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Putin's Party?
Donald J. Trump is the presidential nominee of the Republican party. But that does not absolve every Republican office holder, donor, and activist from the responsibility of satisfying himself that it is right to support that nominee for president. There are, in my judgment, many reasons to doubt this is the case. But one reason in particular hasn't received sufficient consideration: The fact that Trump and his top campaign aide have many troubling connections with Vladimir Putin's regime.

Honest and patriotic Republicans who support Trump, or are tempted to do so, should review some of the publicly available evidence. Trump's business seems to be heavily dependent on Russian investment. His top campaign advisor, Paul Manafort, was the advisor to the Putin-backed stooge Viktor Yanukovich, and has deep ties to the Putin apparat. One of Trump's national security advisors, retired Lt. General Michael Flynn, was paid to give a speech at a Russian propaganda celebration and was seated next to Putin. Trump's Russia advisor Carter Page, who does much of his business with Russian companies, has argued, among other things, that "a few officials in Washington" annexed Ukraine and that the "so-called annexation" of Crimea by Russia was a rational response to this injustice.

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Paul Manafort, Donald Trump’s top adviser, and his ties to pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine
adviser hired by Donald Trump to add stability and institutional know-how to Trump’s often scattershot presidential campaign, has long and deep reported ties to pro-Russian politicians in Ukraine.

PolitiFact, as part of an exchange of journalists sponsored by the U.S. State Department, is hosting two foreign political journalists, including a reporter from Ukraine. We asked that reporter to analyze Manafort’s connections to Ukraine and its political leadership. What follows is her report.

http://www.politifact.com/global-news/a ... nd-his-ti/


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There wasn't anything earth-shattering in the emails.

But Donna Brazille, who has stepped in for Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, was on Anderson-Cooper not too long ago. I didn't watch it but I just saw this tweet:

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Interim DNC chair, Donna Brazile: "I want to learn what is behind all of this, because more emails are coming." cnn.it/2alGjQF
The link goes here:
http://www.snappytv.com/tc/2437365


I didn't watch it.

But it doesn't sound good.

But then somebody tweeted at an unruly vegetable (or fruit, depending on your beliefs):
Paul D @Paulmd199

@HGTomato I think she's wrong. They seem to be getting this from a JUNE 12 interview that said more would be out. Ie this batch is it.

I certainly hope that's the case.

But wikileaks has been tweeting that the next dump will guarantee Hillary is indicted. (as another tweep said: right after the whitey tape is released.)


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Mystery man: Ukraine's U.S. fixer
By Alexander Burns and Maggie Haberman 03/05/14

His friends once called him the Count of Monte Cristo.

Today, Paul Manafort is more like The Invisible Man — a worldly political pro whose latest adventure, whispering in the ear of Ukrainian presidential candidate Viktor Yanukovych, has handed him a supporting role in a bona fide international crisis.

Over three decades in Washington, Manafort built a storied career as a Beltway man of mystery: a famously discreet operative who worked for Ronald Reagan and George H. W. Bush, steered the 1996 GOP convention and built not one but two white-shoe D.C. lobbying shops, a pair of firms that bore Manafort’s name and catered to an eclectic stable of clients including anti-communist Angolan rebels and Ferdinand Marcos, the dictator of the Philippines.

Then, Manafort all but vanished from the Washington scene

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/p ... z4FNWI1H9Z


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ACK! I just posted the Atlantic & Mediaite articles on the Trump thread. Can one of you lovely mods or admins or Richard Taters please move it here? :flirty: :prettyplease: :lovestruck:


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Trump’s New Russia Adviser Has Deep Ties to Kremlin’s Gazprom
A globe-trotting American investment banker who's built a career on deals with Russia and its state-run gas company, Carter Page says his business has suffered directly from the U.S. economic sanctions imposed after Russia's escalating involvement in the Ukraine. When Donald Trump named him last week as one of his foreign-policy advisers, Page says his e-mail inbox filled up with positive notes from Russian contacts. “So many people who I know and have worked with have been so adversely affected by the sanctions policy,” Page said in a two-hour interview last week. “There's a lot of excitement in terms of the possibilities for creating a better situation.”

Over the course of his campaign, Trump has been a contrarian on Russia, floating the idea of reducing the American commitment to NATO and calling Russian President Vladimir Putin a “strong leader.” “I think I would have a very good relationship with Putin,” he said last year. So it makes sense that Trump tapped Page for his foreign-policy team. In writings posted online, Page is a reliable defender of Russian intentions, and portrays U.S. policymakers as stuck in an outdated Cold War mindset.

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Manafort...steered the 1996 GOP convention
Huh. The 1996 RNC was the one where I was shocked and "apauled" at Dole saying "it's really good to be talking to Real Americans for a change". In my mind, this marked the departure from civility/reality for the Thug party. That was Manafort's doing?


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more about that wikileaks dump. paulmd said he thought this was the big document dump. That Donna Brazile thought there is another coming, but that this is prolly the one that was referred to.


