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Post by Addie » Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:30 am

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'Trump has hijacked the election': House Republicans in panic mode

Worries deepen that Trump's charged immigration rhetoric will cost the GOP more seats.


House Speaker Paul Ryan got President Donald Trump on the phone Sunday for one final plea on behalf of anxious Republicans: Please, please talk up the booming economy in the final hours before Election Day.

But Trump, unsurprisingly, had another issue on his mind. He boasted to Ryan that his focus on immigration has fired up the base, according to a source familiar with the call.

Two days out from an expected Democratic takeover of the House, Republicans focused on the chamber are profoundly worried that Trump’s obsession with all things immigration will exacerbate their losses. Many of these same Republicans welcomed Trump’s initial talk about the migrant caravan and border security two weeks ago, hoping it would gin up the GOP base in some at-risk, Republican-held districts.

But they now fear Trump went overboard — and that it could cost them dearly in key suburban districts, from Illinois to Texas. Many of them have cringed at Trump’s threats to unilaterally end birthright citizenship, as well as his recent racially-tinged ad suggesting that immigrants are police killers. The president's drumbeat, they say, is drowning out news any incumbent president would be negligent not to dwell on: that the economy added a quarter-million jobs last quarter, and unemployment is below 4 percent.

“Trump has hijacked the election,” said one senior House Republican aide of Trump's focus on immigration. “This is not what we expected the final weeks of the election to focus on.”
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The Week: Trump has 'hijacked' the midterms with his immigration tirades, suburban House Republicans fret

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Post by pipistrelle » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:06 am

The economy isn't "booming," and tariffs are looming.

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Addie wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:30 am
Politico
'Trump has hijacked the election': House Republicans in panic mode

Worries deepen that Trump's charged immigration rhetoric will cost the GOP more seats.


House Speaker Paul Ryan got President Donald Trump on the phone Sunday for one final plea on behalf of anxious Republicans: Please, please talk up the booming economy in the final hours before Election Day.

But Trump, unsurprisingly, had another issue on his mind. He boasted to Ryan that his focus on immigration has fired up the base, according to a source familiar with the call.

:snippity:
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The Week: Trump has 'hijacked' the midterms with his immigration tirades, suburban House Republicans fret
All about Me! Me! Me! and no considertation for the party that promoted him and enabled his presidency. More like: your job is done keep quiet now!

How much would is take that the Republican party would not nominate dotus for a second term?

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Post by much ado » Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:34 pm

RTH10260 wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:32 pm
:snippity:

How much would is take that the Republican party would not to nominate dotus for a second term?
Well, a huge loss right about now would certainly help.

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RTH10260 wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 4:32 pm
Addie wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 6:30 am
Politico
'Trump has hijacked the election': House Republicans in panic mode

Worries deepen that Trump's charged immigration rhetoric will cost the GOP more seats.


House Speaker Paul Ryan got President Donald Trump on the phone Sunday for one final plea on behalf of anxious Republicans: Please, please talk up the booming economy in the final hours before Election Day.

But Trump, unsurprisingly, had another issue on his mind. He boasted to Ryan that his focus on immigration has fired up the base, according to a source familiar with the call.

:snippity:
Adding:
The Week: Trump has 'hijacked' the midterms with his immigration tirades, suburban House Republicans fret
All about Me! Me! Me! and no considertation for the party that promoted him and enabled his presidency. More like: your job is done keep quiet now!

How much would is take that the Republican party would not to nominate dotus for a second term?
Someone would have to run against him and beat him in the primaries. Someone like Kasich or maybe even Jeff Flake.

I think if he lost in the primaries that the MAGAbillies might leave and split the Republican Party in two. :daydream:
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Post by Slim Cognito » Mon Nov 05, 2018 5:29 pm

i think some trump family indictments, maybe an unindicted co-conspirator thingie, might do it. Kushner or Stone singing like a bird? Of course, that's assuming trump doesn't burn the Mueller investigation to the ground before the week is out.
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Post by Orlylicious » Mon Nov 05, 2018 7:50 pm

Fox News (!) just showed Gillum +7 for Florida Governor!!

And had Ron DeSantis on. Ron's supporters didn't know when to cheer. Martha McCallum's questions mostly began with "Are you worried about...". His mouth says not worried but you can see the fear in his eyes. They know. The Democrat Party's biggest group of voters are Black Women.

Republicans, you shouldn't have pissed them off. Here they come!


