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Post #176 by everalm » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:29 pm

But...but....can't you see...they look the same.....they're both blick..... :sick: :yankyank:Fecking birther muppets make me sick........ :evil:



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Post #177 by chinacreekpj » Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:56 pm

Funny, he does a couple mock-umentaries about crazy conspiracy theories and then get's serious about one of the craziest. My theory? He's getting high on his own supply. He must be getting contact-stupid from all these idiots he's researched. Or maybe he got senile and forgot he was a skeptic. :lol:



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Post #178 by esseff44 » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:01 pm

Is there even any evidence AT ALL that Ann *might* have met Frank Marshall Davis? Or is this entirely the fever dream of some deliriously mad Obama haters? (NOT that there being any evidence of a meeting would give any actual credence to the story, I'm just curious as to whether it's completely ridiculous or impossibly ridiculous.)

They lived on the same island. Obama played with Marshall's children. His grandfather took him to visit them. As far as I can tell, this was while SAD was in Indonesia. There is no mention of an acquaintance of any kind before Obama was born by anyone anywhere who was in a position to know. FMD was a well-known figure at the time. [/break1]telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/2601914/Frank-Marshall-Davis-alleged-Communist-was-early-influence-on-Barack-Obama.html]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne ... Obama.htmlThe smear is to turn Obama into a communist in the minds of the voters. Possibility has nothing to do with it. Propaganda depends on associations and linkage in spite of all evidence being to the contrary. It's at its best when it turns good or innocent things into bad and evil things in the minds of the gullible.


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Post #179 by Kriselda Gray » Tue Sep 11, 2012 1:32 pm

The smear is to turn Obama into a communist in the minds of the voters. Possibility has nothing to do with it. Propaganda depends on associations and linkage in spite of all evidence being to the contrary. It's at its best when it turns good or innocent things into bad and evil things in the minds of the gullible.

Thanks Esseff.... You know, sometimes I miss the good old days of Watergate when trying to remove a President required things like the President doing something illegal, evidence and due process, as opposed to thinking it should just take a bunch of vile lies and smears spread around by hateful bigots.


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Post #180 by Sugar Magnolia » Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:47 pm

So maybe we need to get the word out to anyone who receives a CD to mark it "return to sender" and throw it back in the mail. Make him deal with all the returned mail. And maybe he'll have to pay for it to be returned!



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Post #181 by Loren » Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:57 pm

FWIW, I looked into what it costs to get a full-page ad in the New York Post. It's not nearly as much as you'd expect, as the best figure I could track down was $6,600.Not chump change, but orders of magnitude away from the $90K figure being tossed around in the article.



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Post #182 by 1 guest » Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:08 pm

Simple, direct, irrefutable visual answer to the "not BO Senior's son" claims.http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/data?pid=avimage&iid=iosx2WS2ZhhYMark Ndesandjo, half-brother of President Obama.



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Post #183 by Loren » Tue Sep 11, 2012 6:51 pm

Bloomberg BusinessWeek: [/break1]businessweek.com/articles/2012-09-11/new-york-post-runs-boldest-anti-obama-ad-yet]'New York Post' Runs Boldest Anti-Obama Ad Yet





It’s difficult to square Gilbert’s claim that Obama is Davis’s Hawaii-born love child with the equally preposterous but resilient theories from the uninformed right that Obama is a secret Muslim born in Kenya. The only “evidence” the ad provides is a pair of side-by-side photos of Obama and Davis, who bear no resemblance to each other aside from the fact that both men are black and, in the photos, are facing the same direction.




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Post #184 by Patagoniagirl » Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:28 pm

I hope he sends one to me. Remember when AOL sent discs in your newspaper every month or so? I had the whole collection! They make perfect clay smoothers for working on the wheel, but I'm almost out now.

My MIL's next-door neighbor takes free discs like that, ties them to fishing line, and hangs them from a wire strung across his vegetable garden. Apparently the sunlight reflecting off of them scares garden pests away. He could probably use a dozen copies of that DVD.

True...I do that too to repel pests. But shouldn't this be in the gardening thread! :oops:



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Post #185 by mimi » Tue Sep 11, 2012 10:17 pm

Bloomberg BusinessWeek: [/break1]businessweek.com/articles/2012-09-11/new-york-post-runs-boldest-anti-obama-ad-yet]'New York Post' Runs Boldest Anti-Obama Ad Yet





It’s difficult to square Gilbert’s claim that Obama is Davis’s Hawaii-born love child with the equally preposterous but resilient theories from the uninformed right that Obama is a secret Muslim born in Kenya. The only “evidence” the ad provides is a pair of side-by-side photos of Obama and Davis, who bear no resemblance to each other aside from the fact that both men are black and, in the photos, are facing the same direction.

