Carl Gallups' "BIG 'PLAN A'" - "It's in God's Hands Now!" "THIS STORY WILL MORPH" Starring Birthers Arpaio & Zullo

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Post by realist » Fri Apr 19, 2019 5:02 pm

Suranis wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 4:53 pm
Comments on that lead me to a fresh new Birth certificate forgery video. LET SLIP THE DEBUNKERS OF WAR!!


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Post by bob » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:20 pm

I listened to bits of the pre-show (i.e., Gallups, son, and Shoesmith): "the usual" (universe-shattering evidence that no one will acknowledge, all roads lead to Brennan, real collusion is between the Obama White House and the media). :roll: Mueller investigation was a deep state coup!


Zullo: Some radio personality (yeeeears ago) told Zullo that he was forbidden from discussing the birth certificate on Rush's show. Ditto with Hannity and Lawrence O'Donnell. Daniel Pfeiffer, in his book, boasted about the birth-certificate blackout. "There are CIA operatives embedded in media newsrooms."

[Zullo victory lap re: Mueller; "no collusion"; can't determine if the president obstructed. :yawn: ]

Zullo agrees with Gallups that Democrats are going to start flipping on each other. ["Any day now."]

Zullo the lawyer: "Just because you verbalize a thought, that isn't proof of intent."

"It's game time now!"

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Post by bob » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:31 pm

TPM's article about the Mueller report says Russia breached states' voter rolls:
TPM wrote:In an alarming detail, the redacted report confirms that Russian hackers successfully broke into the Illinois State Board of Elections’ network and “extracted” the information of thousands of voters before the hack was detected.

The FBI believes — though the special counsel did not independently verify— that the hackers also got into a Florida county government’s database.
Zullo: IT WASN'T RUSSIA! It was "our CIA informant" (Montgomery; don't know why they are being coy with his name); Montgomery boasted to Zullo that he hacked Florida's voter rolls -- and uploaded data to it. And it was made to look like the Russians!

The Russians didn't steal Clinton's e-mail; it was downloaded to a thumb drive. [I.e., Seth Rich, but not they're not saying his name.]

Mueller knows it wasn't the Russians; his report is a cover-up!


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Gallups: Baker's closed testimony mentioned Montgomery! (Now they are staying his name.) Arpaio and Zullo were "instrumental" in getting Montgomery immunity. :roll: Rehash: Zullo gave Montgomery to Klayman, etc.

Zullo: Montgomery gave Baker the birth-certificate information. Baker testified that Montgomery gave the FBI information about "surveillance." :roll: "They are deathly afraid, which is why Baker glossed over the topic."

Zullo: "Trump was surveilled since 2001." "The FBI infiltrated the MCSO, but Arpaio caught them."

Gallups tells some tall tale wherein some unknown person promised Gallups a fantastic ministry opportunity abroad, but it was really a beehive of CIA operatives. (No details provided, natch.)

[Gallups and Zullo are off in some woods. But the president knows things that we don't, which is why he appears bizarre.]

Zullo: "I was born in New York. I know their hyperbole." (Oh, we know that you know.)


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Post by Whip » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:50 pm

bob wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:20 pm
on Rush's show. Ditto
I see what you did there

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Post by Whip » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:54 pm

bob wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:31 pm
TPM's article about the Mueller report says Russia breached states' voter rolls:
TPM wrote:In an alarming detail, the redacted report confirms that Russian hackers successfully broke into the Illinois State Board of Elections’ network and “extracted” the information of thousands of voters before the hack was detected.

The FBI believes — though the special counsel did not independently verify— that the hackers also got into a Florida county government’s database.
Zullo: IT WASN'T RUSSIA! It was "our CIA informant" (Montgomery; don't know why they are being coy with his name); Montgomery boasted to Zullo that he hacked Florida's voter rolls -- and uploaded data to it. And it was made to look like the Russians!

The Russians didn't steal Clinton's e-mail; it was downloaded to a thumb drive. (I.e., Seth Rich, but not they're not saying his name.)

Mueller knows it wasn't the Russians; his report is a cover-up!


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the only admitted 'hacker' in all this is Montgomery. just sayin'

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Post by Whip » Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:57 pm

bob wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:49 pm
"The FBI infiltrated the MCSO, but Arpaio caught them."
I thought it was Montgomery that told him.

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Post by bob » Fri Apr 19, 2019 7:01 pm

Whip wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:57 pm
bob wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 6:49 pm
"The FBI infiltrated the MCSO, but Arpaio caught them."
I thought it was Montgomery that told him.
I believe you are correct, but Zullo doesn't sweat details like that.

* * *

[Final segment.]

Zullo: James Clapper said he believes in "passive collusion." (Zullo then misdefines "conspiracy.") "They are trying to pollute your mind with meanless terms." [Oh, the irony -- and then there's a nice monologue about Zullo's projection.]

(Gallups' usual you-haven't-debunked-us! rant. And his usual I've-got-a-secret tease.)

"Obama knows we're closing in on him!"


That's it.

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Over/under on how many articles Rondeau will make of this. (I say three.)
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Post by Orlylicious » Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:35 pm

Bob you are awesome, thank you for that debriefing!

"Obama knows we're closing in on him!"

Wait, what? Did they really say that? :lol: This topic began Sat Apr 13, 2013!

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Orlylicious wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:35 pm
"Obama knows we're closing in on him!"

