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Michael Cohen

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Post by Mikedunford » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:11 pm

The Cohen stuff is in at least three separate threads right now, so I thought it might be time for a single-stop thread.

Here's Above the Law's take on Cohen of Cooley's present difficulties:
Remember this is the story that Cohen (and Trump) want you to believe:

A lawyer, acting on his own authority and not in consultation with his client, set up a shell corporation to pay $130,000 to prevent a woman for going public with her allegation of sleeping with that lawyer’s client — who happened to be running for president at the time. The client/candidate had no knowledge of the payment, and the payment was not logged as a campaign contribution, but the client may or may not have set up a slush fund the lawyer could access to… pay for things? But this payment was made with a home equity line that the lawyer personally secured to make the payment.

THAT’S THEIR OFFICIAL STORY, FOLKS. We assume that the FBI is looking at whether Cohen participated in election fraud or bank fraud because his official story sounds an awful lot like election fraud and bank fraud.
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Maybe Cohen holds a lot of secrets, but maybe he doesn’t. They call him a pit bull, but just think about how much your idiot dog knows about your tax returns. The way Cohen behaves, I don’t believe he knows “where all the bodies are buried” unless he personally buried a literal body… and even then, Cohen seems like the kind of guy who could lose a corpse in the Pine Barrens.


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Post by TollandRCR » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:40 pm

Do we know who Cohen's attorney is? I am interested in Gates' A hires B and B hires C comment. Could it be Taft?

The Week says that the FBI raid was about taxi medallions that Cohen owns. That makes little sense WRT the recusal.


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Post by Kendra » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:57 pm

https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/10/politics ... index.html
(CNN)When FBI agents raided the home and office of President Donald Trump's personal lawyer Michael Cohen on Monday, they were after documents related to the hush agreement Cohen cut with porn star Stormy Daniels 11 days before the 2016 presidential election.

But, they were also in search of documents tied to Cohen's ownership of New York City taxi medallions, according to CNN's Pamela Brown and Gloria Borger. Cohen has held numerous New York City medallions in his portfolio, according to records.
Which is totally fascinating. And totally New York City.
There's more at the link about taxi medallions.



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Post by SLQ » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:58 pm

TollandRCR wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:40 pm
Do we know who Cohen's attorney is? I am interested in Gates' A hires B and B hires C comment. Could it be Taft?

The Week says that the FBI raid was about taxi medallions that Cohen owns. That makes little sense WRT the recusal.
Yes. At least we know the attorney who responded regarding the raid.
Cohen's attorney, Stephen Ryan, released a statement confirming the search, saying, "Today the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York executed a series of search warrants and seized the privileged communications between my client, Michael Cohen, and his clients. I have been advised by federal prosecutors that the New York action is, in part, a referral by the Office of Special Counsel, Robert Mueller." According to a knowledgeable official, the information used in Monday's raid originated with the special counsel but is a separate inquiry, CBS News' Andres Triay reports.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/fbi-raids- ... 018-04-09/

(There was some discussion about this attorney on one of the other threads.)

It appears that there were several lines of inquiry regarding the raid, including the taxi medallions:

F.B.I. Sought Files on Payoffs to Women Who Accused Trump



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Post by Kendra » Tue Apr 10, 2018 2:59 pm


Post deputy editorial page editor Ruth Marcus has a lesson for President Trump about how to respond to news the FBI searched his personal attorney's property.

Read more: https://wapo.st/2qjplYM



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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:08 pm

Taunting Trump by executing search warrants on Michael Cohen's records for hush money payoffs seems like a chicken shit thing to have done. If that's all it is.

Does Mueller want to be fired?

If there is not more that's involved, this was really a stupid move by Mueller.



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Post by ZekeB » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:09 pm

Cohen, Trump, et al. The noose tightens around the NYC Mafioso. One of these days Trump is going to refer to Stormy Daniels as a moll.


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Post by TollandRCR » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:12 pm

At one time NYC taxi medallions would have been a good but weird investment -- often a lease instead of a purchase. They reached above $2 million in the crazy years. Uber and Lyft mean that sometimes a licensed and tested taxi driver owes more in the medallion fee than gained in annual earnings

I will not forget a NYC taxi driver. Testing is not a guarantee of knowledge or honesty. I once jumped into a taxi in Morningside Heights and gave my destination as Grand Central Terminal. The driver asked me for directions. I had the cab stop at the next intersection. I might have ended up in Queens and encountered a young Drumpf! The driver was not happy.

Then there was another experience right after another Christmas. She picked me up at Lincoln Center in a packed cab. People were friendly and funny if sweaty. She plotted routes; I was again going to the Grand Central area (where I usually go). I was stuck in the Roosevelt Hotel; no trains running and no food deliveries to the hotel. For some reason they had an inexhaustible supply of (frozen) crab meat. I finally got back on a crowded train to New Haven Station and my 4wd. I then had eggs.

