Carl Gallups' "BIG 'PLAN A'" "Gallups Has Cheapened The Integrity Of The Investigation" Starring Birthers Arpaio & Zullo

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P&E: Mike Zullo: “American Report” Latest Claims “Completely Fabricated”:
“WHO IS PAYING MARY FANNING?”
The same source "paying" Zullo, Rondeau, etc.: their egos and need for attention. Continuing:
Former Obama birth-certificate investigator Mike Zullo told The Post & Email Wednesday that a January 19 article at The American Report makes “fabricated” claims invoking his name.

The article, written by Mary Fanning and Alan Jones, attempts to connect former CIA Director James Woolsey, who served during the Clinton administration, to Obama-era officials James Comey, James Clapper and John Brennan as allegedly having “worked in concert to frame President Donald Trump and President Trump’s National Security Advisor Lt. General Michael Flynn as ‘Russian agents.’”
Rondeau's too petty to link to Fanning and Jones' article, but, "for completeness": Am. Rept.: Woolsey, Brennan, Clapper, And Comey Framed Trump And Flynn In Russian Collusion Hoax, Fearing Exposure Of THE HAMMER.

Here's is the entirety of that article's discussion of Zullo:
Am. Rept. wrote:Mike Zullo secretly recorded Dennis Montgomery, Montgomery says. Those audio recordings were never supposed to be made public, Zullo admits.

Those recordings later became known as “The Whistleblower Tapes,” audio recordings that first revealed THE HAMMER.

Zullo told these reporters late in the evening of December 15. 2016 that he was in contact with Woolsey.
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Continuing with Rondeau:
As The Post & Email has reported over the last seven months, Fanning, Jones, radio host Dave Janda and others have attempted to paint [Dennis] Montgomery as a credible witness to alleged widespread government surveillance to include Donald Trump, members of his family, prominent businessmen, media personalities, and more than 150 federal judges through a super-computer named “The Hammer.”
Which is exactly what Rondeau, Zullo, and Gallups attempted to do for years. :think:

After yet another Montgomery recap (that I snipped):
A voluminous and meandering article which invokes the names of former 2016 Trump campaign adviser George Papadopoulos, Russia “dossier” compiler Christopher Steele, and deceased Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, authors Fanning and Jones claim, without presenting any evidence, that “Zullo was in contact with former CIA Director Woolsey.”

That and a second claim, that Zullo spoke with Fanning and Jones on December 15, 2016, is “completely fabricated,” Zullo told The Post & Email on Wednesday.

“I don’t even know who Woolsey is,” was Zullo’s initial reaction after we contacted him about Fanning and Jones’s latest allegations. He immediately said recalled that December 15, 2016 was the date of the third and final press conference concerning the birth-certificate investigation he conducted over more than five years which found the image posted at whitehouse.gov said to represent Barack Obama’s “long-form” birth certificate to be a “computer-generated forgery.”
Wow! Zullo denies knowing the former CIA director! Thus confirming Zullo's a big nobody. (And, yes, the P&E article contains that strikethrough. Who edits this rag?)
Fanning and Jones wrote that Zullo “told these reporters late in the evening of December 15. 2016 that he was in contact with Woolsey.” In response, Zullo said, “I remember exactly what I was doing that night; it’s etched in my brain. I didn’t speak to any reporters that night. As a matter of fact, I don’t believe that either Fanning or Jones even reported on the December 15th conference.​ I’ve had no contact with her since March 2015, and I am now challenging her and Jones to bring forth the evidence to support their claim quickly. Of all the dates she could have picked to say I talked to her, why did she pick that date? There are 30+ witnesses to my whereabouts that day from 7:00 a.m. until midnight. At no time did I have a conversation with her about Woolsey.”

Following the presser, Zullo recalled, a number of those who attended later gathered at his home, including former Lt. Col. Terry Lakin, who challenged Obama’s eligibility based on his missing birth certificate and other open questions; then-Maricopa County Sheriff Joseph Arpaio; and specific private citizens, including Carl Gallups, who Zullo named.