Wait, what? Did they really say that?
A reasonable paraphrase. And the context was his dramatic outro; Gallups may have been conflating himself (the backwaters preacher) with actual D.C. players.
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Post by Suranis » Sat Apr 20, 2019 1:58 am

Orlylicious wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:35 pm
Bob you are awesome, thank you for that debriefing!

"Obama knows we're closing in on him!"

Wait, what? Did they really say that? :lol: This topic began Sat Apr 13, 2013!
Look, you have to remember that it's the fact that they are closing in that matters, not the speed they are closing in. Russia is closing in on Alaska at a speed of 1cm a year, but its still closing in!
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:lol: :thumbs: PS: Send money! :P
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Post by bob » Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:03 pm

P&E: When “Collusion” Comes Full Circle:
“NOBODY…WOULD EVEN TOUCH IT”

At the 23:21 mark of his Friday night podcast, radio host Carl Gallups spoke with producer and guest Mike Shoesmith about The Post & Email’s April 17 article reporting on a revelation-packed edition of the FNC “Hannity” show.

* * *

Our article connected the Trump-Russia “collusion” narrative, which Special Counsel Robert Mueller found to be unsubstantiated, with the mainstream media’s deep investment in maintaining that the “long-form” birth certificate image posted by the Obama White House on April 27, 2011 is authentic when a criminal investigation found it in 2012 to be fraudulent.

After quoting heavily from our column, Shoesmith segued into the “warehouse full of evidence” former Maricopa County Sheriff Joseph Arpaio says was gathered from the birth-certificate investigation, led by former detective Mike Zullo under Arpaio’s authority between 2011 and late 2016.

* * *

“It just seems to me that Obama and his team are still engaged in bogging down the president in pedafoggery so he won’t have the time to further the evidence that Joe Arpaio says he has a warehouse full of…”

Regarding our reference to media “collusion” to mask the birth certificate forgery, Gallups responded to Shoesmith, “I want to remind our listeners that Mike Zullo reported on that in an official capacity before anyone else ever in the world reported on that…Mike Zullo was involved in a bona fide criminal forensic investigation of the possibility of the Obama fraud concerning his presentation of fake documentation to occupy the seat of commander-in-chief and President of the United States. Neither Mike Zullo nor Sheriff Arpaio have ever publicly speculated on exactly where Obama was born; only in, ‘Was that documentation he presented – the only documentation that the world has ever seen – was it genuine?'”

* * *

Gallups said that Arpaio and Zullo’s evidence includes “whistleblower information,” “sworn affidavits that are now under lock and seal and key,” and “the warehouse of digital, documented paper-trail evidence” (33:45).

“Nobody, for eight years of Obama, of course, would even touch it, and of course we know why now,” Gallups said. “And ever since then, no one would touch it. But I’m going to defend this current administration; until now, until the Mueller report release, nobody really could touch it, because Comey was the director.”

Gallups said that the Justice Department was “full of deep-state operatives” and that the Mueller probe was “designed to water down Trump’s power.” “And I’m convinced, and Sheriff Arpaio is convinced, and Mike Zullo is convinced, and I’m sure many of our listeners are, that the watering-down process was mainly aimed at not allowing Trump to open up this birth certificate investigation before the DOJ or Congress, because that is the foundational crime committed against the United States; the largest, the biggest, the most horrendous crime committed, and we’re sitting on top of a mountain of a five-year criminal forensic investigation by the fourth-largest sheriff’s office in the nation, and so far nobody will report on the details of it.”

* * *

Gallups then stressed that Zullo had said over the course of his investigation that there was “a huge collusion” between the mainstream media and the Obama White House and that Zullo indicated that Obama’s CIA Director, John Brennan, was heavily-involved in the birth certificate matter.
A birther circle jerk. :yawn:
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Post by Mr. Gneiss » Sun Apr 21, 2019 2:44 pm

It just seems to me that Obama and his team are still engaged in bogging down the president in pedafoggery
Poor Rharon tries so hard to sound edumacated. She probably thought her spellchecker wasn't "sophisticated" enough to include pettifoggery.

n.b. If you do a Google search for "pedafoggery" there is only one hit, Rharon's latest piece, "When 'Collusion' Comes Full Circle" :mrgreen:

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Post by realist » Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:15 pm

and we’re sitting on top of a mountain of a five-year criminal forensic investigation by the fourth-largest sheriff’s office in the nation, and so far nobody will report on the details of it.”
No, what you’re sitting on is a mountain of complete Bullshit and lies. That’s all it’s been since day one.

And lots of people have reported on the “details” of it, all those that matter, and reported the truth, that it’s all Bullshit and lies. What’s under lock and key, of course, can’t be reported on because it too is such Bullshit you’re afraid to hold it to public and forensic (real forensic) scrutiny.
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Post by Orlylicious » Sun Apr 21, 2019 6:28 pm

With a capital B!

When it came time to TESTIFY about all this fantasy, "Take Five Mike" took the Fifth Amendment HUNDREDS of times. Our old pal Stephen Lemons laid out the fraud, liar and idiot Mike Zullo is. I wish Stephen had won a Pulitzer for his coverage of Menendez, he was amazing.

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Joe Arpaio's Posse Investigator Does 180, Sings About Seattle Investigation
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Will the real Mike Zullo please stand up?

By noon Thursday, Zullo had invoked his Fifth Amendment privilege against self-incrimination nearly 220 times under questioning from plaintiffs' counsel Stanley Young. It was day 19 of Sheriff Joe Arpaio's exhaustive contempt trial.

