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Post by Sam the Centipede » Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:26 am

pipistrelle wrote:
Tue Jul 10, 2018 10:59 pm
I guess those people who almost got fried by the Hammonds little inferno don't matter.
Absolutely correct! In the poot worldview, only they themselves matter so if anyone else suffers from their actions, it's the victim's fault. That's if they notice there's a victim at all - they are blind to other people and other groups.



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Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

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Post by Foggy » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:22 am

MD Laughter has adopted the term "poots". Welcome to the team, MD. :thumbs:


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Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

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Post by neeneko » Wed Jul 11, 2018 6:29 am

Sam the Centipede wrote:
Wed Jul 11, 2018 3:26 am
Absolutely correct! In the poot worldview, only they themselves matter so if anyone else suffers from their actions, it's the victim's fault. That's if they notice there's a victim at all - they are blind to other people and other groups.
There is also the whole theological component.

If good things happen to them : god wills it.
If bad things happen to other people : god wills it.
If bad things happen to them : people are thwarting the will of god.



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Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

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Post by scirreeve » Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:33 pm

Joshy says his driving without a license case was dismissed.
DRIVING ON A REVOKED LICENSE: CASE DISMISSED AND CLOSED
He made a video about it - I haven't watched all of it.
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Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

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Post by Dolly » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:38 pm

Gavin Seim shared a post.
https://www.facebook .com/gavinseim/posts/10156793807829683
Ammon Bundy
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Maybe I should say a few things...Dwight & Steven Hammond should have never gone back to prison...Sheriff David Ward failed in his duty, God has given us the advantage and it does our hearts good to see this injustice end!
huge video under spoiler
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Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

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Post by pipistrelle » Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:57 pm

Ammon has more than one heart? 👽



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Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

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Post by Jerry Mander » Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:36 pm

Apparently there was a road block in Burns yesterday that blocked access to a proposed Hammond ‘press conference’. This led to three shouty videos on SSG MoeRon’s page.

The Hammonds then cancelled their press conference. SSG MoeRon had some words with Sheriff Ward. This video’s worth a look.

It seems like the Hammonds are deliberately distancing themselves from the Bundy cult freak show.

How long will it take for the poots/Bundy cult to figure that out? :confused:





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Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

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Post by scirreeve » Thu Jul 12, 2018 6:35 pm

Cliven talks nonsense in a video embedded in this link. The pardon had nothing to do with the Bundys and the Hammonds are being careful not to associate with them. Lucas being buddies with Pence had way more to do with it than anything the Bundy cult said or did.
Cliven Bundy, a guiding force in the anti-government-overreach movement in the western U.S., says Donald Trump’s presidential pardon of Oregon ranchers Dwight and Steven Hammond was a “victory” for the country, and shows the president is on their side.
http://gephardtdaily.com/top-stories/cl ... eir-cause/



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Post by scirreeve » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:04 pm

Bundy cult member Ponzi "Rick" Claude Koerber (whose wife is a Skousen) had his case tossed because of prosecution misconduct (sound familiar?). Embedded video has Mumpoot in it.
In 2009, Koerber was indicted on 25 counts including securities fraud, mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering and tax evasion. He was accused of operating a $100 million Ponzi scheme through his Founders Capital company that allegedly owed investors $48 million.

"It is absurd to anyone who looks at the records to suggest this business was a Ponzi scheme," Koerber told reporters at the Downtown Salt Lake City Marriott, while flanked by his family and attorney Marcus Mumford. "The people I did business with were grown men and women who knew what we were doing who took some risks. We made some and we lost some and most of the people who did business with me walked away profitable."

On Thursday, Federal District Judge Clark Waddoups dismissed the charges with prejudice, meaning they cannot be filed again. Judge Waddoups threw out the case because federal prosecutors, led by Assistant U.S. Attorney Stewart Walz, missed filing deadlines and engaged in "questionable ethical conduct".
https://www.good4utah.com/news/local-wa ... /204206538
Edit: Evidently this article is 4 years old - Dolly's post has the latest info in it. I posted Fake News and will take a time out.



