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2016 Governor: North Carolina

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Post by MN-Skeptic » Fri Nov 18, 2016 9:45 pm

This has turned out to be a real nail biter.

Current vote total -

Roy Cooper (D) 2,288,867 Votes
Pat McCrory (R) Incumbent 2,282,267 Votes

The Republicans are doing everything possible to challenge and delay.

Cooper’s team claims insurmountable lead
McCrory’s campaign and legal team have been arguing in public that the number of complaints demonstrates widespread voter irregularities, if not outright fraud, although that pattern has not yet emerged in the protests that county boards of election are considering.

Even if all those protests were upheld, which would entail as many as 200 ballots, it wouldn’t change the outcome, Elias said. Wake County alone added about 2,000 votes to Cooper’s lead on Friday. The State Board of Elections, which had not yet entered all the data from the counties, on Friday afternoon showed Cooper with a 6,600 lead.

McCrory campaign spokesman Ricky Diaz disagreed.

"More than 80 counties have postponed their canvas meetings until next week, so let's be clear: The counting is not complete and there is still no certified outcome. Roy Cooper is making presumptuous statements based on piecemeal results from a handful of Democrat-leaning counties in order to deflect attention away from serious voter fraud concerns that are emerging across the state.

“The real question people should be asking is, why is Roy Cooper fighting to count the votes of dead people and felons?”
More at the link above.

Another long article about the NC election is at the New York Times - North Carolina Republicans Battle to Save Governor, Trailing by Whisker


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Post by esseff44 » Sun Nov 27, 2016 12:46 pm

The Republican incumbent governor is not ready to concede to his Democratic opponent in a close race.

http://www.newsobserver.com/news/politi ... 84658.html
The governor is asking the N.C. State Board of Elections to hold an expedited hearing on an appeal of the Durham County election board’s denial of a request for a recount there. The state board on Saturday called for a Sunday afternoon meeting by phone to discuss this matter and a federal lawsuit challenging same-day registration ballots.

“If a Durham recount provides the same results as earlier posted, the McCrory Committee will be prepared to withdraw its statewide recount request in the Governors race,” the campaign’s news release says.

McCrory has been trailing Attorney General Roy Cooper by about 7,700 votes as counties around the state finalize their counts with provisional and absentee ballots. McCrory, in order to meet a deadline last week, gave notice that he would request a statewide recount.

He is permitted to demand a recount as long as the margin between he and Cooper remains less than 10,000 votes.



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Post by Suranis » Sun Nov 27, 2016 2:38 pm

So how come no-one has asked El Molestente about why the Hillary recount is a scam and this one isn't? (Rhetorical question)

Anyway it sounds like a recount is warranted here.


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Post by MN-Skeptic » Mon Dec 05, 2016 4:57 pm

For those folks who didn't see this bit of news in the Gay Rights thread -

Gov. Pat McCrory concedes defeat to Roy Cooper as Durham recount wraps up
Republican Gov. Pat McCrory announced Monday that he’s conceded the election to Democrat Roy Cooper, the state’s attorney general, and will support transition efforts.

McCrory made the concession in a video message posted around noon Monday as a recount he requested in Durham County entered its final hours. Durham officials plan to finish the recount later Monday, but early results from the recount showed virtually no change in the vote tally there.

“I personally believe that the majority of our citizens have spoken, and we now should do everything we can to support the 75th governor of North Carolina, Roy Cooper,” McCrory says in the video. “The McCrory administration team will assist in every way to help the new administration make a smooth transition.

“It’s time to celebrate our democratic process and respect what I see to be the ultimate outcome of the closest North Carolina governor’s race in modern history.”

With the concession, McCrory becomes the state’s first governor to lose a re-election bid since a constitutional amendment in the 1970s gave governors the ability to seek more than one term. His defeat followed the nation’s second costliest gubernatorial race and North Carolina’s most expensive ever.
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Post by Suranis » Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:11 pm

The paper was far classier than the Governer himself, becasue they left out the first art of his sentence.
After the obligatory “thank you” to Our Veterans, who make Christmas possible by keeping terrorists away from Baby Jebus, McCrory finally got around to the concession part:
During this wonderful season, it’s also time to celebrate our democratic process and respect what I see to be the ultimate outcome of the closest North Carolina Governor’s race in modern history. Despite continued questions that should be answered regarding the voting process, I personally believe that the majority of our citizens have spoken...