Through much of it, Zullo looked perturbed as Young probed the sheriff's Cold Case Posse commander on e-mail strings, text messages, and even audio recordings that Zullo had created during the MCSO's year-plus-long Seattle investigation, first exposed by New Times in June 2014.

After lunch, before Zullo's testimony continued, reporters joked about how long it would take for Zullo to get to 300 times taking the Fifth. After all, he'd taken the Fifth 40 times in 15 minutes on Tuesday, right before the court broke for the Veterans Day holiday.

At his November 9 deposition in the case, Zullo had taken the Fifth almost 350 times in a four-hour session, a Ripley's Believe It or Not kind of number.


Such prodigious use of the Fifth Amendment earned him the nickname "Take Five Mike" from one wag.

In any case, Zullo's afternoon testimony began, and he took the Fifth a few more times under Young's questioning. Then, Arpaio's attorney, John Masterson, got a crack at Zullo, and, interestingly, Zullo began answering Masterson's questions.

Masterson asked Zullo why he had been taking the Fifth, and Zullo told him it was because he hadn't been given enough time to find "adequate counsel."

Also, Zullo pointed the finger, as he has in the recent past, to a footnote in one pleading by the plaintiffs, listing possible federal crimes that may have been committed by "MCSO personnel" during the course of the investigation.

Zullo refuted these "hellacious, hellacious accusations," insisting that this "was never our intention."

"Did you want to find any damaging info on Snow?" wondered Masterson.

"Hell, no," replied Zullo.

Masterson ended his brief cross-examination, and Young was given time to ask questions on redirect, as is common.

Zullo continued to respond, getting louder and more animated with each gentle query by Young. Zullo insisted that Snow had been just one of more than 150,000 Maricopa County residents identified by Montgomery as having had their personal data illegally "harvested" by the CIA.

"Sir, you were a victim," Zullo said, turning to Judge Snow, then back at Young. "I never did anything to hurt this man."

The posse man attempted to explain why he and the MCSO's case agent, Brian Mackiewicz, ended up in Montgomery's house in tony Bellevue, Washington, in 2013, with the confidential informant's running Snow's name in his database — a database he supposedly had acquired while working as a subcontractor for the CIA.

But Zullo seemed to be digging himself deeper.

"We were looking for high-profile people in Maricopa County," Zullo explained.

You know, like a federal judge. That's when Zullo had a bright idea.

"`Who is the federal judge in this Melendres thing?'" Zullo recalled asking.

Montgomery did an Internet search, and eventually came up with the name of G. Murray Snow, which he entered into his super-secret database.

Four minutes later, according to Zullo, Snow's name popped up, as did his address and indicators that Snow's banking and IRS records had been harvested by the CIA. Zullo says he went to Arpaio, and a plan was developed.

"The plan going forward was to [get Montgomery] to give us information on this judge," Zullo explained, then investigators would approach Snow and get him to verify it. But this never happened.

"We weren't doing anything on Judge Snow," Zullo said. "This was always going to the FBI . . . We needed Montgomery to go to the FBI . . . in a cooperative manner."

So Zullo played along with Montgomery, who was suspicious of the FBI because Montgomery's house had been raided by agents previously. Zullo said this is one reason they took Zullo to federal Judge Royce Lamberth in D.C., seeking guidance on Montgomery's claims, a meeting that was set up by Montgomery's lawyer, Larry Klayman.

"This was a brain-damaged dance I did with this guy," Zullo said of Montgomery.

Zullo accused Young of trying to paint him as the bad guy, taking various e-mails he had written out of context.

"What is this, a star chamber?" he blurted out. "Don't my rights matter?"

If Zullo's non-Fifth-taking testimony could be seen, initially, as helpful to Arpaio, at least when Masterson was cross-examining Zullo, it didn't remain that way.

"I didn't know any federal judges," Zullo said of why they asked about Snow's name and not that of some other federal judge in Maricopa County. "It wasn't that we targeted Judge Snow to 'target' Judge Snow."

Young then began to bring up various exhibits, asking Zullo to verify them, then entering them into evidence, one after another. Zullo seemed suddenly aware of what was going on and announced that he was answering too many questions.

"I don't know what I'm doing," he said, seeking guidance from Snow.

The judge said he could not give him legal advice. But he tried, patiently, to explain what was going on to Zullo. Essentially, Zullo had opened the door to further questions from the plaintiffs.

Snow told Zullo: "You cannot invoke the Fifth and not invoke the Fifth" without consequences.

"You have to be consistent in your invocation" or, in volunteering answers, you give the plaintiffs opportunity to inquire even more.

There was a discussion among the attorneys, then Snow called an afternoon break to study the issue.

When he returned, he told Zullo that he could invoke "on a question-by-question basis" but that this may involve a "waiver" of his Fifth Amendment privilege to a greater or lesser degree.

He told Zullo this may mean him having to return the next day.

"I was almost out, sir," Zullo laughed.

But Zullo did not invoke the Fifth for the remainder of the day, instead answering all of Young's questions.

After his testimony, Zullo seemed relieved. Outside the courthouse, when reporters asked him why he did a 180 from the morning, he said he was bothered buy the insinuation that he and others involved in the Seattle investigation had sought to investigate Judge Snow.

"I would never do that," Zullo explained. "If you're asking me what the motivation was, it could have been that accusation leveled by Mr. Young that somehow we used [Montgomery's] database. We never used his database."

A statement that seems contradicted by his own testimony.

