tariffs on all Mexican goods as of June 10, rising by another 5 percent a month until October, unless Mexico stops all illegal migration into the United States.

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Politico: Trump aides scramble to contain a trade war

Trump aides and GOP lawmakers are rushing to find a new way forward, hoping to address the president’s immigration concerns with Mexico without destroying a major trade deal.

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