Fanning and Jones further claimed that Zullo “admitted” that “The Whistleblower Tapes,” as Fanning and Jones have dubbed recordings Zullo made of Montgomery and Montgomery’s acquaintance, Tim Blixseth, about alleged government surveillance, “were never supposed to be made public.” To that, Zullo said, “We didn’t know if there was any privileged information in what Montgomery was telling us. Taking that out of context and trying to hold that as an admission of some type of guilt is outrageous. The ACLU released them, not a federal judge or the Sheriff’s office or me. They were never intended for public consumption, just like the information obtained during that investigation. As for Montgomery’s claim of being ‘secretly recorded,’ we’ve already provided evidence that Montgomery knew he was being recorded and that he was open to me doing it at will; we didn’t have to keep asking his permission. There’s more that hasn’t been released. Fanning is wordsmithing this to give the appearance that because the recordings weren’t to be released, there’s some nefarious purpose behind them. To be honest with you, none of the Montgomery investigation was supposed to become public; it was the ACLU that leaked the tapes without permission of a federal judge.”
Zullo can't let go of his "the ACLU leaked it" lie.
]This is clear and convincing evidence that Fanning and Jones try to propagate guilt with supposed association with no fact,” Zullo continued. “It is also clear and convincing evidence that they lie. This is a baldfaced lie propagated with a malicious intent. That’s what has been discovered in their ‘reporting’ over the years. It’s not reporting; it’s outright fiction. I am the guy who went after the​ Obama birth certificate; do you really think I’m a Deep-State player? The only CIA contact I suspect I had was with the one who threatened my family and me.”
Oh, the irony.
“The article is such a woven tapestry of nonsense that it can’t even be logically followed,” Zullo further observed. “Here’s a really big question: Who is paying Mary Fanning?” Why is Fanning lying? Why is Fanning disregarding a plethora of problematic information in the background of Montgomery? Why is Fanning the newly-minted PR person for Dennis Montgomery? Why does Fanning hail Montgomery as a victim and whistleblower and a standup guy when law enforcement and his own legal history say otherwise? What is in this for Mary Fanning?

“I can’t believe people actually read the garbage she writes. But today she got her foot caught in her own trap. She lied!”
Zullo's utter irony deficiency is somehow charming.
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I forgets, according to Rhon doo doo, is Montgomery a credible or non-credible source this week?
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Notorial Dissent wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:58 pm
I forgets, according to Rhon doo doo, is Montgomery a credible or non-credible source this week?
Not really a question of when but rather of what: Montgomery is credible when supporting Zullo and Rondeau's conspiracy theories, but incredible when supporting other people's conspiracy theories.
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bob wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 1:06 pm
Notorial Dissent wrote:
Thu Jan 23, 2020 12:58 pm
I forgets, according to Rhon doo doo, is Montgomery a credible or non-credible source this week?
Not really a question of when but rather of what: Montgomery is credible when supporting Zullo and Rondeau's conspiracy theories, but incredible when supporting other people's conspiracy theories.
Ah, so the usual hypocrisy. Just checkin'.
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TL;DR: THE BOYS BROKE UP! :crying: :crying: :crying:


P&E: Missing from Obama Birth-Certificate Chapter: “Mike Zullo”:
THE SNUB HEARD ACROSS THE COUNTRY
Executive summary: Gallups, in a chapter for an upcoming book, wrote Zullo out of the birther narrative:
In a departure from our normal practice of withholding commentary, The Post & Email is compelled to report that what has been repackaged in a chapter of Dr. Thomas Horn’s “Shadowland” as “shocking” and revelatory is recycled information gleaned from the hard, unpaid work and sacrifice of another.

As promised last fall, The Post & Email recently purchased the book, now available on Kindle, and read the chapter authored and heavily promoted by Carl Gallups in recent broadcasts. Contrary to Gallups’s numerous portrayals on his podcasts and on Horn’s “SkywatchTV” of the chapter’s “shocking” information, as someone who has closely followed the Obama birth-certificate investigation conducted by Mike Zullo, this writer found no new information nor anything reaching the level of “shocking.”
:swoon: Rondeau is biting the hand that feeds her! :popcorn:
In a strange coincidence, The Post & Email has reviewed Zullo’s certificate for his receiving and completion of law-enforcement training in “Occult and Satanic Crime Investigation.” A topic of occult-inspired criminal activity is a focus in Horn’s new book. Zullo, however, was not consulted.

Gallups’s chapter, which capitalizes on the 5+-year criminal investigation conducted by Zullo on a voluntary basis, most notably contains a glaring omission: the name “Mike Zullo.” As the only source of information on the investigation into the “birth certificate” image commissioned by then-Sheriff Joseph Arpaio, Zullo’s name is “shockingly” nowhere to be found.

Gallups cites Zullo’s work in the February 13 edition of Horn’s SKYWATCH TV, but not once in the chapter. This writer observes that by omitting any mention of Zullo yet claiming to possess “new forensic information” apart from Zullo, Gallups appears to have invented a new role for himself which Horn is actively promulgating.

Readers can decide for themselves the motives driving these actions.
:mememe:
In a highly-revelatory interview late last week, Zullo told The Post & Email that contention between Gallups and him arose over the chapter and related incidents, and in a punitive act, Gallups systematically removed all references to him in a re-edited version of the chapter.