On Tuesday, when Zullo was asked about his taking the Fifth, he responded, in part, that reporters should "wait till Thursday."

When that was brought up again Thursday, he admitted that he could have been thinking about doing it then. That is, dropping the invocation of the Fifth and just answering questions.

But Zullo's statement on Tuesday has led to speculation online: Could Zullo's about-face on Thursday have been part of a plan by the defense and Zullo to enter exculpatory testimony into the record, or at least to offer a version of events to the public that countered that of the plaintiffs?

This theory might work with some of Zullo's testimony, but not all of it.

In the morning, Zullo was confronted time and again with damning communications between him and the MCSO's confidential informant, supposed computer guru Montgomery.

In one recorded phone call from April 2014, Montgomery told Zullo of instructions from Sergeant Travis Anglin, one of two MCSO detectives on the case with Zullo, to "slow play" his work for Sheriff Arpaio.

"Why would they tell you to slow down?" Zullo asked Montgomery.

"It was because at that time, I was doing Snow stuff," Montgomery replied, referring to information he supposedly had been digging up on the judge.

"Son of a bitch!" Zullo responded.

Later in the same recording, he told Montgomery, "I'll talk to Joe on Wednesday when I get out there."

Incriminating on its face. But in the morning, Young was having to work to get any of this into evidence, because Zullo took the Fifth on everything — and because Masterson had a standing objection to the information's admission that Snow said he would have to rule on later.

Other passages from e-mail correspondence between Montgomery and Zullo were just as bad.

Like when Montgomery wrote to Zullo after a falling out, telling him in one e-mail to "go back to spying on Judge Snow and the monitor."

Or when Mackiewicz, Zullo, and Montgomery discussed running different names in Montgomery's massive database of personal information, supposedly including Social Security numbers, passwords, and banking info.

At one point in a recording of the conversation, Zullo asked Montgomery, "How would you destroy someone with this information?"

A voice later identified as Montgomery's suggested that he could accuse someone of being a pedophile and then "upload pedophile pictures into their" e-mails.

And if someone's bank account was known, an IRS complaint could be set up.

Young played a long passage from an audio recording of an October 2013 meeting at MCSO headquarters with Zullo, Mackiewicz, Arpaio, and then-timber billionaire Tim Blixseth present.

In a weird, rambling explanation, Blixseth recounted Montgomery's history for Arpaio, and Montgomery's business partnership with Blixseth's ex-wife, Edra.

During Blixseth's divorce from his ex, Montgomery switched sides, telling Blixseth that he wanted to make amends because, Montgomery supposedly told him, he had just had a stroke.

Blixseth said Montgomery told him that not only had the mysterious computer whiz hacked into information pertaining to Blixseth, but that Montgomery was a kind of Edward Snowden, the famed whistleblower who exposed the federal government's massive program of harvesting data from millions of Americans.

Montgomery told Blixseth of his own work for the CIA, saying to the billionaire he had helped develop a secret computer system called the Hammer, which was first used on Al Qaeda but later used to target U.S. citizens.

"I hacked into all of America for [CIA Director John] Brennan and [Director of National Intelligence James] Clapper," Blixseth said Montgomery told him, later adding, "Snowden is a punk. He doesn't have any info like I have."

Blixseth, now an ex-billionaire and in federal custody on contempt charges in a bankruptcy case, said he believed Brennan, before working for the Obama administration, had gained access to Obama's birth certificate and modified it somehow.

Apparently, Montgomery allegedly had access to this information because Montgomery, at one point, hacked into Brennan's and U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder's e-mails.

At first, the Hammer was used on Al Qaeda targets, "Mohammad this, Abdullah that," Blixseth said.

But later, it allegedly was used to harvest information from Citigroup, Sprint, Verizon, and AT&T. Montgomery told Blixseth that he was ordered to tamper with Florida's election file, uploading new info to it to replace information he took from it.

Disillusioned, according to Blixseth, Montgomery squirreled away some of the data he had taken from Americans on the CIA's behalf.

Blixseth tried to get Montgomery whistleblower status, but Montgomery was rejected by 18 different agencies, Blixseth said. Which is why Blixseth was seeking Arpaio's help against the Justice Department, Eric Holder, and Holder's lieutenant, Assistant U.S. Attorney Lanny Breuer.

All of whose names later would make appearances in Montgomery's timelines and flow charts outlining a conspiracy against Arpaio.

Montgomery needed immunity, said Blixseth, otherwise he and Montgomery could be charged with federal crimes for swiping classified information from the federal government.

Would anyone in Arizona give Montgomery immunity, particularly if there were 150,000 victims in Maricopa County?

"We're experts at all this shit," Arpaio's voice can be heard saying, but he doubts he can find a prosecutor in Arizona with the "balls" to take the case.

Blixseth said he had "big-time lawyers" advising him that if Montgomery could get immunity, he and Montgomery could not be prosecuted because of the legal doctrine called "the fruit of the poison tree."

Otherwise, said Blixseth, the feds "are going to say we stole this info."

Arpaio at one point joked: Didn't Blixseth have an extra $20,000 so they could have a lawyer look into all this and make sure none of them got in trouble?

The sheriff agreed to get involved but said he wanted to "keep this very quiet," otherwise, he cracked, someone "may end up with a bullet in his brain."

It's important to note that both Arpaio and Sheridan have agreed that what they got from Montgomery was "junk."

Also, NSA analysts hired by the MCSO said the information in Montgomery's database was worthless — and that Montgomery was "a complete and total fraud."


