Trump had his attorney Michael Cohen pay porn star Stormy Daniels $130k in hush money

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Post by Slim Cognito » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:26 pm

Suranis wrote:
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Melinia is an abused wife. And as far as that goes I am sympathetic. But, frankly, she had sex with him while he was married, and then hung around for years after Maples sucked her pound of flesh out of Donald's debt load. She had MORE than adequate time to see what kind of guy he was and escape, but she still hooked up to his bank account. She knew what she was getting into. It's so pathetically obvious she only went after the money that its pathetic. And the sad thing is that her golden goose turned out to be full of shit.

People don't remember but Melinia spoke privately to Hillary Clinton for a few minutes after the speeches at that Catholic Fundraiser that Donald got booed in, and I often wonder what she was talking to her about because from the photo of the conversation both women looked pretty serious. And no I cant find the photo, I tried a while back and could not track it down.
People do stupid things when they're young. Not an excuse, it's simply a fact. It doesn't mean you don't regret them years later (voice of experience).

Also, we don't know what type of childhood she had, or anything of her personality, whether she's self-aware enough to make the hard changes necessary to become an independent adult. When your whole life revolves around your children, you can forget you're a person yourself.

Believe it or not, I wasn't always a kick-ass old broad who managed to run TWO men out of town for harassing her when she lived alone on prime lake-front real estate.* I was raised to be submissive housewife, find a successful husband and play bridge on Wednesdays. It didn't work out but it took me far too many years to reach the point I was mentally capable of fixing it. So, I get it.

*Hand to God, this is true. Neighbors on each side of me decided they wanted chunks of my lot. They both ended up selling and moving away, to different towns. Some day I'll tell you guys the whole story.



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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:29 pm

Slim Cognito wrote:Believe it or not, I wasn't always a kick-ass old broad who managed to run TWO men out of town for harassing her when she lived alone on prime lake-front real estate.*
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Post by pipistrelle » Fri Jan 26, 2018 10:56 pm

Someone posted here how she enables her husband's conspiracy-laden view of the America he hates, so that killed my remaining sympathy for her.

I feel badly for the son, who has to have heard some or all of this.



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Post by Dolly » Sat Jan 27, 2018 12:21 am

Suranis wrote:
Fri Jan 26, 2018 4:39 pm
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People don't remember but Melinia spoke privately to Hillary Clinton for a few minutes after the speeches at that Catholic Fundraiser that Donald got booed in, and I often wonder what she was talking to her about because from the photo of the conversation both women looked pretty serious. And no I cant find the photo, I tried a while back and could not track it down.
I was curious and am trying to help. This?
""Hillary Clinton speaks with Melania Trump while attending the annual Alfred E. Smith Memorial Foundation Dinner at the Waldorf Astoria.Source:AFP"
http://www.news.com.au/world/donald-tru ... 107658be47

October 21, 2016 (more at the link)
http://people.com/politics/melania-laug ... th-dinner/

Updated ET Oct. 21, 2016 (more at the link)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/ent ... /92491804/


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Post by Orlylicious » Sat Jan 27, 2018 4:28 am

Nice Donald cheated in his own property. Hope he read the story. Seems like Melania sure did.
The pair’s first sexual encounter in Trump’s Reno, Nevada, hotel room is the only one Daniels discussed in the interview. She detailed other meetings with Trump in which the two did not have sex but did not specifically say whether their sexual activity together had been limited to just the one night.

Daniels did say that the two did not use a condom, in part because she has a latex allergy and did not have a latex-free condom with her.

“It was textbook generic. It wasn’t like, “Oh my God, I love you.” He wasn’t like Fabio or anything. He wasn’t trying to have, like, porn sex,” she recalled. “Nothing freaky. Like, ‘Oh yeah, that feels good. That’s amazing.’ You know. It was one position, what you would expect someone his age to do. It wasn’t bad. Don’t get me wrong.”
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“The sex was nothing crazy. He wasn’t like, chain me to the bed or anything. It was one position. I can definitely describe his junk perfectly, if I ever have to. He definitely seemed smitten after that,” Daniels said of her rendezvous with Trump.
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After they had sex, Trump asked for Daniels’ autograph

The president had one of Daniels’ DVDs in his room with him, which he asked her to sign for him after the two had sex. Daniels guessed that Trump had gotten the DVD from a gift bag handed out at a charity golf tournament where she was doing an appearance for her company.

