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Post by Dolly » Mon Dec 03, 2018 10:13 pm

Ginger Eason was mentioned in another post upthread.

Woman says she was paid to collect absentee ballots in North Carolina House race

An absentee ballot witness on Monday said Monday that a Bladen County, N.C., electioneer paid her to collect absentee ballots from last month's midterm elections.

Ginger Eason told WSOCTV, a local news station in Charlotte, that Leslie McCrae Dowless, Jr. paid her between $75 and $100 to pick up comple ted absentee ballots for North Carolina's 9th District, the results of which are being officially investigated.

“I was helping McCrae pick up ballots,” Eason said to the news outlet, referring to the Bladen County Soil and Water Conservation District supervisor who appears to be at the center of the probe.

Eason added that she didn't see who people were voting for, but that she never mailed the ballots. Instead, she gave them to Dowless, adding that he did not mention to her that what she was doing was illegal.

Dowless, known locally as McCrae, has been named twice in sworn affidavits as someone who worked for Republican candidate Mark Harris's campaign against Democrat Dan McCready.

When asked by WSOCTV about paying people to pick up ballots, Dowless said that he had no comment.

WSOCTV said that it has found what appears to be a targeted effort to illegally pick up ballots in Bladen County.

The news station reported that it consistently found the same people signing as witnesses for the people voting, something it notes is unusual. Eason was listed as signing as a witness for 28 submitted and accepted absentee ballot envelopes.
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Post by Kendra » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:54 am

Why isn't Donald and Company up in arms over VOTER FRAUD? It's OK if you're a Republican?

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Post by Chilidog » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:55 am

Technically, I think this is election fraud, not voter fraud.

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Post by Kendra » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:57 am

Chilidog wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:55 am
Technically, I think this is election fraud, not voter fraud.
Point taken.

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Post by p0rtia » Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:58 am

Chilidog wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:55 am
Technically, I think this is election fraud, not voter fraud.
A technicality that the Rs have been taking advantage of for the past 20 years.
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Post by NMgirl » Tue Dec 04, 2018 10:26 am

p0rtia wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:58 am
Chilidog wrote:
Tue Dec 04, 2018 7:55 am
Technically, I think this is election fraud, not voter fraud.
A technicality that the Rs have been taking advantage of for the past 20 years.
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Post by Addie » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:05 am

WaPo Editorial
The North Carolina midterm debacle shows us where the real threat to elections lies ...

Voter fraud rarely happens in the United States. When it does, it almost always comes in the form of mail-in ballot fraud. Fraudsters can pressure absentee voters to fill out their ballots in a particular way or to hand them over to be filled in by someone else. Unsealed ballots can be changed. Sealed ballots can be trashed, if they come from people who seem likely to vote for the opposition. Play enough of these dirty tricks, and one can change the outcome of a narrow election. ...

Yet Republicans are calling on the board of elections to certify the general election count.

Republicans have spent the past decade crying wolf over voter fraud as a pretext for imposing needlessly complicated ID requirements. These laws tend to discourage Democratic-leaning voters. Yet if there is any threat to the integrity of the franchise, it is absentee ballot fraud — which GOP voter-ID laws cannot deter. And the face of this phenomenon in 2018 might well turn out to be a Republican candidate.

States authentically worried about fraud should spend less time hassling voters for IDs and more on monitoring absentee ballots. Elections officials must assess ballot counts for telling irregularities such as those found in North Carolina’s 9th. And they should audit witness signatures on absentee ballot envelopes to determine whether a suspiciously small number of people signed off on a large number of ballots — or whether the names are even real.

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Post by Kendra » Tue Dec 04, 2018 11:19 am


Why hasn't President Trump, who says he cares about the integrity of elections, tweeted about what's going on in the North Carolina 9th?

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:51 pm

I have to say that this really does sound like election fraud, on the part of the actual officials involved, either that or ineptitude of such a magnitude heretofore not seen, or then again, maybe/probably both.
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Post by Slim Cognito » Tue Dec 04, 2018 1:54 pm

When the bipartisan election board unanimously refused to certify, that's saying something.