In one of the other audiotapes from Zullo played by Young is a phone conversation between Montgomery and Zullo.

Montgomery alleges that Arpaio's investigators had him redo receipts for his payments from the MCSO as a confidential informant. According to Montgomery, they wanted to hide $7,000 that he had been given by the MCSO

"[An MCSO detective] left off a bag of money; I think it was seven grand," Montgomery told Zullo in the recording.

"Sheridan said to go do it," Montgomery was told. "But the [MCSO] can't be involved in it."

Thursday afternoon, after deciding to answer questions, Zullo told Young that Montgomery wanted to use a supercomputer at Lockheed in Los Angeles that would allow him to do his work with his massive database faster.

The "bag of money" was meant to help Montgomery gain "access" to this supercomputer, according to Zullo. The full meaning of this detail remains unknown.

Such revelations and their legal implications suggest that Zullo's testimony, both before and after his 180, was not helpful to Arpaio in any way.

Zullo only opened up himself, and possibly Arpaio and Sheridan, to further questions.

The posse commander is back on the stand this morning, and the plaintiffs have mentioned possibly recalling Arpaio.

At the end of the day Thursday, Masterson, who had suggested previously that the defense would recall Sheridan, said it would have no more witnesses. Sheridan was present in court despite back woes.

Smart move, considering Zullo's implosion on the stand.

Maricopa County's attorney, Richard Walker, said the county was re-thinking putting anyone on the stand, as was contemplated at one point.

Snow suggested that oral arguments in the civil contempt case would take place on November 20 and that he would then make findings of fact and determine remedies for the civil portion.

As for a possible referral of criminal contempt charges, that would come later, after he gives defendants' criminal attorneys a chance to weigh in.
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Post by bob » Sun Apr 21, 2019 9:53 pm

P&E: Mike Zullo Describes “Collusion with Media Executives”:
“NOT TO TALK ABOUT THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE”

In an exclusive and revealing interview, Obama birth certificate investigator Mike Zullo was Carl Gallups’s guest during the second hour of the April 19 edition of “Freedom Friday.”

* * *

Prior to Zullo’s appearance, producer and guest Mike Shoesmith read from an article published at The Post & Email Wednesday theorizing that the mainstream media “colluded” with the Obama regime to obscure the creation of a “long-form” birth certificate image to satisfy Americans that Obama was eligible to serve as president. The image was posted at whitehouse.gov on April 27, 2011 to much media fanfare but few questions, and Zullo has said its release was accomplished “with the intent to deceive.”

* * *

Relating to current events reported by FNC’s Sean Hannity in which “Deep State” operatives in the FBI, DOJ, State Department, and Congress conspired to circulate the unverified “dossier” to harm Donald Trump’s campaign, impact the election, and thwart Trump’s eventual presidency, Gallups said that Zullo and then-Sheriff Joseph Arpaio, who authorized the birth certificate probe in August 2011, discovered the existence of what is now known as the “Deep State.”

At the time, the term “Deep State” was not invoked. Zullo stated in subsequent interviews that he and Arpaio were stunned after they revealed at a March 1, 2012 press conference that the investigation showed probable cause to believe the birth certificate image to be a “computer-generated forgery” and neither the media nor federal law-enforcement showed any curiosity.

Against the backdrop of recently-revealed “Deep State” capabilities in the form of surveillance of American citizens and what Gallups described as an “attempt at a coup,” Gallups recounted to producer/guest mike Shoesmith Zullo and Arpaio’s discovery that in early 2011 the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) breached Hawaii government computers, including those at the Hawaii Department of Health (HDOH), in a trail from Hawaii to Jakarta, Indonesia and back to Washington, DC.

The data showing the breaches was supplied by former NSA and CIA contractor Dennis Montgomery, who himself has been a victim of government overreach, according to a federal judge. Moreover, evidence he presented to the FBI in 2015 of extensive and warrantless government surveillance of Americans was “deep-sixxed,” according to Zullo, by then-FBI General Counsel James Baker, a top assistant to then-FBI Director James Comey.

In a closed-door congressional interview last fall, Baker admitted to having received the information but did not say what he did with it.

Gallups said that the “Deep State” activity and “entanglements” which Americans have now witnessed as a result of the Trump-Russia “collusion” probe, concluded March 22 by Special Counsel Robert Mueller with no findings of “collusion,” were observed by Arpaio and Zullo during the course of the birth-certificate investigation.

Arpaio also believes he was prosecuted criminally by the Obama Justice Department because of the birth-certificate probe, Gallups reported. Convicted without a jury of contempt of court as a result of a civil-rights lawsuit and facing sentencing in October 2017, Trump issued the first pardon of his administration to Arpaio in late August that year.

“It all ties to the birth certificate; you’re going to find out,” Gallups told his audience.

Gallups brought in Zullo at the 46:19 mark. “Over two years of this Deep State attempt at a coup using the Mueller investigation…now you and I knew years ago there was a coup going on…” Gallups opened the discussion.

Zullo confirmed that at one point, he had made a call to Gallups “on the panic side” after making what he believed to be a significant discovery. He went on to describe an incident whereby a substitute host for The Rush Limbaugh Show related that his producer forbade him from discussing the Obama birth certificate issue following either the first (March 1, 2012) or second (July 17, 2012) press conference in which Zullo divulged details solidifying his finding that the long-form image is fraudulent.

