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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Thu Apr 26, 2018 8:58 pm

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NEW: @RepublicanStudy Chair @RepMarkWalker says next House chaplain should have a family to better relate to lawmakers; Catholics in House are infuriated by the remarks


I think the next House Chaplin should be an atheist so as to not favor any one religious group in Congress. ;)
Or a pagan or Native American. :-D


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Post by Suranis » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:15 pm

Oh, I think most Catholics know exactly where they will be in the Dominisionists Christian Theocracy. The Klu Kluk Klan showed them that.


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Post by DejaMoo » Thu Apr 26, 2018 9:20 pm

Suranis wrote:
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Oh, I think most Catholics know exactly where they will be in the Dominisionists Christian Theocracy. The Klu Kluk Klan showed them that.
Plus the fact that when religion was in the public schools, it was the Protestant flavor, which is what led to the establishment of parochial schools in the US.

Again, in the old days, religious freedom mainly meant the right of followers of one version of Christianity to not have another version forced upon them. The assumption that all Christian faiths are pretty much alike is both prevalent and utterly incorrect.



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Post by Suranis » Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:27 am

Thanks to Wonkette, we now know what the Priest actually said to piss Ryan off, back in Nov 6th.
May all members be mindful that the institutions and structures of our great nation guarantee the opportunities that have allowed some to achieve great success, while others continue to struggle. May their efforts these days guarantee that there are not winners and losers under new tax laws, but benefits balanced and shared by all Americans.
Read more at https://wonkette.com/633111/paul-ryan-m ... fD4tZmt.99
The horror. The Indignity.


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Post by Somerset » Fri Apr 27, 2018 12:31 pm

Suranis wrote:
Fri Apr 27, 2018 11:27 am
Thanks to Wonkette, we now know what the Priest actually said to piss Ryan off, back in Nov 6th.
May all members be mindful that the institutions and structures of our great nation guarantee the opportunities that have allowed some to achieve great success, while others continue to struggle. May their efforts these days guarantee that there are not winners and losers under new tax laws, but benefits balanced and shared by all Americans.
Read more at https://wonkette.com/633111/paul-ryan-m ... fD4tZmt.99
The horror. The Indignity.
The question.

Of why a religious person is a part of a legislative body in a government where church and state are supposed to be separate.



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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Fri Apr 27, 2018 1:12 pm

Because the superstitious are still in the majority. And when they become the minority they will insist that those who don't believe silly stories respect their superstitions.



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Post by Volkonski » Fri Apr 27, 2018 7:30 pm

Religious tensions flare after chaplain's ouster

http://thehill.com/homenews/house/38528 ... ins-ouster
Impromptu remarks by Rep. Mark Walker (R-N.C.), a Southern Baptist preacher who’s also serving on the bipartisan search committee, have only stirred tensions further.

The chairman of the conservative Republican Study Committee, Walker told reporters Thursday he thought the next chaplain should have a family with “adult children” so they can better relate to and counsel lawmakers with spouses and kids.

Democratic and some GOP lawmakers felt the comments were blatantly anti-Catholic since many Catholic priests, like Conroy, take a vow of celibacy.

At a closed-door GOP conference meeting Friday, Rep. Peter King (R-N.Y.), a Catholic, stood up and took Walker to task for the remarks.


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Post by Volkonski » Sun Apr 29, 2018 11:16 am


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Post by fierceredpanda » Thu May 03, 2018 9:51 am

Um, Mr. Soon-to-be-Former-Speaker, you do know you were speaking out loud just now, don't you?

New York Magazine: Paul Ryan Warns If Republicans Lose House, Cover-ups Will End
Paul Ryan appeared at a financial conference to warn that, if Democrats win control of either the House or the Senate in the November elections, “you’ll have gridlock, you’ll have subpoenas.” The gridlock part is true, but it is basically the case already. The Republican legislative agenda has come to a halt, and neither the party nor even its intellectual class has any ideas about which kinds of bills they ought to pass.

What really would change with Democratic control of a chamber is the subpoena part. But it’s worth spelling out just what it is Ryan is warning will happen — and what, by implication, he is confessing.

Ryan’s House has been run essentially as a subordinate arm of the Trump administration. Ryan and his party have quashed votes to compel release of Donald Trump’s tax returns, and they have used their investigative power not to oversee the presidency but to harass and intimidate the Department of Justice into falling into line behind the president’s whims, to the point where the acting attorney general had to bluntly accuse House Republicans of trying to “extort” him. Trump and his family have used their power to enrich themselves personally, with no hearings or oversight whatsoever from the House. His Cabinet members have likewise misspent funds and abused their authority without any accountability from the committees that are putatively tasked with the job.

Paul Ryan doesn’t like to talk about this part of his job, because he cherishes his reputation as an idea maven. But Ryan has played an invaluable role covering up and enabling Trump administration scandals. When he says his party needs to keep control of the House to prevent subpoenas, he is both promising the cover-ups will continue if his party keeps its control of government, and expressing his clear belief that he opposes any level of independent oversight of the Executive branch.


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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Tue Aug 07, 2018 9:29 am

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/201 ... P/amp.html?
The humiliating demise of Paul Ryan

Ryan’s big ideas ossified in college — that heady time of imbalance between intellectual self-confidence and one’s actual experience of life. Most of us recover; Ryan did not. Thus his distressingly attenuated enthusiasm for the novels of Ayn Rand.

In Rand’s telling, altruism is a sham; social consciousness a cover for envy of one’s betters; government the ultimate enemy. Only the creative selfishness practiced by a small class of capitalist ubermensch — the sole characters untouched by her relentless misanthropy — can rise above humankind’s collective mediocrity.

Rand’s Darwinian landscape speaks only to adults privileged enough to imagine it in safety. Which is to say Ryan’s patrons — the Republican donor class.

For Ryan, they were the constituency that mattered most, with Rand’s fever-dream a template for policy proposals. Insulated from reality by the presidency of Barack Obama, he developed the “Ryan Budget,” a Randian wish-list with no chance of enactment. Its various iterations offered enormous income tax cuts for the wealthy; eliminated taxes on capital gains, dividends, and interest; and abolished the corporate income and estate taxes. Others eliminated Obamacare without anything to take its place, offering still more upper-income tax cuts.


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Thanks TiredRetired. That's a winner. :thumbs:


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Post by kate520 » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:01 am

Written by Richard NorthPatterson. :shock: No wonder it’s so good. Thanks TRL.


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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:11 am

The author did a great job of summarizing Ryan's philosophy and how it played in real life, plus Patterson knows how to create a turn of phrase. :bighug:


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Post by Tiredretiredlawyer » Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:14 am

Tiredretiredlawyer wrote:
Tue Aug 07, 2018 10:11 am
The author did a great job of summarizing Ryan's philosophy and how it played in real life, plus Patterson knows how to create a turn of phrase. :bighug:
Edit: Ryan's shameful hold of his Speaker position whilst doing nothing I hope frustrates Repubs. They get a taste of their own medicine.


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