Read more at http://wonkette.com/609092/north-caroli ... CLuDIGd.99


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Post by Dan1100 » Thu Dec 15, 2016 10:08 pm

Surprised not to find this posted already (unless I missed it).

So now the North Carolina legislature is in special session (supposedly called to deal with disaster relief appropriations) and is putting forward several bills to limit the new Democratic governor's power. There have been protests, arrests and threatened lawsuits.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions ... story.html

North Carolina Republicans lost. So they’re trying to change the rules.

NORTH CAROLINA is the country’s 28th largest state, its ninth most-populous and 40th richest. But in one category it may yet place first, if legislators get their way: most anti-democratic. Republican lawmakers in Raleigh are holding a special session they frantically called after a Democrat was elected governor. Their logic appears to be that, if Republicans cannot win, they will change the rules.

By now, this is familiar behavior from among the most irresponsible state governments in the nation. Once the state GOP took control of the legislature, lawmakers crammed through a breathtakingly partisan redistricting map — to help both themselves and Republican congressional candidates. North Carolina is a purplish state, but the GOP controls 10 of its 13 congressional districts. The legislature also passed perhaps the most cynical anti-voting law in the country, which included not just unneeded voter ID requirements, but also an end to same-day registration and out-of-precinct voting and a sharp reduction in early voting. A federal court panel found that the law illegally targeted African Americans “with almost surgical precision.”

The GOP’s efforts may have resulted in a skewed legislative map, but they could not save Gov. Pat McCrory (R) from losing his reelection bid last month, in part due to voter backlash against another of the General Assembly’s bad ideas, North Carolina’s infamous “bathroom bill.” Now, with state Attorney General Roy Cooper (D) about to become governor, the legislature, which will stay securely in GOP hands, is rushing through consideration of a variety of measures that would hobble gubernatorial power.

Lawmakers have proposed requiring various gubernatorial appointments to be confirmed by the Senate, a big break with current practice; reducing the governor’s control of election boards; and curbing the governor’s ability to select people for state education panels. Republicans also lost their majority on the state Supreme Court, so they are proposing a larger role for the GOP-controlled state appeals court.


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Post by Suranis » Fri Dec 16, 2016 12:42 pm

Slate has more

http://www.slate.com/blogs/outward/2016 ... cracy.html
That session did, indeed, result in a disaster relief bill. However, as it drew to a close on Wednesday, Republican leaders called another special session—with the explicit aim of curbing the authority of both Cooper and the court. They promptly put forth a series of dramatic alterations to the government’s structure, including proposals to:

Overhaul county election boards to prevent Democratic control. Current law states that each county election board must be made up of three members, two of which should come from the governor’s party. The new proposal would give each election board four members—two Democrats and two Republicans—to prevent Democrats from taking control of the boards.

Overhaul the State Board of Elections by merging it with the State Ethics Commission and increasing its size. Right now, the law states that the election board must have five members, with three from the governor’s party. The new law would give it eight members—four Democrats and four Republicans—to forestall a Democratic advantage when Cooper takes office.

Allow a Democrat to chair the State Board of Elections in odd-numbered years—when there are typically no elections—and allow a Republican to chair the board in even-numbered years—when state and federal elections are normally held.

Make Supreme Court elections partisan and introduce party primaries. Republicans believe they lost the 2016 Supreme Court election because the candidates lacked a partisan identification.

Completely change the appeals process in order to limit the state Supreme Court’s authority. When Republicans took power, they provided citizens with the right to appeal constitutional challenges from superior court directly to the state Supreme Court. The new measure would remove this right, requiring constitutional challenges to be heard by all 15 judges of the court of appeals—which is dominated by Republicans—before reaching the state Supreme Court.

Allow McCrory to pick the Industrial Commission chairman, who will serve for the next four years. Under current law, Cooper should have the opportunity to fill this position.

Reduce the number of state employees who serve at the pleasure of the governor. When McCrory took office, Republicans increased this number from 500 to 1,500. They now propose reducing it to 300.

Remove Cooper’s ability to appoint trustees to run campuses in the University of North Carolina system—and transfer that power to the state legislature.

Require Senate confirmation of Cooper’s Cabinet appointments. McCrory’s appointments did not require Senate approval.

Confirm McCrory’s closest ally, state budget director Andrew Heath, to a superior court judgeship.

Abolish car-emissions testing in many counties; eliminate some state environmental reports; and remove scientists from certain state boards tasked with protecting public health, replacing them with industry representatives.