Porn DVDs are given out at charity golf tournaments these days with porn star appearances? What charity?

Asked if she was attracted to the president, Daniels replied “would you be?” :lol: but added that she was “fascinated” by him. She told “In Touch” that she expected that their initial conversation, much of which focused on the non-sexual aspects of her line of work, might lead to sex.

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Post by Chilidog » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:18 pm

Partial Cross post

1) why doesn't a media outlet just pay Daniels more than she would lose if she violates the NDA?

2) If she violates the NDA, would they not have to admit that they violated FEC laws in order to sue get over it?



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Post by bob » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:25 pm

Chilidog wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:18 pm
why doesn't a media outlet just pay Daniels more than she would lose if she violates the NDA?
It isn't about the $130k; the damages caused by breaching the NDA isn't limited to how much she was paid. (The NDA agreement also allows for the recovery of attorney fees.)


Having said that, anyone could indemnify Daniels, if she was sued.


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Post by ZekeB » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:29 pm

If my neighbor robs a bank and pays me $10k for a NDA, can I be held responsible for additional damages to him if I break the NDA to collect the $25k reward?


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Post by Chilidog » Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:41 pm

That's my point. If the payment of the hush money violated FEC rules, how would breaking the NDA make one liable for the damage?



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Post by bob » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:34 pm

Chilidog wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:41 pm
That's my point. If the payment of the hush money violated FEC rules, how would breaking the NDA make one liable for the damage?
One cannot (legally) contract to do something illegal. But it would appear this NDA did not create a contract for anything illegal.

That the president's campaign might not have complied with FEC requirements is a separate issue from the contract's validity.


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:36 pm

bob wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:25 pm
Chilidog wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 8:18 pm
why doesn't a media outlet just pay Daniels more than she would lose if she violates the NDA?
It isn't about the $130k; the damages caused by breaching the NDA isn't limited to how much she was paid. (The NDA agreement also allows for the recovery of attorney fees.)


Having said that, anyone could indemnify Daniels, if she was sued.
Aren't you guessing at what the NDA says? You haven't seen it, have you?

Wait a minute! bob -- do you DRAFT IT? :jawdrop:



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Post by bob » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:37 pm

Sterngard Friegen wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:36 pm
Aren't you guessing at what the NDA says? You haven't seen it, have you?
Educatedly guessing, based on the NDAs we have seen. (And the quality of the president's legal representation, i.e., not much.)


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Post by Dan1100 » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:39 pm

Regardless of the merits one way or another, litigating with someone like Donald Trump would probably bankrupt a mid-level porn "star" like Stormy.


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Post by bob » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:49 pm

Dan1100 wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:39 pm
Regardless of the merits one way or another, litigating with someone like Donald Trump would probably bankrupt a mid-level porn "star" like Stormy.
Yes. (Unless she pulled a Hulk Hogan and found a patron.)


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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:57 pm

bob wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:49 pm
Dan1100 wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:39 pm
Regardless of the merits one way or another, litigating with someone like Donald Trump would probably bankrupt a mid-level porn "star" like Stormy.
Yes. (Unless she pulled a Hulk Hogan and found a patron.)
I think the whole point of the discussion was that she'd find a paytron.



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Post by Somerset » Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:10 pm

bob wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:49 pm
Dan1100 wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:39 pm
Regardless of the merits one way or another, litigating with someone like Donald Trump would probably bankrupt a mid-level porn "star" like Stormy.
Yes. (Unless she pulled a Hulk Hogan and found a patron.)
What's the point of violating the NDA anyway?.She gave an interview and told friends/colleagues about the encounter long before she signed the NDA. They aren't bound by it, and they're talking and printing articles. She can probably monetize the current situation better by not talking and keeping the public's attention for as long as possible.



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Post by Slim Cognito » Sun Jan 28, 2018 9:42 am

Somerset wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 10:10 pm
bob wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:49 pm
Dan1100 wrote:
Sat Jan 27, 2018 9:39 pm
Regardless of the merits one way or another, litigating with someone like Donald Trump would probably bankrupt a mid-level porn "star" like Stormy.
Yes. (Unless she pulled a Hulk Hogan and found a patron.)
What's the point of violating the NDA anyway?.She gave an interview and told friends/colleagues about the encounter long before she signed the NDA. They aren't bound by it, and they're talking and printing articles. She can probably monetize the current situation better by not talking and keeping the public's attention for as long as possible.
I think she's doing just that. She's begun a Make America Horny Again tour appearing at strip clubs and smiling knowingly when someone shouts a question about Trump. Hell, the promotion poster has a photo of her and Trump at some golf thingie. Also too, she'll be on one of the late night shows after the SOTU address.