On his January 24, 2020 “Freedom Friday” broadcast, Gallups portrayed the final product as very similar to a draft Zullo reviewed late last year. However, Zullo told The Post & Email that at the time, his name was invoked frequently throughout the draft.
I noticed that Gallups was plugging a birther chapter in some nutjob's book, but Zullo has been conspicuously absent from Gallups' show. I may have to listen to this old episode.
The Post & Email noted that Gallups omitted Zullo’s name even from documents written by others, namely an August 3, 2016 statement by document examiner Reed Hayes, who Zullo commissioned to examine the birth-certificate image. Where Zullo’s name appears in the statement quoted from Hayes’s website, Gallups noticeably placed an ellipsis.
At Location 1768 in the Kindle version, Gallups included the following from Hayes’s statement:
In the past I have been approached numerous times to review the birth-certificate issue. I always refused, given my political leanings and the resulting potential for reaching biased opinions about the matter. I finally agreed when…the Maricopa County Arizona Sheriff’s Office Cold Case Posse contacted me in November 2012, reminding myself that as a handwriting and document examiner my duty is to allow whatever documentation I’m examining to speak for itself and that I am not an advocate for either side or any party.… I have made a concerted effort to lay personal bias aside and work toward the most objective opinions regarding the Obama birth-certificate matter.…
Hayes’s statement on his website reads:
In the past I have been approached numerous times to review the birth certificate issue. I always refused, given my political leanings and the resulting potential for reaching biased opinions about the matter. I finally agreed when Michael Zullo of the Maricopa County Arizona Sheriff’s Office Cold Case Posse contacted me in November 2012, reminding myself that as a handwriting and document examiner my duty is to allow whatever documentation I’m examining to speak for itself and that I am not an advocate for either side or any party. It might be likened to an attorney who defends a murder suspect but who does not condone murder. As with any case that I work, I have made a concerted effort to lay personal bias aside and work toward the most objective opinions regarding the Obama birth certificate matter.
At Location 1777, the Gallups chapter reads:
As stated in my report…the COLB [Certificate of Live Birth] that I examined has so many blatant oddities that it makes me wonder if this particular PDF may have been created in an effort to impeach President Obama.
The same place in Hayes’s report reads:
As stated in my report to Mr. Zullo, the COLB that I examined has so many blatant oddities that it makes me wonder if this particular PDF may have been created in an effort to impeach President Obama.
Actual investigation by Rondeau or spoon-fed to her by Zullo?
Zullo wrote:It took a lot of work to accomplish this task, and I find the intentionality to be very disturbing, not from the standpoint of being cut from the chapter, but from the position of Gallups’s state of mind to act with such deliberate contempt,” Zullo said. “It kind-of conjures images of the guy who cuts out letters from magazines and pastes them on paper to mail a threatening letter.

Gallups has blurred lines of reality in his vainglorious pontifications over the years and seems to have woven a persona of being much more deeply involved and of importance to the investigation than the truth will bear out[.] The fact is, Gallups never provided anything — any information or expertise — to the investigation, but to hear him speak, one would think he was the third investigator working so very closely on the case. Nothing could be farther from the truth. He was a news outlet of sorts. For the five years I was traveling and living out of suitcases in pursuit of the truth, Gallups was home turning out book after book at a rate faster than waffles coming off the grill at the Waffle House. There are so many aspects of this investigation that he simply does not know.

The only reason he can even speak to this on a higher level than most is due to his proximity to me, and the positioning of him as an unofficial spokesman was done for a reason. Without me, he would have nothing to talk about. However, over the years it was becoming apparent that Gallups has developed an ill-conceived sense of ownership of the Birth Certificate issue and a misguided sense of entitlement to the investigation. He credits much of this to being made aware of the topic in approximately 2007 when a listener called in to a radio show and brought it to his attention. Gallups claims he has been investigating the topic ever since. He has made statements on his radio show referring to this and claiming he was involved and investigating all of this before Arpaio and I ‘got involved.’ The fact is Gallups got involved with us; we did not get involved with him[.]

Gallups never supplied the investigation with any investigational work product. I guess if sitting at your desk using the internet to see what work others have done and talking about it for years on the radio is investigating; well, I must have missed that part in my academy training.

In fact, when confronted with his investigational claims, he has now rebranded himself from opening his own investigation to writing and investigating from a journalistic perspective. He has recently made claims and morphed himself into a newly-minted investigative journalist. I have never heard him say that in the seven years I have known him, but he is today. After much pushback Gallups has most recently made strides to clarify he was not the investigator, to his credit, but it is CYA.
:swoon: :swoon: :swoon:
After reading the chapter, this writer contacted Gallups and Horn multiple times to ask why Zullo’s name was omitted but received no response, a surprising development given that Gallups and this writer had long enjoyed a collegiate relationship based on our mutual interest in the birth-certificate investigation.

In a surprising development, Zullo told us last week that as a result of the chapter and the circumstances surrounding it, he is no longer providing information to Gallups and that he actually “throttled back” giving him information in mid-2017. “Unfortunately, I saw all this coming to the surface in late 2016,” Zullo said.

