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Post by MN-Skeptic » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:26 pm

The Washington Post has an article - U.S. effort to weaken an international breast-feeding resolution has a long history. I found this paragraph enlightening:
But advocates said that the incident is a throwback to a time when the U.S. government defied the world to protect the infant-formula industry. In 1981, the World Health Organization passed a code to combat the aggressive advertising of breast milk substitutes and provision of free formula to new mothers, after a rise in infant mortality, malnutrition and diarrhea thought to be related to the use of formula mixed with contaminated water. The United States was the sole dissenting vote, against 118 countries in favor, after an intense lobbying campaign by U.S. manufacturers of infant formula to defeat the provision.


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Post by RVInit » Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:27 pm

The UN resolution wasn't trying to push breast feeding ONLY.
Based on decades of research, the resolution says that mother’s milk is healthiest for children, and countries should strive to limit the inaccurate or misleading marketing of breast-milk substitutes.

Then the U.S. delegation, embracing the interests of infant-formula manufacturers, upended the deliberations.

American officials sought to water down the resolution by removing language that called on governments to “protect, promote and support breast-feeding” and another passage that called on policymakers to restrict the promotion of food products that many experts say can have deleterious effects on young children.

When that failed, they turned to threats, according to diplomats and government officials who took part in the discussions. Ecuador, which had planned to introduce the measure, was the first to find itself in the cross hairs. The Americans were blunt: If Ecuador refused to drop the resolution, Washington would unleash punishing trade measures. Todd Chapman, the U.S. ambassador to Ecuador, suggested in meetings with officials in Quito, the Ecuadorean capital, that the Trump administration might also retaliate by withdrawing the military assistance it has been providing in northern Ecuador, a region wracked by violence spilling across the border from Colombia, according to an Ecuadorean government official who took part in the meeting.

The Ecuadorean government quickly acquiesced.

The showdown over the issue was recounted by more than a dozen participants from several countries.
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Post by Dolly » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:14 pm

RVInit wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:27 pm

Source:
https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-wor ... anization/
more from that. I remember reading the part about Russia from another source (but forgot what it was)
Health advocates scrambled to find another sponsor for the resolution, but at least a dozen countries, most of them poor nations in Africa and Latin America, backed off, citing fears of retaliation, according to officials from Uruguay, Mexico and the United States.

“We were astonished, appalled and also saddened,” said Patti Rundall, policy director of the British advocacy group Baby Milk Action, who has attended meetings of the assembly, the decision-making body of the World Health Organization, since the late 1980s.

“What happened was tantamount to blackmail, with the U.S. holding the world hostage and trying to overturn nearly 40 years of consensus on best way to protect infant and young-child health,” she said.

In the end, the Americans’ efforts were mostly unsuccessful. It was the Russians who ultimately stepped in to introduce the measure — and the Americans did not threaten them.


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Post by bob » Mon Jul 09, 2018 6:37 pm

Boston Globe (in May): Inside the Trump Tweet Machine: Staff-written posts, bad grammar (on purpose), and delight in the chaos:
The hallmark of President Trump’s Twitter feed is that it sounds like him — grammatical miscues and all.

But it’s not always Trump tapping out a Tweet, even when it sounds like his voice. West Wing employees who draft proposed tweets intentionally employ suspect grammar and staccato syntax in order to mimic the president’s style, according to two people familiar with the process.

They overuse the exclamation point! They Capitalize random words for emphasis. Fragments. Loosely connected ideas. All part of a process that is not as spontaneous as Trump’s Twitter feed often appears.

Presidential speechwriters have always sought to channel their bosses’ style and cadence, but Trump’s team is blazing new ground with its approach to his favorite means of instant communication. Some staff members even relish the scoldings Trump gets from elites shocked by the Trumpian language they strive to imitate, believing that debates over presidential typos fortify the belief within his base that he has the common touch.

* * *

Those familiar with the process wouldn’t fess up to which tweets were staff-written. But an algorithm crafted by a writer at The Atlantic to determine real versus staff-written tweets suggested several were not written by the president, despite the unusual use of the language.

“Looking forward to greeting the Hostages (no longer) at 2:00 A.M.” someone tweeted from Trump’s account at 6:41 p.m. May 9. The Atlantic’s analysis pegged it 17 percent likely written by Trump, based on a complex comparison with past Trump tweets.

Staff-written tweets do go through a West Wing process of sorts. When a White House employee wants the president to tweet about a topic, the official writes a memo to the president that includes three or four sample tweets, according to those familiar with the process.

Trump then picks the one he likes best, according to the two people, neither of whom wanted to be named because they’re not authorized to talk about the operations. Sometimes Trump will edit the wording and sometimes he’ll just pick his favorite for blasting out to his 52 million Twitter followers.

While staff members do consciously use poor grammar, they do not intentionally misspell words or names, one person familiar with the process explained.