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The top story on WND.com right now strikes a triumphant tone as it explains how—after being rejected by the New York Times, among other publications—director Joel Gilbert personally showed up at the New York Post’s offices and convinced the right-leaning paper to run the ad. The story is titled “New York Post Ad Exposes Obama’s Real Father.” So apparently ads are news sources now. Then again, this comes from a site that considers Rush Limbaugh’s every pronouncement newsworthy, and gives bylines to Jerome Corsi, an outspoken birther who led the charge in the Swift Boat smearing of John Kerry in 2004.




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Post #186 by aarrgghh » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:47 am

from a [/break1]freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2929347/posts]discussion about the smear movie:





Well, he could QUIET this claim simply by allowing us to see his DNA. But everything else of Barry is quiet and secret. The transparent administration, you see, nothing about color.

Seems to me that it wouldn’t be impossible to test this, at least in the negative. Obama goes to some campaign event and leaves some of his DNA on a water glass; we have George Obama, who is definitely the son of Obama Sr. and is clearly (a) poor and (b) not that nuts about his purported brother. Le voila.

[highlight]I have to believe[/highlight] that some where, some how someone has secretly swabbed Obummer's fork, spoon, glass, or beer bottle after a meal or meeting to collect his DNA. Then they would need to get a similar sample from his half brother in Kenya. That should tell us whether the two have the same father.

um, no ... you don't have to believe any of this crap.





unless ... you really want everyone to know you're a complete moron.





hmm ... that's actually good to know. le voila!



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Post #187 by chinacreekpj » Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:09 pm

When will O-blah-blah unseal his DNA records????

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Post #188 by bob » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:11 am

Writer and director, JOEL GILBERT, PROMISES MAJOR NATIONAL NEWS ANNOUNCEMENT TOMORROW...

Perhaps?:





WND: [/break1]wnd.com/2012/09/media-bypass-dreams-from-my-real-father-mailed-to-1-million/]Media bypass: 'Dreams' mailed to 1 million


Crucial swing state targeted with 'true story' of Obama's radical origins





One million copies of the documentary film that presents evidence Barack Obama’s real father was Communist Party activist Frank Marshall Davis have been mailed to households in the crucial presidential-election swing state Ohio.





Filmmaker Joel Gilbert told WND his mass distribution of his documentary “Dreams from My Real Father” is an attempt to bypass an establishment media blackout.





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Gilbert also has sent another 100,000 copies to New Hampshire, and he has plans to send 1 million to six more swing states.





His effort through his company, Highway 61 Entertainment, is governed by the 2010 Citizens United Supreme Court decision, which barred government from restricting independent political expenditures by corporations and unions.



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Post #189 by aarrgghh » Wed Sep 19, 2012 2:31 am

His effort through his company, Highway 61 Entertainment, is governed by the 2010 Citizens [Grifters] United Supreme Court decision, which barred government from restricting independent political expenditures by corporations and unions.




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Post #190 by Foggy » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:18 pm

And who, I'd like to know, funded the mailing of 1,100,000 copies of a DVD? That can't be cheap.



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Post #191 by everalm » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:36 pm

Never mind the postage, the costs of mass duplication of 1.1 million DVD's would run into the sharp end of 420K+For bulk runs the provider will create a glass master to do pressing on plastic DVD's, then there's the packagingFor standard single sided DVD's that will run about 32 cents per DVD pressedPaper sleeve with generic printing about 6 cents per, another 20 cents for a case although not really necessarySo say 38 cents per = $418,000



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Post #192 by chinacreekpj » Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:36 pm

And who, I'd like to know, funded the mailing of 1,100,000 copies of a DVD? That can't be cheap.

It's almost as if somebody made up a purposely ineffectual DVD with just enough air of "conservative authenticity" to entice a super-pac/secret fund/reclusive billionaire to fund it (and huge salaries for those involved)



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Post #193 by bob » Thu Sep 20, 2012 1:02 am

ORYR [/break1]blogspot.com/2012/09/joel-gilbert-punks-media-mails-1000000.html?showComment=1348080733989#c2640682563280659106]comment:

I disagree, Frank Marshall Davis in my opinion is Obama's biological father. [highlight]This however does not prove in any way that he was born here[/highlight]. Still Obama's birth certificate is a forgery. I have had the facial recognition pictures on my site for 3 years. Just click Obama's father on the site. Are you aware that Davis was a pornographic photographer and that Obama's mother was a client?