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Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

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Post by Sageandcows » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:27 pm

Looks like Santilli will be in Harney County in Saturday. And heard some people say Sgt Mo and Jason Patrick now live in Burns. I noticed she called Burns home in one video. So much awesomeness!



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Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

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Post by scirreeve » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:30 pm

Sageandcows wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:27 pm
Looks like Santilli will be in Harney County in Saturday. And heard some people say Sgt Mo and Jason Patrick now live in Burns. I noticed she called Burns home in one video. So much awesomeness!
Moo lives in Burns now - presumably with JP. There is some big pootenanny happening there on Saturday. Teresa Brookshire is there too. She flew in from NC and Moo picked her up at the Boise airport.



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Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

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Post by poplove » Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:53 pm

scirreeve wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:30 pm
Sageandcows wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:27 pm
Looks like Santilli will be in Harney County in Saturday. And heard some people say Sgt Mo and Jason Patrick now live in Burns. I noticed she called Burns home in one video. So much awesomeness!
Moo lives in Burns now - presumably with JP. There is some big pootenanny happening there on Saturday. Teresa Brookshire is there too. She flew in from NC and Moo picked her up at the Boise airport.
Oh good. Moo finally found affordable housing in Burns. Jason must be ecstatic.


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Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

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Post by Jerry Mander » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:12 pm

How long before Burns has to deal with an influx of poots who take over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge again?



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Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

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Post by Curmudgeon » Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:29 pm

Jerry Mander wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 6:12 pm
How long before Burns has to deal with an influx of poots who take over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge again?
In the words of USMC Gen. Chesty Puller:
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Delusion: A poot who thinks that he/she is one of "we the people." ;)

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Post by Jerry Mander » Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:25 pm

SSG MoeRon actually had the hubris to do a tour of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge for some poot lady.




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Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

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Post by scirreeve » Sat Jul 14, 2018 12:06 am

Jerry Mander wrote:
Fri Jul 13, 2018 11:25 pm
SSG MoeRon actually had the hubris to do a tour of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge for some poot lady.

Yeah - Teresa and Paula went there today. Tried to find a pic of JP there cuz I'm sure he was with Moo (and not allowed to be per his release conditions). Sadly I didn't find one. I did see a pic of him lurking behind the NC poot ladies at the Narrows.



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Post by Volkonski » Sat Jul 14, 2018 6:43 am

Leah Sottile

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A pot worker was shot by police on company property in Lane County.

Side story: the company was founded by Ammon Bundy's original #oregonstandoff attorney, Mike Arnold, who left his legal practice to grow weed.


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Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

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Post by Dolly » Sat Jul 14, 2018 7:41 pm

scirreeve wrote:
Thu Jul 12, 2018 10:04 pm
Bundy cult member Ponzi "Rick" Claude Koerber (whose wife is a Skousen) had his case tossed because of prosecution misconduct (sound familiar?). Embedded video has Mumpoot in it.
In 2009, Koerber was indicted on 25 counts including securities fraud, mail fraud, wire fraud, money laundering and tax evasion. He was accused of operating a $100 million Ponzi scheme through his Founders Capital company that allegedly owed investors $48 million.
......
On Thursday, Federal District Judge Clark Waddoups dismissed the charges with prejudice, meaning they cannot be filed again. Judge Waddoups threw out the case because federal prosecutors, led by Assistant U.S. Attorney Stewart Walz, missed filing deadlines and engaged in "questionable ethical conduct".
https://www.good4utah.com/news/local-wa ... /204206538
There is no date at the link. A google search for "Rick Koerber" has more results. Sorry, but I don't have the time to put them in order and read them. Also don't have the "smarts" to explain it. <ETA see the wiki info at the bottom>

PAYWALL. I had to open the links in Incognito Window.

Updated: February 28, 2018
Retrial of Utah businessman Rick Koerber rescheduled to begin Sept. 4
<photo has John Lamb in the background :roll: >

The retrial of former real-estate investor Rick Koerber on fraud and money laundering charges is now scheduled to begin Sept. 4 in Salt Lake City.