These proposals are not merely designed to negate the will of the voters in this election. They are also intended to maintain Republican-sponsored voter suppression, thereby preventing Democrats from ever regaining control of the North Carolina government. North Carolina Republicans have long strived to prevent black citizens from voting; after the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act in 2013, they requested data on voting preferences by race, then passed an omnibus voter suppression act that, as one federal appeals court put it, seemed to “target African Americans with almost surgical precision.”

They have also been attempting to block people watching this, to the extent of ejecting the public from the chamber

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... ested.html


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Post by Foggy » Fri Dec 16, 2016 1:13 pm

Least democratic state in the nation, that's us. :madguy:


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Post by John Thomas8 » Sat Dec 17, 2016 2:27 am

There's questions about if the second "emergency" sessions is legal. Since they weren't addressing an actual emergency they're required by law (NC General Statutes Article 33C), to give 7 days notice prior to the session being held. Which they abjectly failed to do.



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Post by Plutodog » Sat Dec 17, 2016 3:31 am

We need a bunch of Californians to emigrate to NC.


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Post by Gregg » Sat Dec 17, 2016 5:03 am

Despite continued questions that should be answered regarding the voting process,
Lemme see, by that he means all the colored folk who still voted in spite of the laws they passed to make that hard to do....right?


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Post by RTH10260 » Tue Dec 20, 2016 2:56 pm

North Carolina’s outgoing GOP governor just stuck it to his Democratic successor
By Amber Phillips December 19 at 7:42 PM
Well, that's one way to stick it to the guy who beat you.

Gov. Pat McCrory (R), who describes portions of the recently passed legislation that significantly curbs the power of his successor, Democratic Gov.-elect Roy Cooper, as “wrong and shortsighted,” signed it Monday anyway. Here’s what McCrory said in a statement:

In other words: I don't agree with this, but I’ll sign it anyway. It’s your problem now.

After staying quiet for days about what he’d do, McCrory is signing a bill that even a former Republican North Carolina governor said had elements that went “too far.” It will, for the first time in decades, require Cooper to get approval by the state Senate for his Cabinet appointees and end his ability to appoint members to the board of trustees of the powerful University of North Carolina system. The measure would also drastically reduce the number of state employees the governor can directly hire and fire, from 1,500 to 425.

McCrory’s announcement that he would sign the legislation came just hours after a development in another North Carolina drama: the “bathroom bill.” Specifically, a move to repeal the controversial legislation that McCrory staked his job on (and that arguably cost him his job). McCrory conceded defeat earlier this month to Cooper, the first North Carolina governor in history to lose reelection.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the ... successor/



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Post by Dan1100 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:11 pm

They should have a reality show, "TROs of the Rich and Famous"

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/pos ... ors-power/
Court blocks North Carolina law aimed at curbing Democratic governor’s power

A North Carolina court just handed the state’s new Democratic governor a symbolic win in his ongoing power struggle with the Republican state legislature.

A three-judge panel Wednesday paused a controversial law limiting Gov. Roy Cooper’s powers to, among other things, appoint his cabinet without legislative consent.

The court is scheduled to have another hearing Friday to decide whether the law should be paused until March, when it will hear full arguments about whether the law limiting the governor’s power is constitutional.

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In the small window after Cooper was inaugurated this January and before the legislature came into session, he appointed most of his cabinet secretaries. The legislature is refusing to recognize the secretaries as heads of their departments, and on Wednesday, Republicans defiantly had a committee hearing to vet Cooper’s pick to lead the veteran affairs department.


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Post by Dan1100 » Wed Feb 08, 2017 5:20 pm

Local story on silliness that ensued after the TRO,

http://wfae.org/post/nc-senate-defies-c ... on-hearing
NC Senate Defies Court Order; Tries To Hold Confirmation Hearing

On Wednesday, the Republican leaders of the North Carolina Senate defied a court order and attempted to hold a confirmation hearing for one of Governor Roy Cooper’s cabinet appointees.

The attempt failed. And WFAE’s Tom Bullock joins Lisa Worf with details.

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LW: And yet the confirmation hearing was still gaveled into session at 11 a.m.

TB: That’s right – in clear defiance of the court order. But Larry Hall [the "nominee"] did not show up. So what happened was an awkward bit of grandstanding.


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Post by Foggy » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:30 pm

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Post by Sterngard Friegen » Fri Jan 26, 2018 7:39 pm

What will the loony N.C. legislature do next> Abolish the office of Governor? Or delegate to itself the right to appoint future governors?



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