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Post by Fortinbras » Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:22 am

A non-disclosure agreement yields to a witness's duties in either a Congressional hearing or a court hearing (or deposition). Altho she wouldn't make any money out of testifying, the NDA couldn't silence her there (and if the Prez tried to make an issue of it, he'd only be digging himself a deeper hole). Once that cat is out of the bag I am sure she could exploit it in some way (probably, as we speak, a porn movie - or two or three - are in the works).



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Post by Dan1100 » Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:50 pm

Fortinbras wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:22 am
A non-disclosure agreement yields to a witness's duties in either a Congressional hearing or a court hearing (or deposition). Altho she wouldn't make any money out of testifying, the NDA couldn't silence her there (and if the Prez tried to make an issue of it, he'd only be digging himself a deeper hole). Once that cat is out of the bag I am sure she could exploit it in some way (probably, as we speak, a porn movie - or two or three - are in the works).
I think Rule 34 comes into play at that point and there will be a porno-docu-drama of Stormy's relationship with the Donald accompanied by a reality show "The Making of the Stormy/Trump porno-docu-drama."


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Post by Sam the Centipede » Sun Jan 28, 2018 3:46 pm

Dan1100 wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 2:50 pm
Fortinbras wrote:
Sun Jan 28, 2018 10:22 am
A non-disclosure agreement yields to a witness's duties in either a Congressional hearing or a court hearing (or deposition). Altho she wouldn't make any money out of testifying, the NDA couldn't silence her there (and if the Prez tried to make an issue of it, he'd only be digging himself a deeper hole). Once that cat is out of the bag I am sure she could exploit it in some way (probably, as we speak, a porn movie - or two or three - are in the works).
I think Rule 34 comes into play at that point and there will be a porno-docu-drama of Stormy's relationship with the Donald accompanied by a reality show "The Making of the Stormy/Trump porno-docu-drama."
:doh: I thought you were talking legalese and referring to the Federal Rules of Civil Procedure ... then my brain kicked in and I realized that it was the far wider ranging Rule 34 of The Internet! :lol:



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Post by Suranis » Mon Jan 29, 2018 5:50 am

Becasue we all need to hear the directors commentary of the porn docudrama of the Spankies.


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Post by Fortinbras » Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:00 pm

Evidently in the last few days Stormy has backtracked and now denies having had "an affair" with Trump. Trump himself also denies this.
Makes me wonder why she made the claim in a 2011 interview (very recently dusted off and published).
Also makes me wonder why Trump paid her the big bucks (or did he?).
Also makes me wonder what's happened with Melania.

This would make Stormy Daniels one of the very few Americans who hasn't been screwed by Donald Trump.



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Post by Slim Cognito » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:57 am

Fortinbras wrote:
Tue Jan 30, 2018 10:00 pm
Evidently in the last few days Stormy has backtracked and now denies having had "an affair" with Trump. Trump himself also denies this.
Makes me wonder why she made the claim in a 2011 interview (very recently dusted off and published).
Also makes me wonder why Trump paid her the big bucks (or did he?).
Also makes me wonder what's happened with Melania.

This would make Stormy Daniels one of the very few Americans who hasn't been screwed by Donald Trump.
I'm going out on a limb here, but I think Melania believes they did.



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Post by Suranis » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:28 am

I haven't watched this (and am not going to) so I'll just quote a guy who has. Remember when people thought "no way could Trumps laywers be so stupid as to forge her signature on that letter denying that she had an affair?
Trump's lawyers appear to have forged a letter from Stormy Daniels saying that she didn't have an affair with him.

Jimmy Kimmel asked her about it and she said she had no idea where it came from and that it wasn't her signature.

Note that the letter was actually signed 'Stormy Daniels' instead of being signed with her real name.

Just when you thought that there was a limit to the stupidity of Trump's counsel, a new utterly fucking ridiculous thing comes along.



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Post by Foggy » Wed Jan 31, 2018 11:38 am

:rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao: :rotflmao:

STORMY DANIELS FTW!!


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