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Rut roh! Right now on Tucker Carlson (Monday night, 8:25pm ET), with Dana Perino as guest (I have the sound off) the huge chyron says:

LOOKING PAST THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS


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Post by Orlylicious » Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:08 pm

Oh Lord, indeed Hannity will be joined by Rush and Donald at a rally. Very very loudly, drowning Sean out, was (I kid you not) "Memory" from Cats! :lol: :lol:

3/4 of the screen has this in huge type with Hannity in front of a rally crowd and huge American flag. Bill Shine must be having an orgasm. Enjoy it one last night, boys, it's over. Hope Rudy is there with them.
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DEMOCRATS' POST-MIDTERM AGENDA
Rescind the tax cuts
Impeach President Trump
Interesting tell about the order of those two.
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bob wrote:
Mon Nov 05, 2018 9:18 pm
DEMOCRATS' POST-MIDTERM AGENDA
Rescind the tax cuts
Impeach President Trump
Interesting tell about the order of those two.
Yes, the tax cuts that did not actually benefit "the base" (which of course they have not figured out)

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Post by Addie » Tue Nov 06, 2018 1:14 pm

WaPo - Jennifer Rubin
The final polls tell us why Trump may sink the GOP

The last two major generic polls came in Monday, with CNN showing a 13-point lead (larger than virtually all other recent surveys) and George Washington University poll showing an 8-point lead for the same group of people surveyed twice before. Interestingly, GWU points to higher levels of engagement (e.g., signing a petition, making a donation, attending an event) for Democrats than for Republicans.

The polls have similar results to one important question: Does the voter approve or disapprove of President Trump’s performance? Less than a third strongly approve (GWU 28 percent/CNN 30 percent), a small number somewhat approve (15/9) or somewhat disapprove (6/10) but a large plurality (47/45) strongly disapprove. Trump’s dedicated followers represent a much smaller percentage of the electorate than his most ardent critics, which does raise a dilemma for Republicans. Trump, whom a strong plurality intensely dislikes, has told voters the midterms are all about him. ...

For once, Democrats are happy to agree. (“At a Northern Virginia campaign rally, former president Barack Obama said the election will define the soul of America, as other Democrats accused Trump of fearmongering.”) What’s more, Democrats such as Obama have elevated the midterms to a referendum not on some Trump policies but on what kind of country he wants. (“The character of this country is on the ballot. The politics we expect is on the ballot. How we conduct ourselves in public life is on the ballot”). Making this about something greater than one issue, about the soul of America, gives voters some uplift at the end of a bitter campaign when voters want to feel good about their vote. Democrats are saying you can feel good — make that, noble — by casting a pro-democracy, pro-civility vote. ...

Moreover, Trump is making quite clear what issue he thinks is critical. Trump not only nationalized the midterms, depriving candidates of the ability to make individualized appeals and focus on local interests; he did it on an issue — immigration — about which a large percentage of Americans disapprove of the president’s handling. (CNN shows only 37 percent approve, 59 percent disapprove.) Rather than close on the economy, which most Americans consider a strong suit, he goes with immigration. Go figure. (One theory is that he is obsessed with pleasing his hardcore base which lives for his xenophobic rants; another is that it’s the only issue on which he thinks he can pick up red states for the Senate, even if it adds to House losses elsewhere.)

In sum, Trump is reminding the plurality of the country why it disapproves so strongly and is reminding the somewhat approve/somewhat disapprove segments of the electorate why it might be a really good idea to have a check on Trump. (Are we really going to send thousands of troops and fire into a crowd?). Ironically, during the closing days of the 2016 election, Trump was remarkably contained and on message. Now, with his back to the wall, he’s all fire and brimstone.

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Post by Addie » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:15 am

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RIP, California GOP: Republicans lash out after midterm election debacle

‘There is no message. There is no messenger. There is no money. And there is no infrastructure,' says one top Republican.


LOS ANGELES — In the wake of a near-political annihilation in California that has left even longtime conservative stronghold Orange County bereft of a single Republican in the House of Representatives, a growing chorus of GOP loyalists here say there’s only one hope for reviving the flatlining party: Blow it up and start again from scratch. ...

“The California Republican Party isn’t salvageable at this time. The Grand Old Party is dead,” wrote former state GOP Assembly leader Kristin Olsen, who startled fellow Republicans with a brutally frank op-ed this week saying Republicans must acknowledge their “serious problem” in California, particularly the effects of toxicity of President Trump.