After Koerber’s first trial in U.S. District Court ended Oct. 16 with a deadlocked jury, prosecutors decided to retry him. A federal judge from New York, Frederic Block, will preside over the proceeding, which is expected to take eight weeks.

The trial, which had been slated to begin in the summer, was rescheduled at a status conference held Tuesday.
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/02/28/ ... in-sept-4/

https://archive.is/sCAdF


From the google search RESULTS page. Sorry, my computer/internet service is too slow to try to do more. :madguy:
Out-of-state judge will preside over fraud retrial of Utah real estate guru Rick Koerber
Feb 21, 2018 - A federal judge from New York will be on the bench when real estate investor Rick Koerber goes on trial a second time on fraud and money ...
https://www.sltrib.com/news/2018/02/22/ ... k-koerber/

https://archive.is/qOdNx


bit from Wikipedia - shows history but not the most recent "news"
Claude Roderick "Rick" Koerber, (born Claud Roderick Franklin 1973, Casper, WY), is a Utah businessman and entrepreneur, who was indicted on charges of orchestrating and running a $100 million Ponzi scheme.[1] Charges were initially dropped, but were refiled in January 2017.[2] After the Appeal Court's denial of Koerber's last-minute appeal attempt to stay the trial,[3] the 8-week jury trial is set to begin on Monday, August 21, 2017.[4][5]
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At arraignment in June 2009, Koerber pleaded not guilty to all charges against him, and a trial was set for September 11, 2012.[6] In November 2009, U.S. Federal prosecutors filed 19 additional charges of fraud against Koerber, including one count of mail fraud, six counts of fraud in the offer and sale of securities, one count of sale of unregistered securities, 10 counts of wire fraud, two counts of money laundering and two counts of tax evasion, bringing the total of charges filed to 22.[7]

During evidentiary hearings a key piece of evidence was thrown out resulting in one charge being dropped because it was based on a draft of a letter to key investors and there was no evidence it was sent.[8]

On March 28, 2014, a federal judge set a new trial date to try the remaining 18 charges,[9] however Judge Clark Waddoups dismissed the case on June 19, 2014 due to the government violating Koerber's right to a speedy trial. The case was dismissed 5 years to the day after Koerber's arraignment.[10] The case was dismissed with prejudice.[11] In December 2014 prosecutors said they were willing to appeal the verdict.[12] Prosecutors appealed to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeal in Denver, Colorado. On January 21, 2016, the court found that Waddoups failed to consider the seriousness of the charges and Koerber's contributions in delaying the trial.[13] The case was sent back to the lower court and Waddoups recused himself from reviewing it. On August 25, 2016, federal judge Jill Parrish ruled that the charges could be reinstated.[14] Koerber was again indicted by a grand jury on January 18, 2017, on 18 charges.[15]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Koerber


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Post by Dolly » Sat Jul 14, 2018 10:51 pm

From pipistrelle post - Peter Walker's photos include one of Karl's OpVec



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Post by Foggy » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:12 am

... parked in a way that it blocks 3 parking spaces, just to show how important Kap'n KooKoo is. :mrgreen:


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Post by pipistrelle » Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:49 am

The punisher skull cracks me up.



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Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

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Post by Dolly » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:25 am

Foggy wrote:
Sun Jul 15, 2018 7:12 am
... parked in a way that it blocks 3 parking spaces, just to show how important Kap'n KooKoo is. :mrgreen:
Yeah, it took 3 spaces to parallel park. But if he parked head first in the space, the monster would have blocked the road. :twisted:


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Post by pipistrelle » Sun Jul 15, 2018 10:51 am

Maybe there's a boat/RV lot where he could have parked but that would have involved walking. These outdoorsy salt-of-the-earth rancher supporters don't seem to like walking much.

Wonder if Kap'n dropped any of that belly while in Florida?

And I wonder how he did get that thing back?

(Sorry, Kap'n, for inadvertently calling it a TacVec—seeing too many flashlight and sunglasses commercials.)



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Re: Bundy related gossip and discussion

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Post by RVInit » Sun Jul 15, 2018 11:39 am

Does anybody know if The Prophet's business is still afloat?


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