He tweeted:
Paul D @Paulmd199

@HGTomato I think she's wrong. They seem to be getting this from a JUNE 12 interview that said more would be out. Ie this batch is it.

and then...
Paul D @Paulmd199

@HGTomato Here's the interview. http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-06- ... s-to-come/
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I have never been a fan of wikileaks.

And they included SSN's and credit card information with yesterday's document dump. On purpose.
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.@wikileaks says they left the credit card and social security numbers of people in that document dump on purpose:



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mimi wrote:There wasn't anything earth-shattering in the emails.

But Donna Brazille, who has stepped in for Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, was on Anderson-Cooper not too long ago. I didn't watch it but I just saw this tweet:
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Interim DNC chair, Donna Brazile: "I want to learn what is behind all of this, because more emails are coming." cnn.it/2alGjQF
The link goes here:
http://www.snappytv.com/tc/2437365

I didn't watch it.

But it doesn't sound good.

But then somebody tweeted at an unruly vegetable (or fruit, depending on your beliefs):
Paul D @Paulmd199

@HGTomato I think she's wrong. They seem to be getting this from a JUNE 12 interview that said more would be out. Ie this batch is it.
I certainly hope that's the case.

But wikileaks has been tweeting that the next dump will guarantee Hillary is indicted. (as another tweep said: right after the whitey tape is released.)
IMO - the release focused heavily on emails about Bernie & intra-party bickering coinciding with the convention to cause a disruption.

This is standard spycraft; drop, drip, drip... I agree the content so far was ''meh' but it pissed off the Berners as intended & fired up concern troll Trumpkins. There will be further releases that will escalate tensions from now until the election.

Also worth noting the metadata on some showed the content had been edited by the Russian hacker(s). It will be hard to know at first sight what is manipulated & what is not.

Trumpkins ain't gonna wait for facts before they start spinning. Look at what they tried to do with the email thread about Trump's taco bowl. They are saying that Dems were calling Hispanics "taco bowls" when they were clearly referring to Trump's use of the taco bowl. :brickwallsmall:


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Now there is a list of a few of the most shocking emails released by Wikileaks.
The list was compiled thanks to the work of Reddit Bernie Sander supporters and Donald Trump supporters:
Hat Tip Steve A.
Edit: Note links don't work for me. Anybody?
► Show Spoiler
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07 ... ment-dump/


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It was amusing seeing Julian deleting his anti-semitic tweets about the (((hug))) thing. fucking quiseled toadie.


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Plutodog wrote:
Now there is a list of a few of the most shocking emails released by Wikileaks.
The list was compiled thanks to the work of Reddit Bernie Sander supporters and Donald Trump supporters:
Hat Tip Steve A.
Edit: Note links don't work for me. Anybody?
► Show Spoiler
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07 ... ment-dump/
They are all nothingburgers. Standard campaign oppo, vetting, coordinating & media strategy. Idiots are taking things way out of context. Ex: "pulling MSNBC segment" = getting a copy of it not having it removed.

The worst was the email about Bernie Jewish/Atheist but they never actually did anything.


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Karen, thanks for being on top of this Trump/Russian connection stuff. There's a lot of information in the mainstream media about his business dealings with thugs from Russia and Kazakhstan. I don't think this is a conspiracy theory, it's an issue with many questions and few answers. And I find it very disconcerting.


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GOP advisor, anti-trumpp edition, says the Emails are a big bunch of nothing. Read bottom to top.

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Wasserman Schultz has no political sense. Her appearance before the Florida delegation was a disaster.


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Ah yes ... I remember well in the 90s that Slick Hilly complained about the "vast right-wing conspiracy" that was out to get her and her husband ... back to her tried and true (or in this case "tired and true") deflective whining ... "It's not *my* fault - it's all Debbie's fault" ...


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JULY 24, 2016
As Democrats Gather, a Russian Subplot Raises Intrigue

An unusual question is capturing the attention of cyberspecialists, Russia experts and Democratic Party leaders in Philadelphia: Is Vladimir V. Putin trying to meddle in the American presidential election?

Until Friday, that charge, with its eerie suggestion of a Kremlin conspiracy to aid Donald J. Trump, has been only whispered.

But the release on Friday of some 20,000 stolen emails from the Democratic National Committee’s computer servers, many of them embarrassing to Democratic leaders, has intensified discussion of the role of Russian intelligence agencies in disrupting the 2016 campaign.

The emails, released first by a supposed hacker and later by WikiLeaks, exposed the degree to which the Democratic apparatus favored Hillary Clinton over her primary rival, Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, and triggered the resignation of Debbie Wasserman Schultz, the party chairwoman, on the eve of the convention’s first day.

Proving the source of a cyberattack is notoriously difficult. But researchers have concluded that the national committee was breached by two Russian intelligence agencies, which were the same attackers behind previous Russian cyberoperations at the White House, the State Department and the Joint Chiefs of Staff last year. And metadata from the released emails suggests that the documents passed through Russian computers. Though a hacker claimed responsibility for giving the emails to WikiLeaks, the same agencies are the prime suspects. Whether the thefts were ordered by Mr. Putin, or just carried out by apparatchiks who thought they might please him, is anyone’s guess.