* * *

To help with this there’s also a Twitter account called @TrumpOrNotBot that rates the authenticity of Tweets sent via Trump’s personal account.

* * *

Some clues are still seen as reliable. Tweets that include photographs or videos are likely composed by staff. And ones that have hashtags are also likely staff-written, [bot creator Andrew] McGill said.


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Post by Gregg » Mon Jul 09, 2018 11:40 pm

Kendra wrote:
Mon Jul 09, 2018 1:20 pm

The failing NY Times Fake News story today about breast feeding must be called out. The U.S. strongly supports breast feeding but we don’t believe women should be denied access to formula. Many women need this option because of malnutrition and poverty.

I'm sorry, but my first NSFW reaction to this was

NSFW Sekrit Stuffs!
Are they so phucking poor their tits don't wok?


I know that that might be a view that only an ignorant man who never had children might have. But its honestly what I thought.


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Post by Lani » Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:51 am

What I thought was how are the impoverished mothers going to pay for the formula? When Nestle was giving dry formula to poor moms in the 80's, the milk dried up. Then mothers had to buy formula they couldn't afford. So they watered down the formula, leading to malnutrition. Plus, many didn't have access to clean water.


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Post by Gregg » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:02 pm

Lani wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 1:51 am
What I thought was how are the impoverished mothers going to pay for the formula? When Nestle was giving dry formula to poor moms in the 80's, the milk dried up. Then mothers had to buy formula they couldn't afford. So they watered down the formula, leading to malnutrition. Plus, many didn't have access to clean water.
So it's a variation of the marketing idea pioneered by heroin dealers, give it to 'em for free until they get hooked. :thumbs:


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Post by neeneko » Tue Jul 10, 2018 3:27 pm

Gregg wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:02 pm
So it's a variation of the marketing idea pioneered by heroin dealers, give it to 'em for free until they get hooked. :thumbs:
Where do you think heroin dealers got the idea?



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Post by Dolly » Tue Jul 10, 2018 4:06 pm

Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump
Many countries in NATO, which we are expected to defend, are not only short of their current commitment of 2% (which is low), but are also delinquent for many years in payments that have not been made. Will they reimburse the U.S.?

10:01 AM - Jul 10, 2018


Trump suggests NATO members reimburse US for defense costs

President Trump on Tuesday suggested countries that haven't made their full contributions to fund NATO should reimburse the U.S., further stoking his feud with members of the alliance as he travels to Brussels to meet with NATO leaders.
<snip tweet - see above >

The president sent the tweet as he traveled on Air Force One to Belgium, where he will take part in the annual NATO summit with other world leaders that is scheduled for Wednesday and Thursday.

Trump has long been critical of what he views as the U.S. taking on a disproportionate burden in funding NATO, but he has ratcheted up those complaints in the days leading up to the summit.

NATO members agreed in 2014 to move toward spending at least 2 percent of their respective gross domestic product on defense by 2024.

Trump reportedly wrote to German Chancellor Angela Merkel and other NATO allies last month to chastise them for failing to live up to their spending obligations. He further warned that the U.S. could alter its military deployments if nothing changes.

On Tuesday morning, just before he was set to depart for Brussels, Trump tweeted that the funding burden was unfair to American taxpayers, adding that other countries should pay more and the U.S. should pay less for NATO.

Trump went on to tell reporters on the White House lawn that he believes he'll be able to "work something out" with other member countries.

"NATO has not treated us fairly but I think we'll work something out. We pay far too much and they pay far too little," Trump said. "But we will work it out and all countries will be happy."
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Post by CJ Roberts » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:26 pm

These countries should just read chapters 7, 11, and 13 of The Art of the Deal


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Post by tek » Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:40 pm

where the f'k does he get the idea that these countries have to "reimburse the U.S." ??

what an ass.


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Post by RVInit » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:31 pm

tek wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 5:40 pm
where the f'k does he get the idea that these countries have to "reimburse the U.S." ??

what an ass.
He's talking to his base. He knows they don't know any better. Drumming up support for what he's about to do. He has to demonize them as well as make Putin out to be a nice, white Christian. You know, one of "us".


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Post by Turtle » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:42 pm

If they spend more on defense, it probably benefits US defense contractors more than anyone else.



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Post by Kendra » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:28 pm

Ex-FBI LAYER Lisa Page today defied a House of Representatives issued Subpoena to testify before Congress! Wow, but is anybody really surprised! Together with her lover, FBI Agent Peter Strzok, she worked on the Rigged Witch Hunt, perhaps the most tainted and corrupt case EVER!

How can the Rigged Witch Hunt proceed when it was started, influenced and worked on, for an extended period of time, by former FBI Agent/Lover Peter Strzok? Read his hate filled and totally biased Emails and the answer is clear!



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Post by SLQ » Wed Jul 11, 2018 7:43 pm

I didn't think it was possible, but I am having a shocked reaction to seeing the President of the United States use the word "lover" in a public communication.