“As a result of Gallups’s recent behavior and breach of confidentiality, neither I nor Sheriff Arpaio will be providing any further information to Gallups,” Zullo said. “Gallups’s information​ channel was completely shut down as of October 2019.”
:violin:
Zullo additionally presented this writer with documentation validating his position that a breach of confidence and trust of a six-year agreement between the two had taken place in the writing and publishing of the chapter.

That finding also stemmed from Gallups’s reading of a partial text message between Zullo and Gallups on his January 24 radio show. “Gallups used my name and comments out of context to give the illusion that I was ‘thrilled’ with the chapter and ‘the power of it,’” Zullo said. “Keep in mind this was a chapter that was re-edited. I had no idea what was in it; all I knew was what he told me and that he was removing all reference to me and my name as well. And this after assurances from Gallups and Horn that the chapter was not even going to be used. But the reading of the text message along with the absolute misrepresentation of my thoughts on the chapter was a threshold crossed that will not be tolerated and will not go unaddressed.”

​​The Post & Email is in possession of the entire text message and found Zullo’s claim to be substantiated and communicated that claim to Gallups and Horn in our emails.
OK, now I gotta hear this fateful episode of Gallups' show.
Zullo said he was dismayed when he later discovered that prior to the chapter being written for this book, unbeknownst to him, the birth-certificate investigation was being “prostituted” by Gallups and Horn to sell books from other authors of Defender Publishing (Horn’s company), including Gallups’s prior works. “Gallups was more than willing to do recorded interviews about the investigation and his so-called involvement in an effort to tantalize the audience, and in turn these interviews were included as a free promotional (Tom Horn Secret Files) giveaway in an effort to entice book sales on unrelated topics,” Zullo said. “This was something I told Gallups I was firmly against because I absolutely did not want to see the investigation’s integrity diminished. However, Gallups did it anyway.”

Zullo went on to say that the situation predates the writing of the chapter. In early 2019, Zullo said, Gallups reached out to him with an invitation from Tom Horn to appear alongside Gallups on Skywatch TV to discuss the birth-certificate investigation. Gallups explained to Zullo that it was a special promotional taping of a round-table discussion with other authors about “Deep State” activities. He told Zullo that it was a special discussion and was going to be included as a free giveaway with Horn’s upcoming book release. “I refused to take part,” Zullo said.

Zullo said he explained to Gallups that under no circumstances did he want the birth-certificate investigation to be monetized and used as a “free promotional gimmick to sell someone else’s book.” Zullo said he was repulsed by the idea after having invested five years, 15,000 hours of voluntary service, and the personal sacrifice he and his family made to bring this all-important investigation to a close and that he made Gallups well aware of his position.

Zullo said he told Gallups “no” and also cautioned Gallups that Horn would eventually come to him and ask him to write something. According to Zullo, Gallups told him he would just “tell Tom ‘no'” and that he could not write anything. Also, Zullo said, he cautioned Gallups “that once you start giving this kind of stuff to a publisher for free they never stop wanting your free service.” Zullo said he told Gallups that he has “done enough for free” and was just not interested. He also said he told Gallups that he did not think the time was right to bring the investigation up to the surface again. “Gallups told me he would go on the show and talk only about the things we had already discussed on the radio,” Zullo said. “There was nothing I could do about it, so I just let it go.” Zullo said he had no idea what this was going to actually turn into, and he believes Gallups was hoping Zullo wouldn’t find out.
So now Zullo has integrity?
[Soooo many Zullo tears hatted below: Sekrit Stuffs!
Zullo wrote:They even went as far as to include a video of the December 2016 press conference in the offer, which can easily be found on Youtube today. It is not a secret[.] The impression was that this was something new and never revealed before. This stuff has been out there for over four years now. The December press conference had over four million views four years ago, but they are calling it and the forensic findings exclusive and new today. It sickens me to see all my hard work reduced to a promotional ad for Carl Gallups’s book sales.

Sharon, Tom Horn had an opportunity in 2017 to publish a book by Gallups and me which would have revealed the in-depth truth of the entire investigation and everything surrounding it; he chose not to. At least that was what I was told by Gallups. And your readers have to understand we had a six-year confidentiality agreement, one which Gallups actually voiced on his own radio show under his pastoral covering of confidentiality. In addition to that, nothing was to be written and when the time came we would do it together. So some information was shared with him.

Sharon, there was absolutely no misunderstanding. In fact, so prevalent was the secrecy aspect Gallups would unrelentingly taunt his audience about knowing information that he cannot talk about.