It is fun up here in the frozen Northeast (snow last night, gone today) except we miss the earthquakes u. Well, not exactly, but that story is for another day.


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Post by SLQ » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:14 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:08 pm
Taunting Trump by executing search warrants on Michael Cohen's records for hush money payoffs seems like a chicken shit thing to have done. If that's all it is.

Does Mueller want to be fired?

If there is not more that's involved, this was really a stupid move by Mueller.
Mueller hasn't shown himself to make stupid moves. Ergo, there is likely more involved (as with the taxi medallions). Also, he referred it to SDNY. He didn't execute search warrants. If SDNY did not believe search warrants were well-founded, they wouldn't have gone forward, right?



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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:16 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:08 pm
Taunting Trump by executing search warrants on Michael Cohen's records for hush money payoffs seems like a chicken shit thing to have done. If that's all it is.

Does Mueller want to be fired?

If there is not more that's involved, this was really a stupid move by Mueller.
You keep using that word "taunting". I don't think it means what you think it means. -Inigo Montoya


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Post by kate520 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:17 pm

Well, Stern, Mueller's not shown us his stupid side yet, so it's a safe bet there're more and bigger fish coming.


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Post by NotaPerson » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:25 pm

Rick Wilson is clearly enjoying this moment...
Suddenly, Michael Cohen, the bag-walking, dick-swinging swagger-monkey wannabe thug attorney and consigliere for Donald Trump’s far-flung penile enterprises is scared. If Cohen had a lump of coal in his ass the moment those search warrants arrived, he could have popped out a diamond. He realizes how deep this hole can become if he doesn’t roll over. He doesn’t have the resources to defend himself, and Trump isn’t exactly known for paying his bills in the first place. Cohen is scared, and he’s not alone.

What has to strike absolute terror into Trump at this moment is the fact that the Southern District of New York, acting on a referral from Robert Mueller, was able to obtain extraordinarily broad authority and was granted search warrants that may even penetrate attorney-client privilege.

Trump must know this may be one of the most dangerous moments in his entire life, not just his presidency. The likelihood is that Mueller and the FBI are now in possession of the Black Books of Trump....
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-raid- ... e?ref=home

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Post by TexasFilly » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:26 pm

Geoffrey Berman, the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, is recused from the Michael Cohen investigation, ABC News has learned.


Berman was not involved in the decision to raid Cohen's office because of the recusal, two sources familiar with the matter tell ABC News

The recusal was approved by senior Justice Department officials who report to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein, the sources said. Rosenstein himself was notified of the recusal after the decision was made.

The raid of Cohen's office was handled by others in the office of the U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York and approved by a federal judge.
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/us-attor ... d=54365546


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:31 pm

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:16 pm
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:08 pm
Taunting Trump by executing search warrants on Michael Cohen's records for hush money payoffs seems like a chicken shit thing to have done. If that's all it is.

Does Mueller want to be fired?

If there is not more that's involved, this was really a stupid move by Mueller.
You keep using that word "taunting". I don't think it means what you think it means. -Inigo Montoya
I use "taunting" as a synonym of "provoking." Last I checked it meant exactly what I thought it meant. What do you think I meant it to mean? At any rate, it is a rare day in Marurary when I use a word whose meaning I do not know.



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Post by listeme » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:06 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:08 pm
Taunting Trump by executing search warrants on Michael Cohen's records for hush money payoffs seems like a chicken shit thing to have done. If that's all it is.

Does Mueller want to be fired?

If there is not more that's involved, this was really a stupid move by Mueller.
It hadn't occurred to me that this was the case. What makes you suspect this?


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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:14 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:31 pm
Tiredretiredlawyer wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:16 pm
Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:08 pm
Taunting Trump by executing search warrants on Michael Cohen's records for hush money payoffs seems like a chicken shit thing to have done. If that's all it is.

Does Mueller want to be fired?

If there is not more that's involved, this was really a stupid move by Mueller.
You keep using that word "taunting". I don't think it means what you think it means. -Inigo Montoya
I use "taunting" as a synonym of "provoking." Last I checked it meant exactly what I thought it meant. What do you think I meant it to mean? At any rate, it is a rare day in Marurary when I use a word whose meaning I do not know.
It was my Princess Bride way of asking you why you state Mueller is taunting Trump.


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Post by Orlylicious » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:05 pm

Next on CNN: Michael "Says Who" Cohen Speaks Exclusively to CNN. 6pm EDT hour. Funny he picked CNN.