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Post by pipistrelle » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:05 pm

I’m shocked that a 70something baby is president and spews.

USING THE OFFICE TO BULLY INDIVIDUALS.

Talk about hate filled.



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Post by SLQ » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:17 pm

pipistrelle wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:05 pm
I’m shocked that a 70something baby is president and spews.

USING THE OFFICE TO BULLY INDIVIDUALS.

Talk about hate filled.
Well, yeah, but that's a shock I've come to expect. :blackeye:



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Post by Dolly » Wed Jul 11, 2018 8:45 pm

How can the Rigged Witch Hunt proceed when it was started, influenced and worked on, for an extended period of time, by former FBI Agent/Lover Peter Strzok? Read his hate filled and totally biased Emails and the answer is clear!
does he mean TEXTS?


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Post by Kendra » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:50 am


As I head out to a very important NATO meeting, I see that FBI Lover/Agent Lisa Page is dodging a Subpoena & is refusing to show up and testify. What can she possibly say about her statements and lies. So much corruption on the other side. Where is the Attorney General? @FoxNews



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Post by Kendra » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:52 am


Billions of additional dollars are being spent by NATO countries since my visit last year, at my request, but it isn’t nearly enough. U.S. spends too much. Europe’s borders are BAD! Pipeline dollars to Russia are not acceptable!



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Post by Kendra » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:55 am


Presidents have been trying unsuccessfully for years to get Germany and other rich NATO Nations to pay more toward their protection from Russia. They pay only a fraction of their cost. The U.S. pays tens of Billions of Dollars too much to subsidize Europe, and loses Big on Trade!

....On top of it all, Germany just started paying Russia, the country they want protection from, Billions of Dollars for their Energy needs coming out of a new pipeline from Russia. Not acceptable! All NATO Nations must meet their 2% commitment, and that must ultimately go to 4%!



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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:41 am

Kendra wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:52 am
https:// twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1017190186269184001
Billions of additional dollars are being spent by NATO countries since my visit last year, at my request, but it isn’t nearly enough. U.S. spends too much. Europe’s borders are BAD! Pipeline dollars to Russia are not acceptable!
WTF? The European NATO allies already back in 2014(?) agreed to increase their parts with a target date of 2024 (?). Rambling dotus may have accelerated this a bit but it was not his doing. Would it be acceptable for thos pipeline $$$ going to the US if they were able to the energy resources? How does dotus think that Germany would feel instead being a slave to the US? And the Europeans have their own traditions to handle (or not handle or badly handle) their borders and the mix of refugees and economic migrants.



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Post by pipistrelle » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:45 am

RTH10260 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:41 am
Kendra wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:52 am
https:// twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1017190186269184001
Billions of additional dollars are being spent by NATO countries since my visit last year, at my request, but it isn’t nearly enough. U.S. spends too much. Europe’s borders are BAD! Pipeline dollars to Russia are not acceptable!
WTF? The European NATO allies already back in 2014(?) agreed to increase their parts with a target date of 2024 (?). Rambling dotus may have accelerated this a bit but it was not his doing. Would it be acceptable for thos pipeline $$$ going to the US if they were able to the energy resources? How does dotus think that Germany would feel instead being a slave to the US? And the Europeans have their own traditions to handle (or not handle or badly handle) their borders and the mix of refugees and economic migrants.
:mememe:
He doesn't.



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Post by RTH10260 » Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:46 am

Kendra wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:55 am
:snippity:
https:// twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1017290478839050240
....On top of it all, Germany just started paying Russia, the country they want protection from, Billions of Dollars for their Energy needs coming out of a new pipeline from Russia. Not acceptable! All NATO Nations must meet their 2% commitment, and that must ultimately go to 4%!
I better not ask how the US billionaires feel at the moment cause they are just waiting to invest in Russia. And don't tell me that dotus continues to dream of a handshake with Putin and getting the approval for a Trump Tower in Moscow. But then Putin may want that investment to be made on Crimea as the new holiday paradise... ;)



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Post by Gregg » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:02 pm

RTH10260 wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 7:41 am
Kendra wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:52 am
https:// twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1017190186269184001
Billions of additional dollars are being spent by NATO countries since my visit last year, at my request, but it isn’t nearly enough. U.S. spends too much. Europe’s borders are BAD! Pipeline dollars to Russia are not acceptable!
WTF? The European NATO allies already back in 2014(?) agreed to increase their parts with a target date of 2024 (?). Rambling dotus may have accelerated this a bit but it was not his doing. Would it be acceptable for thos pipeline $$$ going to the US if they were able to the energy resources? How does dotus think that Germany would feel instead being a slave to the US? And the Europeans have their own traditions to handle (or not handle or badly handle) their borders and the mix of refugees and economic migrants.
It kind of slipped into the cracks, but the entire statement mentioned that they were using the Russian gas to get away from coal.
:winner: :commie:
We have winner. Scrap the pipeline, buy more American Coal! Make Russia America Great Again!


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