Since 2017, I have turned down two book offers and one offer to make a documentary on the investigation. I don’t believe the time is right. So this issue here is not about a book deal. I believe this investigation and its findings may one day have a profound impact on this nation. I believe this to be the foundational lie to the Presidency to the United States, and the largest Mass Fraud in American history[.] I did not work 15,000 voluntary hours ​over five years of my life to have it reduced to this type of bastardization.

The information shared with Carl Gallups and his relationship to me were never intended to be used for this purpose and Gallups knows it. Despite repeated assurances to the contrary in 2017, Gallups began to make overtures about being able to write about his own life story and his part in the birth-certificate saga, but in the next breath he said he would ‘never do that.’ This happened on a number of occasions and aroused my suspicions so much so that I throttled back on the information flow to him.

I had not seen the Carl Gallups sales-pitch interview recordings until months after they were released[.] I was unaware that they were even in existence. I was speechless when I learned of them. They are full of hype, mischaracterizations and outright depictions of events that just did not happen. To say I was angry is an understatement; I am incensed. However, the true motive is now becoming clear. Aside from selling books, they are trying to position themselves using the chapter as a placeholder for something they think is going to happen in the near future. I​ also think Carl has become so self-absorbed in this investigation and so wants his name attached to it that he is losing sight of reality.

Sharon, Carl Gallups is not my peer, he is not my colleague, not my partner in this investigation or the investigation concerning the CIA informant. He has never seen that information. Yet when he speaks he makes it sound as if he was present when the information was turned over to us. He was a radio guy with a media outlet that I needed at the time, being fed some information for release. We had never heard of him until after the second press conference in July 2012. His name did not even surface once in the initial stages of the investigation. And to be candid, I had three radio outlets to choose from at the time. I chose him because of his being a 35-year pastor and his prior involvement in law enforcement. There was a comfort level. And you would think he would be someone who would keep his word and the secret at the same time.

So this is not about the chapter. I never asked him to pull the chapter; it is about a breach of trust and confidence and the selling-out of this five-year investigation that was a sacrifice for the good of the country. Gallups sacrificed nothing. He is using it to enhance his brand. He seeks to bring notoriety to himself and gin up book sales for himself and his publisher. Nothing more, nothing less. As far as the investigation goes he is a non-entity. He was a radio outlet, a confidant under his pastoral covering, and self-described ‘Man of Integrity.” He was treated as a friend. I remember him telling me, ‘Boy, there are going to be so many people wanting to ride your coattails it is going to make you so angry.’ Well, I guess Gallups bought a first-class ticket on the Coattail Express.

To make matters worse the chapter is basically an outline of connecting the dots. In 2018 I asked Carl to see if there was any interest in Horn doing a book in late 2020. Carl told me that Tom Horn was interested in an outline of what a book on the investigation would contain. In my privileged discussions with Gallups I outlined the birth-certificate connections to the Deep State to the coup to overthrow the president, CIA, to all roads leading back to John Brennan, to James Clapper (by the way, the Brennan stuff was cut out of the chapter because th​ere was no way he could get around using my name), and much more. I decided not to provide an outline to Horn without some type of agreement, but Carl now knew what my thoughts were and that I had the information to substantiate it all. What you see in his chapter is in fact my outline. From what I can see Carl’s contribution is some “Hillary started it all,” which he told me about years ago. Some of the media reports and footnote clips I had not seen before. But, that stuff is not relevant to my investigation. I called it what it is in the text message he read on-air.

He uses his relationship to me and his limited access to the Sheriff and his Special Deputy honorary appointment (which means absolutely nothing, but he plays it to the hilt), all to bolster his own credibility. All he can tell you about the investigation is a result of my work product; if I was not whispering in his ear he would know nothing more than the average reader of your publication.
Zullo said that in October, he asked Gallups for “a phone call” to discuss the matter and to date “is still waiting for it.” “It seems the phone confrontation was too much for him to handle,” Zullo said. In our interview, Zullo​ said he wanted to make it clear that Gallups has not released any sensitive information regarding the investigation just yet, although Zullo said Gallups is on “a slippery slope” and that it is a situation that is being “closely monitored.”

Zullo played the pivotal role in the entire investigation. For all intents and purposes, Zullo is the investigation. While Sheriff Arpaio commissioned the investigation and without him there would be no investigation, it was Zullo he trusted and commissioned to bring it to a successful conclusion. The Post & Email has seen Tom Horn’s promotional clips marketing the “Secret Files.” One can plainly see that a clip from the 2016 press conference is used which shows Zullo’s face mildly blurred out, but no mention of his name in print. Zullo is forever attached to the Obama Certificate; his image and name can be found in dozens of articles, photos, videos, and interviews on the web. This begs the question, “How do you leave the most pivotal role and the most pivotal person out of the entire body of work when you are claiming all of it is taken from all public information?”