“Basically, the producer of that show came to that fill-in guest [sic] and told him in no way was he going to do that,” Zullo recalled. After the guest host “pushed back,” Zullo said, the producer, according to the guest host, said, “If you do anything on that birth certificate, you will never work in this industry again.”

“He related this to me firsthand,” Zullo said, adding that he promised the individual permanent anonymity.

Zullo then recalled that after the first presser, he himself was scheduled to appear on Sean Hannity’s radio show and with Lawrence O’Donnell of MSNBC, but “once they found out, or watched, and realized where we were going, they killed it.”

“What I came to understand was — and I used to say on your show — there’s a media blackout. Nobody wants to cover this; nobody wants to talk about it.”

Zullo referred to a book published last year by Obama Communications Director Dan Pfeiffer who Zullo said “actually boasts of the media blackout surrounding the [birth certificate] issue.”

“And what does that tell you?” Zullo continued. “It was Fox News; it was MSNBC; it was everything across the gambit that an order had to come down somewhere: collusion with media executives not to talk about the birth certificate. [Emphasis in original.] That’s bone-chilling.”

He then made another significant statement: “We’ve also come to learn and understand from media executives that there actually are CIA employees embedded in media newsrooms. They’re not supposed to be doing that. The CIA’s charter is not to work inside the confines of the United States of America. They’re supposed to work outside, abroad.”
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Post by Orlylicious » Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:48 pm

Hey Mike and Birfers, There's a much easier explanation than your pretzel twisting, ridiculous tinfoil hat theories -- President Obama was born in Hawaii and had a parent who was a US Citizen. Funny how the truth is so easy to explain, doesn't change, and is accepted by rational people around the world. But with screws loose in both their heads, for no apparent reason they just have to lie to people for the 7th or 8th year...
Gallups recounted to producer/guest mike Shoesmith Zullo and Arpaio’s discovery that in early 2011 the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) breached Hawaii government computers, including those at the Hawaii Department of Health (HDOH), in a trail from Hawaii to Jakarta, Indonesia and back to Washington, DC.

The data showing the breaches was supplied by former NSA and CIA contractor Dennis Montgomery, who himself has been a victim of government overreach, according to a federal judge. Moreover, evidence he presented to the FBI in 2015 of extensive and warrantless government surveillance of Americans was “deep-sixxed,” according to Zullo, by then-FBI General Counsel James Baker, a top assistant to then-FBI Director James Comey.
Can we get Rharon to post what this information was when Joe and Mike were UNDER OATH? Because
It's important to note that both Arpaio and Sheridan have agreed that what they got from Montgomery was "junk."

Also, NSA analysts hired by the MCSO said the information in Montgomery's database was worthless — and that Montgomery was "a complete and total fraud."
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Post by Notorial Dissent » Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:33 am

Orlylicious wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:48 pm
Hey Mike and Birfers, There's a much easier explanation than your pretzel twisting, ridiculous tinfoil hat theories -- President Obama was born in Hawaii and had a parent who was a US Citizen. Funny how the truth is so easy to explain, doesn't change, and is accepted by rational people around the world. But with screws loose in both their heads, for no apparent reason they just have to lie to people for the 7th or 8th year...
Gallups recounted to producer/guest mike Shoesmith Zullo and Arpaio’s discovery that in early 2011 the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) breached Hawaii government computers, including those at the Hawaii Department of Health (HDOH), in a trail from Hawaii to Jakarta, Indonesia and back to Washington, DC.

The data showing the breaches was supplied by former NSA and CIA contractor Dennis Montgomery, who himself has been a victim of government overreach, according to a federal judge. Moreover, evidence he presented to the FBI in 2015 of extensive and warrantless government surveillance of Americans was “deep-sixxed,” according to Zullo, by then-FBI General Counsel James Baker, a top assistant to then-FBI Director James Comey.
Can we get Rharon to post what this information was when Joe and Mike were UNDER OATH? Because
It's important to note that both Arpaio and Sheridan have agreed that what they got from Montgomery was "junk."

Also, NSA analysts hired by the MCSO said the information in Montgomery's database was worthless — and that Montgomery was "a complete and total fraud."
You are right on all counts. Of course, since none of what you say exists in the same irreality she occupies or complies with her pre-conceptions, her deeply held delusions, or is in line with her immense sense of journalistic integrity. :sarcasm:
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Post by Sam the Centipede » Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:56 am

Orlylicious wrote:
Sun Apr 21, 2019 11:48 pm
Hey Mike and Birfers, There's a much easier explanation than your pretzel twisting, ridiculous tinfoil hat theories -- President Obama was born in Hawaii and had a parent who was a US Citizen.
:fingerwag: You poor deluded fool OL! Let me explain how unlikely that overly simple "explanation" is using BirtherMatics™. There are 195 countries in the world. The USA has 50 states. There are approximately 400 million US citizens in a world population of about 7600 million.

So the probability of a person – Mr. Obama – being born in the USA, in the state of Hawaii, to a US citizen mother is 1/195 × 1/50 × 400/7600 = 1/185250!!

Those are huge odds against your explanation so it must be rejected as wholly implausible.

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Post by bob » Mon Apr 22, 2019 6:49 pm

P&E: Zullo Expounds on “Russia Collusion,” Government Spying and WikiLeaks:
SAYS ASSANGE ARREST “JUST ANOTHER COVER”

In an hour-long interview on the April 19 edition of “Freedom Friday” hosted by Carl Gallups, Obama birth-certificate lead investigator Mike Zullo said that during the course of his probe, he learned that the CIA has “employees embedded in media newsrooms” in order to shape the information which ultimately reaches the public.