(edited to add "unanimously.")
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Post by Notorial Dissent » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:13 pm

Just my two cents worth, but usually when it is that bad, the best solution is to just roundfile and start over fresh and clean with disinterested witnesses disinterested supervising officials.
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Post by Dr. Kenneth Noisewater » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:17 pm

I wouldn't be surprised if this happening elsewhere. How many other election fraud scams were going on by the part of the republicans?

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Post by Addie » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:22 pm

The Hill: Hakeem Jeffries on GOP operatives in NC fraud probe: 'Lock them up'

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Post by Dan1100 » Tue Dec 04, 2018 2:38 pm

Why aren't we hearing about the FBI or Justice Department (especially the Civil Rights division) investigating this?

(I think I know the answer :twisted: )
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Post by Addie » Wed Dec 05, 2018 10:38 am

The New Yorker: Republican Operative Faced Prior Allegations of Election Fraud in Disputed North Carolina District
BuzzFeed News: Inside The North Carolina Republican Vote Machine: Cash, Pills — And Ballots

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Post by Dan1100 » Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:53 am



https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/statu ... 5924244481

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We're changing our rating on this race to Lean Prison.
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Post by Addie » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:01 am

This page will keep updating:
WSOCTV: US House District 9 race investigation: How we got here

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Post by Kendra » Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:05 am

The reporter covering this story locally got a nice five minute or so segment on CNN this morning.

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Post by tencats » Thu Dec 06, 2018 1:42 pm

House Democrats Could Take Action On The North Carolina Election Scandal
December 6, 2018, at 11:57 a.m. ET
“The House still retains the right to decide who is seated,” Nancy Pelosi warned Thursday.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/li ... ud-scandal
ASHINGTON — A growing number of House Democrats on the Oversight Committee want to investigate the North Carolina 9th Congressional District race, where the close finish is being scrutinized as reports of stolen absentee ballots continue to emerge and the race has been left uncertified.

House Democrats are fast approaching a new Congress where they’ll be in the majority and able to pursue whatever investigation they like, and more and more Democrats are expressing outrage over the alleged tampering with ballots in the race in which Republican Mark Harris beat Democratic candidate Dan McCready by only 905 votes.

Rep. Gerry Connolly, who on Wednesday called for an emergency hearing in the House Oversight Committee on the congressional race, said he would “absolutely” support the committee looking into the 9th District race at the start of the new Congress.

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Post by HilltownGrrl » Thu Dec 06, 2018 4:13 pm

Dan1100 wrote:
Thu Dec 06, 2018 12:53 am


https://twitter.com/NateSilver538/statu ... 5924244481

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We're changing our rating on this race to Lean Prison.
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Post by Slim Cognito » Thu Dec 06, 2018 5:11 pm

It appears they've been having questions about election results in this district for years, including the primary. I know there's talk of an election do-over, but are they even sure Harris won the GOP primary?
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Post by Dolly » Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:37 pm

Dem McCready withdraws concession as election fraud claims hit North Carolina race

Democrat Dan McCready announced Thursday that he's withdrawing his concession in North Carolina's 9th Congressional District amid an investigation into potential election fraud.

"Today, I withdraw my concession to Mark Harris," McCready said in a video posted to Twitter while calling on his GOP opponent "to tell us exactly what he knew and when he knew it."

McCready's move comes weeks after he conceded to Harris following the Nov. 6 election. McCready trails the Republican by 905 votes in the race to replace outgoing Rep. Robert Pittenger (R-N.C.).

But in the weeks since the midterm elections, the state's Board of Elections voted not to certify the election results as it continues to investigate allegations of electoral fraud and other voting irregularities related to absentee ballots. <SNIP>
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I didn’t serve overseas in the Marines to come home to NC and watch a criminal, bankrolled by my opponent, take away people’s very right to vote. Today I withdraw my concession and call on Mark Harris to end his silence and tell us exactly what he knew, and when.

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Post by Notorial Dissent » Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:56 pm

It is looking like this is going to blow up in several people's faces, all GOP from the sounds of it. It was sounding like from the interviews I saw this evening, that the election taint could have affected other districts as well.
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Post by sad-cafe » Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:01 pm

probably other states as well-

Georgia-Stacy Abrams???

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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Fri Dec 07, 2018 10:21 am

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