Just as bewildering is the fact that this writer’s work is footnoted in the chapter where Zullo is the source of the information if not the topic of the article. The burning question is, “How does Carl Gallups, the author, omit Zullo when Zullo appeared on Gallups’s own radio show, dialogued with him for dozens of hours for over five years (this writer reported on them) and claim to be an investigative journalist?

The public simply is not getting an accurate account from the chapter. If they read the chapter they come away with names connected to the birth-certificate investigation, specifically Sheriff Arpaio, Special Deputy Carl Gallups, Reed Hayes and Forlab, but not the name of the man who actually investigated it and solved it. Something is very, very wrong.

This writer also feels compelled to say that over the years, she has been privy to certain information stemming from the investigation, particularly a glimpse into the sacrifices and hardships Mike Zullo and his family have endured as a result of the assignment, which he could have abandoned at any time. We are therefore keenly aware of many of the twists and turns, self-aggrandizing glory-seekers and outright betrayals thrown in Zullo’s path as he worked to complete a near-impossible task.

As expressed to Gallups last week, this writer sincerely hopes that the situation between Zullo and him can be resolved given their nearly-seven-year professional relationship, but is not optimistic based on the lack of response to multiple email inquiries and continued promotions of the birth-certificate chapter.

This is a developing story with more to come.
:popcorn: :popcorn: :popcorn:

(And if you read this far, the stuff is the sekrit section is fabulous.)
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My 3 thoughts:

1. Zullo and Sharon are just now realizing Gallups
focus has always been Gallups? 30 seconds of listening to him showed me what he was.

2. Zullo is monitoring in case Gallups releases sensitive information? Since Civilian Arpaio and Zullo hold no official position, they have no authority over sensitive information being released on a law enforcement "investigation.". I'm sure Zullo remembered a non-disclosure agreement for Gallups.

3. Paging Larry. Paging Mr. Larry Klayman. Granted, he represents Corsi who Zullo kicked to the curb, but that should not be an issue for GIL.
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Oh boy, there is a truckload of Zullo butt hurt in that article! So it took the Great Investigator Mike Zullo 6 years to figure out that Carl Gallups was a huckster, self promoting, lying SOB? We could have told you that years ago Mikey. :fingerwag:
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Ethics, they don't need no stinkin' ethics, in this crowd, not a consideration. Guess the honeymoon is over. Sigh! They were such a loving couple.

Giddyup writing a third hand commentary on something he was barely a part of. Real newsworthy Rharon.

Kind of like a document examiner postulating on a multigeneration copy of a copy.
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Major butthurt in evidence.

You would think that conman, Zullo would have been able to see through conman Gallups. Perhaps Zullo really believes his own bull dung.

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If I have the score correctly:

Gallups is no longer speaking to Arpaio, Zullo, or Rondeau; and never knew Montgomery.

Zullo also is no longer speaking to Klayman or Montgomery.

Montgomery and Klayman broke up ages ago.

Rondeau ignores Montgomery's pleas for attention.

Arpaio is done with Montgomery; Arpaio also is curiously silent about Zullo as of late; Arpaio never knew who Rondeau even was.

Leaving Zullo and Rondeau together; Klayman with his new pal Goodman and erstwhile(?) "client," Arpaio; Arpaio and his love for other people's money and attention; ditto for Gallups.

And Montgomery (yaknow, everybody's source) all alone.
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OMG :lol: Guess the story morphed and God's Hands are Carl's! :lol:

Today is the 2,502nd day since "BIG 'PLAN A'" -- Sat Apr 13, 2013 -- and they've accomplished sooo much. And I thought there was going to be a 7th anniversary party :(

"THE SNUB HEARD ACROSS THE COUNTRY" -- Which country? Did anybody hear a snub? Foggy, did you hear any snubs? Seriously, you need to drop everything and deal with this earthquake in the tiny republic of Birfestan... can they survive this?

No idea who Tom Horn is, the Kindle is on Amazon but no publication date on the paperback. But somebody's buying it -- Zullo should SUE for royalties!



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Bob, thank you, some of the lines are priceless...

"If I was not whispering in his ear he would know nothing more than the average reader of your publication." -- Zullo

“Gallups has blurred lines of reality in his vainglorious pontifications over the years and seems to have woven a persona of being much more deeply involved and of importance to the investigation than the truth will bear out” -- Zullo

“This was something I told Gallups I was firmly against because I absolutely did not want to see the investigation’s integrity diminished. :lol: However, Gallups did it anyway.”