* * *

The total cost of [the SCO's] investigation, Zullo said, is reported at $25 million, although some sources say it will be declared higher in a final accounting. “You’ve got all of that, and there is no evidence of collusion,” Zullo said, referring to Mueller’s conclusion that no one in the Trump campaign, nor any American, conspired with Russia to affect the outcome of the 2016 election.

Zullo then contended that “Democrats” are attempting to “keep this thing going” to “cover up their own sins” with a new investigative effort focused on “obstruction” as evidenced by pledges from prominent House committee leaders to launch new investigations into Trump’s financial dealings when he was a businessman and to build upon Mueller’s indecisive conclusion as to whether or not Trump obstructed justice when he fired FBI Director James Comey or afterward.

“If you can’t determine it, it didn’t happen,” the former detective said of the accusations against Trump which Mueller was unable to confirm.

At 53:22, Gallups, a former deputy sheriff, rejoined that “the real criminals” are now under investigation, including “the Democrats,” Hillary Clinton, Comey, former Attorney General Loretta Lynch, and former CIA Director John Brennan. “They know that there was real collusion among them,” Gallups said, which he said “goes all the way to Obama.” “These next couple of years, Mike, are going to be like a roller-coaster ride, I think. What do you think?”

Zullo agreed and opined that it would take “one guy or gal to flip. One guy turns, it’s going to topple like dominoes, because everybody’s going to be out to save themselves. And if you want to talk about obstruction of justice…the poster-child for that is Hillary Clinton and her email server fiasco. That’s absolute obstruction.”

* * *

At the 56:00 mark, Zullo compared Clinton’s exoneration to the Mueller investigation, which he said used “cherry-picked” information to suggest Trump committed “obstruction of justice” in the absence of a finding of “collusion.”

“This is game-time,” Zullo commented at the end of the segment. Gallups commented that Zullo had uttered certain “names” heretofore unmentioned, referring to the earlier part of the interview in which Zullo identified a guest host from The Rush Limbaugh Show and a canceled appearance on MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell’s show in 2012 following the initial birth-certificate presser.

Gallups opened the new segment by stating that the silencing of the media is “still happening,” such as with “the birth certificate investigation.”

* * *

In an alarming detail, the redacted report confirms that Russian hackers successfully broke into the Illinois State Board of Elections’ network and “extracted” the information of thousands of voters before the hack was detected.

The FBI believes — though the special counsel did not independently verify— that the hackers also got into a Florida county government’s database.

* * *

Against that backdrop, Gallups asked Zullo about revelations made to him some years ago by former NSA/CIA contractor Dennis Montgomery involving what could have been government-directed voter fraud. Montgomery constructed software programs which “harvested data surreptitiously,” Zullo said, and was asked by the CIA to “breach the Florida voter rolls and download the entire database.”

“It wasn’t the first time he was asked to download things,” Zullo said, but reported that Montgomery said it was the first time he was “asked to upload the contents of a drive back into the Florida voter rolls, and that was done by him.”

Zullo said the software Montgomery designed allows the user to “make it appear it comes from anywhere in the globe and make you believe through your analysis that it’s a foreign entity.”

* * *

Zullo also referenced former NSA software developer William Binney,[*] who retired from the agency after he saw what he believed to be Fourth-Amendment violations against Americans following the 9/11 attacks. “I verified that very claim with him,” Zullo said. He said Binney studied the emails stolen from the DNC and Clinton campaign in 2016. In regard to “stolen emails that they’re still trying to say Russia stole and hacked the Clinton emails and WikiLeaks is part of that, that didn’t happen,” Zullo said.

He said that Binney determined that “the download speed” of the DNC/Clinton server breaches “did not come from anywhere like that; the download speed went from the computer system of the DNC to a thumb drive or a hard drive. There was nothing anywhere else. That’s going to take the WikiLeaks thing off the table.”

Zullo drew a connection between the downfall of the “Russia collusion” theory with Assange’s April 12 arrest at London’s Ecuadorian embassy, terming it “just another cover.”

“They’re covering their own dirty deeds,” Gallups said, with which Zullo agreed as the segment ended.
* Binney claimed to be a whistleblower in a Klayman suit. (The plaintiffs eventually dumped Klayman and voluntarily dismissed their suit.) The whole so-fast-it-must-have-been-a-thumb-drive is a theory favored by the it-was-Seth-Rich crowd (Sethers? Richers? Assholes?)
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Post by bob » Tue Apr 23, 2019 2:05 pm

P&E: Zullo: “Birth Certificate Information” Given to FBI:
“THAT’S WHY HE GLOSSED OVER IT”

In the second hour of last week’s “Freedom Friday” show hosted by Carl Gallups, guest and lead Obama birth-certificate investigator Mike Zullo revealed new information on the media “blackout” he experienced and observed after declaring the image posted on the White House said to represent Obama’s “long-form” birth certificate from Hawaii a “computer-generated forgery” in 2012.

Zullo additionally theorized that the April 11 arrest and imprisonment of WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange was orchestrated as a “cover-up” for the claims made in Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s report released last Thursday that the Russian military/intelligence service, known as the GRU, penetrated the servers of the Democratic National Committee (DNC) and Hillary Clinton campaign in 2016, obtained tens of thousands of emails, then transferred them to WikiLeaks (pp. 43-45 of report).