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Post by Dan1100 » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:08 pm

Orlylicious wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:05 pm
Next on CNN: Michael "Says Who" Cohen Speaks Exclusively to CNN. 6pm EDT hour. Funny he picked CNN.
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Post by MsDaisy » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:09 pm

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 5:14 pm

It was my Princess Bride way of asking you why you state Mueller is taunting Trump.
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Post by Orlylicious » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:10 pm

It's not a direct interview, he spoke to Don Lemon and Don is relaying the information to Wolf Blitzer. He's upset he got raided, he's worried for his family, the FBI was very courteous and he thanked them afterward, and he wants it to be over with. He thinks everything he did was legal.



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Post by TexasFilly » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:14 pm

Orlylicious wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:10 pm
It's not a direct interview, he spoke to Don Lemon and Don is relaying the information to Wolf Blitzer. He's upset he got raided, he's worried for his family, the FBI was very courteous and he thanked them afterward, and he wants it to be over with. He thinks everything he did was legal.
:violin: Poor Michael Cohen. His wife and daughter were upset! :crying:


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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:16 pm

https://wonkette.com/632382/a-very-sobe ... ld-of-shit
What's up with all these Deep State Republicans?
A Very Sober And Serious Lawsplainer Of Michael Cohen’s WORLD OF SHIT
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Post by Suranis » Tue Apr 10, 2018 6:26 pm

Alan Dershowitz has been carrying water for trump on this all day. He wrote this in the hill

http://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/38 ... rry-us-all
There are, of course, exceptions to the lawyer-client privilege. First, the lawyer must be acting as a lawyer, not as a friend or business associate. But the scope of a lawyer’s work is quite broad, encompassing much more than merely giving legal advice. It includes settling cases by making payments to potential litigants. Second, the lawyer must be engaged in lawful activities on behalf of the clients. Illegal or fraudulent activities are not covered by the privilege. Nor are communications with third persons, such as the lawyer for the other side, though such communications may be covered by the much weaker “settlement privilege.”

Civil libertarians should be concerned whenever the government interferes with the lawyer-client relationship. Clients should be able to rely on confidentiality when they disclose their most intimate secrets in an effort to secure their legal rights. A highly publicized raid on the president’s lawyer will surely shake the confidence of many clients in promises of confidentiality by their lawyers. They will not necessarily understand the nuances of the confidentiality rules and their exceptions. They will see a lawyer’s office being raided and all his files seized.

I believe we would have been hearing more from civil libertarians— the American Civil Liberties Union, attorney groups and privacy advocates — if the raid had been on Hillary Clinton’s lawyer. Many civil libertarians have remained silent about potential violations of President Trump’s rights because they strongly disapprove of him and his policies. That is a serious mistake, because these violations establish precedents that lie around like loaded guns capable of being aimed at other targets.

I have been widely attacked for defending the constitutional rights of a president I voted against. In our hyperpartisan age, everyone is expected to choose a side, either for or against Trump. But the essence of civil liberties is that they must be equally applicable to all. The silence among most civil libertarians regarding the recent raid shows that we are losing that valuable neutrality.
And he has been on FOX raging at the ACLU saying nothing https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video ... eller.html

And he is having dinner with Trump tonight, where no doubt much ass kissing will be done and angling to get himself some nice AG job action once Trump pulls the plug on Sessions.


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Post by Lani » Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:40 pm

The search warrant carried out by the public corruption unit of the Manhattan federal attorney’s office seeks information about Karen McDougal, a former Playboy model who claims she carried on a nearly yearlong affair with Mr. Trump shortly after the birth of his son in 2006. Ms. McDougal was paid $150,000 by American Media Inc., The Enquirer’s parent company, whose chief executive is a friend of Mr. Trump’s.

Agents were also searching the office and hotel room of the lawyer, Michael D. Cohen, for information related to Stephanie Clifford, better known as Stormy Daniels, who says she also had sex with Mr. Trump while he was married. Mr. Cohen has acknowledged that he paid Ms. Clifford $130,000 as part of a nondisclosure agreement to secure her silence just days before the 2016 presidential election.

:snippity:

It is unclear exactly why the New York investigators are examining the payments. But critics of the president have claimed that they amount to illegal campaign contributions — from Mr. Cohen and American Media — to the president’s campaign because they helped Mr. Trump win the White House by keeping politically damaging stories out of public view.

The F.B.I. also searched for records related to Mr. Cohen’s taxicab business, apparently a separate line of inquiry unrelated to Mr. Trump. Mr. Cohen is a longtime owner of taxi medallions, at one point operating a fleet of more than 200 cabs in Manhattan.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/us/p ... stein.html


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Post by chancery » Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:34 pm

Lani wrote:
Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:40 pm
The search warrant carried out by the public corruption unit of the Manhattan federal attorney’s office seeks
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/10/us/p ... stein.html
It's "United States Attorney's office." I'm pleased that the current version of the story has corrected this.

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