Dang, a birther scorned is big big trouble! :cantlook:

The P&E is circling the Zullo wagon, shun Carl for his treachery!:
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Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 3:32 PM
I always had my suspicions about Gallups. He seemed too loquacious and self-important when discussing the birth certificate issue with Zullo. Nevertheless I trusted Zullo’s judgment that Gallups was a sincere and effective advocate and outlet for the truth. Obviously, Gallups is a flawed individual who should be shunned for his treachery.
It's clear that Zullo needs to file a HUGE LAWSUIT against Carl, maybe even get to a GRAND JURY where Carl is and have him indicted. Gosh, which side does Fogbow take here? Has Orly Taitz weighed in on this MASSIVE BREAKING STORY yet? Maybe she and Zullo can put aside their differences for the good of America, this transcends minor squabbles. Orly's first task: What is the cure provision in the NDA? Or, maybe Zullo should just take the law into his own hands, he's a Deputy, after all.

And Realist, I think this means, after so many long years, we can stop panicking? What a treat. Can't wait for more P&E comments (unless all their little heads have exploded).
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Wait, wait, WAIT!
Zullo told us last week that as a result of the chapter and the circumstances surrounding it, he is no longer providing information to Gallups ...

“As a result of Gallups’s recent behavior and breach of confidentiality, neither I nor Sheriff Arpaio will be providing any further information to Gallups,” Zullo said. 
WAIT.

WHAT FURTHER INFORMATION? ARE ARPIEHOLE AND ZULLO THE CLOWN STILL INVESTIGATING THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE, almost 4 years after Arpiehole lost his job as Sheriff and Zullo the Clown got kicked out of the Cold Crap Posse? :shock:

This is universe-shattering news, at long last! :mrgreen:
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You aren't staying up with the news Foggy. After Sheruf Joe, crushes Sheridan in the primary and plucks that smirk and sheriff's badge off of Penzone on November 3rd, the cold case posse will ride again (and Giddyups will be all alone). :mrgreen:

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Had to let Stephen Lemons know about this :lol: He was nice enough to retweet it.

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Hey @stephenlemons You'll enjoy this -- #Birther Mike Zullo is having a nasty breakup with his buddy Carl Gallups. Sharon Rondeau wrote 10K words, we're laughing at Fogbow. viewtopic.php?p=1153392#p1153392
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Still only three comments at the Post and Email, no word yet from the heavyweights. Where's Chuckles, Volin and Laity?
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Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 5:12 PM

“He [Zullo] also said he told Gallups that he did not think the time was right to bring the investigation up to the surface again.”

When is the right time?

What is the criteria for releasing whatever is left to be released?
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Orlylicious wrote:
Tue Feb 18, 2020 10:19 pm
Still only three comments at the Post and Email, no word yet from the heavyweights. Where's Chuckles, Volin and Laity?
Volin tweeted (without comment) the P&E article. But I suspect Volin only read the headline -- and didn't realize it was a (yet another) birther-civil-war manifesto.

Rondeau has baned some jerk* from the P&E twitter feed. :crying: But I see that this P&E article, like every P&E tweet, received no likes and no retweets. And on Facebook, three likes and two shares. :yawn:


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Right Wing Watch with a Gallups clip from January, he is talking about us!
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So I listened to the beginning of January 24, 2020 episode of Freedom Friday.

Gallups opens to "clarify" some remarks from the prior week's episode ("because I am a man of my word and integrity").

Gallups had (apparently) relayed that Zullo, in an email, gushed about Gallups' birther chapter in ("Dr.") Horn's upcoming book.

Gallups "clarified" it was a text exchange, not an email one. To be oddly specific, from August 2019; Gallups goes out his way to mention that he's archived the exchange.

Gallups then repeats (and expands upon?) Zullo's gushing about the draft Zullo had read. Then, in a somewhat aside, Gallups says that Zullo hasn't read the manuscript sent to Horn ... "but it is 98% the same."

(Gallups slipped and said, "IF the federal government investigates." Gallups needed to sell the possiblity (inevitably!) of an investigation harder.)


On its own, it sounded like the usual Gallups' :yankyank: about birtherism, with a heavy dose of the usual :yankyank: book touting.

But, in light of Rondeau's "reportage," Gallups' tells are ... telling. Gallups isn't "clarifying" some minor details: he's talking to Zullo; Gallups is threatening that he (as the kids say) has the receipts, and everything Gallups has said is technically true (but woefully omissive).

What Gallups didn't say but is (now) painfully inferable is that, in the week between the two episodes, Zullo and Gallups exchanged unkind words.

* * *

Birtherism is over. (I mean, it has been dead for ages. I mean, it never was; it was just a dog-whistle slur.)

The Arpaio-Zullo-Gallups axis had a synergistic effect, however. But now that the band has broken up, their greatest hits will carry them only so far. No one will listen to the Zullo-Rondeau show. And Gallups now lacks a human prop for his dead-horse-flogging routine.

Gallups calculated now is the time to sell, as birtherism is now firmly a depreciating asset. Friendships, loyalties be damned.