On Sunday morning, the issue erupted, as Mrs. Clinton’s campaign manager, Robby Mook, argued on ABC’s “This Week” that the emails were leaked “by the Russians for the purpose of helping Donald Trump” citing “experts” but offering no other evidence. Mr. Mook also suggested that the Russians might have good reason to support Mr. Trump: The Republican nominee indicated in an interview with The New York Times last week that he might not back NATO nations if they came under attack from Russia — unless he was first convinced that the countries had made sufficient contributions to the Atlantic alliance.

It was a remarkable moment: Even at the height of the Cold War, it was hard to find a presidential campaign willing to charge that its rival was essentially secretly doing the bidding of a key American adversary. But the accusation is emerging as a theme of Mrs. Clinton’s campaign, as part of an attempt to portray Mr. Trump not only as an isolationist, but also as one who would go soft on confronting Russia as it threatens nations that have shown too much independence from Moscow or, in the case of Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia, joined NATO. <SNIP>
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/25/us/po ... c=trending

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rifleman1635 wrote:Ah yes ... I remember well in the 90s that Slick Hilly complained about the "vast right-wing conspiracy" that was out to get her and her husband ... back to her tried and true (or in this case "tired and true") deflective whining ... "It's not *my* fault - it's all Debbie's fault" ...
Yeah, unless you read the actual words in her statement, which said no such thing. We're not big on fantasy here.

It would be fun to see you try to show that the day-to-day operations of the DNC, particularly the thousands of emails amongst the staff, were really all Hillary Clinton's fault. :lol:

When it comes to Hillary, it seems you're quite good at invective and vitriol, not so much at facts and factual analysis.


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The evidence that points to Russia.

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/all-si ... e-dnc-hack


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rifleman1635 wrote:Ah yes ... I remember well in the 90s that Slick Hilly complained about the "vast right-wing conspiracy" that was out to get her and her husband ... back to her tried and true (or in this case "tired and true") deflective whining ... "It's not *my* fault - it's all Debbie's fault" ...

Considering all the crap they threw at her, none of which stuck except in the minds of the critical thought-challenged, I'd say she was right.


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Foggy wrote:
rifleman1635 wrote:Ah yes ... I remember well in the 90s that Slick Hilly complained about the "vast right-wing conspiracy" that was out to get her and her husband ... back to her tried and true (or in this case "tired and true") deflective whining ... "It's not *my* fault - it's all Debbie's fault" ...
Yeah, unless you read the actual words in her statement, which said no such thing. We're not big on fantasy here.

It would be fun to see you try to show that the day-to-day operations of the DNC, particularly the thousands of emails amongst the staff, were really all Hillary Clinton's fault. :lol:
Also, too, that is, we've long discussed DWS here and her incompetent stewardship of the DNC. Do you believe that DWS did a good job? Do you believe that Hillary hasn't been the subject of multiple witch hunts for decades? Can you give evidence of DWS's competence or an indictment stemming from the millions spent on investigating President and Secretary Clinton? Or are you just repeating another right wing big lie in their endless campaign to smear their opponents and create a false equivalence to cover up their very real sins. (Watergate, Iran-Contra, the Iraq war, torture, Putin influencing US elections, etc.) The only real offense you seem to have against Hillary is that she isn't a Republican (as you are perfectly willing to ignore far worse offenses committed and endless fruitless investigations instigated by Republicans).

By the way, if you had an argument that had any merit at all, you wouldn't need to use epithets like "Slick Hilly", you could let the facts speak for themselves (like the Trump-Putin connection or any other Republican scandal). Unfortunately that doesn't help with the type of Fox News talking points you are repeating.


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Plutodog wrote:
Now there is a list of a few of the most shocking emails released by Wikileaks.
The list was compiled thanks to the work of Reddit Bernie Sander supporters and Donald Trump supporters:
Hat Tip Steve A.
Edit: Note links don't work for me. Anybody?
DNC member killing horses for insurance money.
https://wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/emailid/578
:snippity:
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016/07 ... ment-dump/
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Slim Cognito wrote:
rifleman1635 wrote:Ah yes ... I remember well in the 90s that Slick Hilly complained about the "vast right-wing conspiracy" that was out to get her and her husband ... back to her tried and true (or in this case "tired and true") deflective whining ... "It's not *my* fault - it's all Debbie's fault" ...

Considering all the crap they threw at her, none of which stuck except in the minds of the critical thought-challenged, I'd say she was right.
No doubt she was right.

Richard Mellon Scaife was a leader in such.


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Slim Cognito wrote:
rifleman1635 wrote:Ah yes ... I remember well in the 90s that Slick Hilly complained about the "vast right-wing conspiracy" that was out to get her and her husband ... back to her tried and true (or in this case "tired and true") deflective whining ... "It's not *my* fault - it's all Debbie's fault" ...

Considering all the crap they threw at her, none of which stuck except in the minds of the critical thought-challenged, I'd say she was right.
Just in case you missed the ensuing 26 years, she was right. You can hate on her all you want, but don't be stupid about it. Trump is the micromanager, not her.

Slick Hilly is just offensive. :fingerwag:


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