GOP strategist John Weaver, who has worked California races and also has represented the presidential campaign of Ohio governor John Kasich, seconded Olsen’s view, tweeting that the effects of the Trump presidency have doomed any chance of resurrection. “In one fell swoop Trump & Republicans who willingly handcuffed themselves to him have turned Orange County into a GOP wasteland,’’ he tweeted this week. “You want to see the future? Look no further than the demographic death spiral in the place once considered a cornerstone of the party.”

Madrid argues that many California Republican leaders remain in complete denial of the fact that their continued support of Trump presidency has sealed the fate of the GOP — and last week’s midterm elections revealed the true extent of the GOP’s rot in California, where the state party has now shrunken to third party status.

“Now, it’s just open warfare. The barbarians have broken through the gates. The army is in full retreat,’’ said Madrid, who adds there’s no hope left for a party that for years has been on a path toward destruction. “Burn it to the ground. I want to reconstitute.’’

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Post by pipistrelle » Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:22 am

Addie wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 11:15 am
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“The California Republican Party isn’t salvageable at this time. The Grand Old Party is dead,” wrote former state GOP Assembly leader Kristin Olsen, who startled fellow Republicans with a brutally frank op-ed this week saying Republicans must acknowledge their “serious problem” in California, particularly the effects of toxicity of President Trump.
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California leads the nation ... :mrgreen:
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Post by Estiveo » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:39 pm

So the GOP withers and dies, as the Democrats slowly split between the centrists and the progressives, and we end up with two parties again.

Lather, rinse, repeat every 150 years or so.
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Post by Addie » Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:51 pm

Something like this?
HuffPo OpEd - Robert Kuttner: For Democrats, Progressive Is The New Moderate
Estiveo wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:39 pm
So the GOP withers and dies, as the Democrats slowly split between the centrists and the progressives, and we end up with two parties again.

Lather, rinse, repeat every 150 years or so.

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Post by ZekeB » Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:23 pm

Estiveo wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:39 pm
So the GOP withers and dies, as the Democrats slowly split between the centrists and the progressives, and we end up with two parties again.

Lather, rinse, repeat every 150 years or so.
Right now centrists and progressives wouldn’t be a Bad Thing at all.
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ZekeB wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 2:23 pm
Estiveo wrote:
Sat Nov 17, 2018 1:39 pm
So the GOP withers and dies, as the Democrats slowly split between the centrists and the progressives, and we end up with two parties again.

Lather, rinse, repeat every 150 years or so.
Right now centrists and progressives wouldn’t be a Bad Thing at all.
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Post by Estiveo » Sat Nov 17, 2018 4:51 pm

My point is, in 50-100-150 years the 2 parties will bear no resemblence to their origin, and every resemblence to what we have today. It all recycles. It's inevitable.

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Post by Addie » Sat Nov 24, 2018 4:37 pm

WaPo - Dan Balz
House results underscore that what’s good for Trump isn’t so good for the GOP

When President Trump won the White House in 2016, he did it by hijacking the Republican Party. Now, after what happened in the midterm elections, it’s clearer than ever that the president’s fortunes and his party’s future are at odds.

During the final weeks of the fall campaign, Trump put the Republican Party on his back, assuring that the elections would become even more of a referendum on his performance than the typical midterm in a president’s first term. As a result, Republicans paid a hefty price, with potentially longer-term implications.

Yes, Republicans added to their narrow majority in the Senate. But that came by reinforcing what already is the party’s greatest strength: Trump with his rallies maximized support in solid red states, especially among voters in rural areas and small-town communities.

But the Trump-centric strategy backfired spectacularly in the race for control of the House, as suburban voters revolted against the president, delivering a rebuke to his party’s candidates in district after district. Democrats have gained 39 seats in the House with the possibility of hitting 40 depending on the outcome of the still uncalled election in California’s 21st District.

If the enthusiasm for Trump in rural and small-town America constituted the story after 2016, the revolt against him in the suburbs, led by female voters, has become the story of the 2018 elections. The more you analyze the House results, the more the GOP’s suburban problem stands out.

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Post by Orlylicious » Sun Nov 25, 2018 4:23 am

:lol: Might be time to rub their face in it a bit, this title is true: :|

2018 GOP Rattled by Trump -- They Were Right!

And now our girl Cindy seems to be putting that state in play. Did they have a toddler do her oppo? :lol:
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Post by Dr. Kenneth Noisewater » Sat May 18, 2019 4:29 pm

Didn't know where to post this but here's a Twitter thread in which representative Justin Amash becomes the first Republican to call for trump's impeachment.

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Post by kate520 » Sat May 18, 2019 4:32 pm

It’s a trap!
DEFEND DEMOCRACY

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