1. Huh? Birther-wet-dream-father Davis and SAD (both American citizens) went abroad to have this fictional love child born?2. McCain was born abroad to two-U.S.-citizen parents. Just sayin'.[/break1]blogspot.com/2012/09/joel-gilbert-punks-media-mails-1000000.html?showComment=1348085892262#c9005172277759738755]Bonus:

It may all be true:1. Obama's biological father is Frank Marshall Davis.2. Obama was born in Kenya.3. Obama lost his US citizenship upon being adopted in Indonesia.4. Obama is a Muslim that never celebrated a birthday before he entered public office:look this one up, interesting!5. Obama is a homosexual that married is Pakitani roomate and was active in the Chicago Bath House Gay Culture.6. He dogded the draft his freshman year of college, which is why he changed his name (not legally) to Barack Hussien Obama, to avoid the slammer.7. He forged his draft card and birth certificates to try to hide all the bullshit.8. American Media covers for him because they are a bunch of homosexual communist misfits just like Obama.



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Post #194 by borealis » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:15 am

They've hit their heads on a concrete wall too many times or else they have been on an oxycontin binge with Rush.You'd think there would be no question both Obama's parents were American Citizens in this case. It negates all the birther arguments. They really have turned into a confederacy of dunces.



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Post #195 by aarrgghh » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:54 am

It may all be true:

well, isn't that something ... :-k








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Post #196 by mimi » Thu Sep 20, 2012 2:22 pm

Alabama GOP Chairman Promotes Fringe Birther Movie, Calls it Factual and 'Frightening'Submitted by Miranda Blue on Thu, 09/20/2012 - 11:27amSpeaking to a Republican women’s group in Alabama yesterday, state GOP chairman Bill Armistead recommended to his audience a fringe birther movie that claims that President Obama’s real father is American labor activist Frank Marshall Davis, according Mobile Press-Register political editor George Talbot, who was reporting the event on Twitter:[imgwidth=500]http://www.rightwingwatch.org/sites/default/files/images/thumbnails/armistead.jpg[/imgwidth]

remainder is here:[/break1]rightwingwatch.org/content/alabama-gop-chairman-promotes-fringe-birther-movie-calls-it-factual-and-frightening]http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/a ... rightening



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Post #197 by mimi » Fri Sep 21, 2012 10:44 am

Here is the link to George Talbot's post. (it's his tweet shown in my post above.)








“We have to win this election. This is about our country. Our country will not be the same,” Armistead said. “I’m convinced, if Obama wins, our children and grandchildren will not live under the same conditions that we’ve lived in these wonderful years. Obama has a different ideology than we do.”





Armistead suggested that audience members see the movie '2016: Obama’s America,' a documentary by conservative commentator Dinesh D'Souza that is critical of the president.





“If you haven’t seen it, you should,” he said. “But I’m going to tell you about another movie. The name of it is ‘Dreams From My Real Father.’ That is absolutely frightening. I’ve seen it. I verified that it is factual, all of it. People can determine.”





The movie, not in theaters but available to purchase on DVD, claims that Obama’s real father is Frank Marshall Davis, an American labor activist and organizer for the Communist Party USA.

emphasis mine.


more here:


[/break1]al.com/live/2012/09/alabama_gop_chairman_recommend.html]http://blog.al.com/live/2012/09/alabama ... mmend.html








Anybody think there aren't lots more GOP officials saying similar to groups?





Meanwhile, Left In Alabama is on it and wonders if Armistead's comments cause a problem for (Madison County Republican Executive Committee member and former GOP congressional candidate) Hugh McInnish's birfer theory.





[/break1]leftinalabama.com/diary/10116/al-gop-chair-bill-armistead-promotes-new-birther-flick-that-says-obama-is-a-citizen]http://www.leftinalabama.com/diary/1011 ... -a-citizen



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Post #198 by Loren » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:24 pm

In the latest edition of Birther infighting, Pastor Manning takes offense at Gilbert's claim that Obama's father is Davis:



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Post #199 by Wintermute » Sat Sep 22, 2012 2:35 pm

Josh at TPM has just figured out who Gilbert since he is experiencing legal difficulties over snippets of Dreams posted on TPM.


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Post #200 by Whatever4 » Sat Sep 22, 2012 6:15 pm

In the latest edition of Birther infighting, Pastor Manning takes offense at Gilbert's claim that Obama's father is Davis:

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