Arpaio and Gallups, professional grifters they are, will move on to newer cons and fresh marks. But Zullo and Rondeau, sad-sack true believers, will soldier on.

And Zullo's alleged examiners' alleged reports will eventually be tossed -- unread -- when Zullo's relatives clean out his house for the probate sale. (NADT.)
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Orlylicious wrote:And Realist, I think this means, after so many long years, we can stop panicking? What a treat. Can't wait for more P&E comments (unless all their little heads have exploded).
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It's funny to watch this play out. Zullo and Gallups are fighting over credit for this sham of an investigation that resulted in nothing. They might as well fight over a sack of :shit: :rotflmao:
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I retract my previous observation about birthers. I guess in this case shit doesn't stick together.

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Now the comment section is on FIRE! (13 comments :dance: ). But still nothing from Chuckles, Volin and Laity, it's like the powerhouses are still deeply thinking about it knowing their reactions carry so much weight. And they found the Stone Depos! They are such awesome detectives.

When Foggy called me late last night sobbing, he sounded just like Christopher Thomas Farrell (comment at the bottom). We're going to need to keep checking in on him regularly while he gets through this. But Foggy, take a little heart, Ed Sunderland says, "there are some activities being planned and worked on" so you can take that to the bank.
Jigsaw St. John
Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:50 PM

Is there some reason why Stone should know or spoken with either Zullo or Montgomery?

I don’t remember Stone ever being mentioned as someone they had contact with.

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Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 9:47 AM

Someone else found it: https://www.freedomwatchusa.org/roger-s ... deposition

Lew Harper
Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 9:00 AM

Probably his Freedom Watch site.

https://www.freedomwatchusa.org/

Sharon Rondeau
Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 7:32 AM

Link?

Spencer Dixon
Wednesday, February 19, 2020 at 12:37 AM

Today on his web site Larry Klayman released a videotape of Roger Stone’s deposition. (Klayman and Jerome Corsi are sueing Stone for defamation.)

Stone states, under oath, that he has never spoken to Mike Zullo or Dennis Montgomery.

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Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 10:53 PM

Is this what Carl Gallups a few years ago called “UNIVERSE-SHATTERING” information!
If not, then why have we waited so long without being told the SICK TREASONOUS TRUTH SURROUNDING BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA?

Hey, that almost sounds like a good title for a book, doesn’t it, Pastor Carl.

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Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 10:28 PM

Talk about a strange twist on leaks?!

Any further donations to Carl Gallups’ wicker collection basket should only be holy water.

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Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 9:15 PM

I was saddened to read in the P&E about the falling out between Pastor Carl Gallups and Mike Zullo. I hope and pray these two gentlemen can work out their differences as Christian brothers.

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Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 8:13 PM

Very sorry to hear all this. We are still plugging on this out here in the trenches and we continue to be supplied with hope and there are some activities being planned and worked on.

Obama has to be exposed or we will know for sure the federal government is a sham. I am thinking there is a particular senator that may well be in our fox hole along with us, just trying to see if the evidence shown is really that senator. I am going to run some correspondence that way and see if we can help and identify him. We need some major exposure. Nothing in my view matches the destruction that fake and fraud Obama dealt this country and I see no one working it.

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Tuesday, February 18, 2020 at 8:02 PM

Pastor Gallups and Mike Zullo together approached Col. (Ret.) Allen West together as I recall vaguely at some event where West promised to hear them out and then later when they tried to reach him West would not even take their calls. I wrote an article about West’s cowardice to listen to the facts relating to the Cold Case Posse investigation that was published on the ppsimmons website. I forget the headline of that article.

I’m devastated by this development as I hold both Mike Zullo and Pastor Gallups in the highest regard as American heroes in the front line of the battle to defend the Constitution.

I had always held hope that somehow the findings of the Cold Case Posse investigation would be officially presented to President Trump’s attorney general and that Obama would be held accountable by a military tribunal for the criminal usurpation of the office of POTUS by fraud and for the ongoing cover-up of that crime.

With Pastor Gallups and Mike Zullo falling out I have lost all hope. May God bless America.
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Orlylicious wrote:
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They are such awesome detectives.
If by "they," you mean two trolls, sure. ;) :bighug:
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BREAKING

That is so amazing Sharon can get right through to Mike Zullo -- now, that's power!
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The Post & Email spoke with Mike Zullo, who said he “has never had any contact with Mr. Stone. I don’t know why that question was even asked.”
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The Post & Email spoke with Mike Zullo, who said he “has never had any contact with Mr. Stone. I don’t know why that question was even asked.”
I'm not even sure Klayman knew why the question was asked. And he asked it.

But good to know the two remaining birthers still are so easily baited. :thumbs:
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15,000 hours? At 40 hours a week (which we know is bullshit) with 52 weeks a year that's supposedly him spending 7 and a half years on this. What a waste of a life.

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