* * *

At 1:07:00 in the podcast, Gallups mentioned that former CIA/NSA contractor Dennis Montgomery’s presentation to the FBI of data he said showed massive government spying on Americans without a warrant was known to former FBI Deputy Assistant Director of Counterintelligence Peter Strzok and FBI counsel Lisa Page as evidenced in text messages the two exchanged in March 2017 as the FBI’s Russia “collusion” investigation was under way.

Zullo recounted information he previously disclosed on Gallups’ show: that after supervising Montgomery’s work as a confidential informant for the Maricopa County Sheriff’s Office (MCSO) in 2014 regarding alleged data breaches, he and Atty. Larry Klayman arranged to have Montgomery provide the surveillance information to a federal judge followed by top officials at the FBI in the persons of General Counsel James Baker and Director James Comey.

Montgomery testified twice to the FBI in late 2015, Zullo has reported.

* * *

Referring to the transcript from Baker’s second closed-door testimony to members of Congress last fall, Zullo said, “Jim Jordan of the House Judiciary Committee is questioning James Baker, who was the attorney under Comey for the FBI, and I reported on your show that Klayman was successful in getting Montgomery to the FBI, and he turned over the same information and more than he had given us, including the birth certificate investigation material. He turned it all over to the FBI; he turned it over to James Baker.

“James Baker under oath is asked about any other kind of government surveillance, and what he says is there was an attorney that brought some information to them, and he was subsequently asked, ‘What kind of information? What did it have to do with?’ and his answer is, ‘Well, it had to do with surveillance…’

Zullo continued, “…Then someone on the committee asked, ‘Unlawful surveillance of whom?’ ‘Of Americans, including government officials,’ Baker responded.”

“Now that is the same information we disclosed that we were involved with on your radio show,” Zullo said. “So if people think we’re lying, we’re not lying. Montgomery’s name is in the Page-Strzok text messages…”

“So here comes James Baker in a closed-door meeting before the House Intelligence Committee basically parroting back what you’ve been disclosing on Freedom Friday,” Gallups responded.

Zullo said that Baker is “deathly afraid” of the data Montgomery provided. “That’s why he glossed over it. He didn’t want to have any more questions thrown at him regarding that information. That information, coupled together with the birth certificate information, that would have stopped everything we are going through now; it never would have happened.”

Zullo reminded the audience that Arpaio discovered that the FBI “infiltrated” one of his past political campaigns and “got caught.” “It’s not the first time they do these things,” Zullo said. “So anybody that thinks this is a one-off, you’re being lied to. It’s not a one-off.”

At 1:13:00, Gallups broke news by divulging that he received, while Obama was still in the White House, an invitation to a “foreign country” along with what he said were “fantastical promises.” “It all got very dark and nefarious, but they kept begging me, ‘Come to this place,'” Gallups said.

“And then I did some research and found out: the place they were bringing me is a beehive of CIA operative for the USA.” [sic]

Gallups said Zullo is aware of “all the deep facts” about the invitation. Gallups declared he is “convinced” that “they were trying to get me out of the country so that they could disappear me so that this media outlet would disappear from you and Sheriff Arpaio…This is how nasty and dirty this thing is.”

Zullo said that the nation is currently embroiled in a “fight” he described as “a battle of good and evil. They are trying to take this country down…right now, they’re kind-of succeeding.”

After discussing Donald Trump’s presidency, his style and detractors, Gallups said that Trump “holds the keys to the foundational crime of the birth certificate — fake documentation of a fake guy running our military and our world, and they were hoping Hillary Clinton would come right behind him and clean it all up…”
So that's three articles about Zullo's fever dreams, and a bonus article about the Zullo pre-show.
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Post by Orlylicious » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:10 pm

You nailed it Bob! If only Rharon's track record was anywhere as good :lol:
Over/under on how many articles Rondeau will make of this. (I say three.)
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Post by Dolly » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:17 pm

I googled some text from the last article: ‘Unlawful surveillance of whom?’ ‘Of Americans, including government officials,’ Baker responded.”

FWIW I found a link to
Baker Transcript Oct 18
INTERVIEW OF: JAMES A. BAKER (DAY 2)
Thursday, October 18, 2018

https://www.judicialwatch.org/document- ... pt-oct-18/

The link to the pdf file for the transcript
http://www.judicialwatch.org/wp-content ... 18.pdf?V=1
“Now that is the same information we disclosed that we were involved with on your radio show,” Zullo said. “So if people think we’re lying, we’re not lying. Montgomery’s name is in the Page-Strzok text messages…”
I do NOT know if Montgomery was mentioned in the text messages.
Montomery was mentioned ONE time in the testimony. Klayman was mentioned maybe 5 times.

I didn't look for DAY 1 testimony.
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Post by bob » Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:33 pm

Dolly wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:17 pm
“Now that is the same information we disclosed that we were involved with on your radio show,” Zullo said. “So if people think we’re lying, we’re not lying. Montgomery’s name is in the Page-Strzok text messages…”
I do NOT know if Montgomery was mentioned in the text messages.
Montomery was mentioned ONE time in the testimony. Klayman was mentioned maybe 5 times.
That's correct; Montgomery was mentioned in a March 19, 2017 text.

But Zullo and Gallups did their usual omissions/misdirections/outright lies. They "fail" to mention that Montgomery had dumped his hard drives into the FBI's lap (to hide them from James Risen). And, yes, the FBI interviewed Montgomery for a few hours, in which Montgomery essentially told the FBI that he wasn't going to tell them how to access any of the data on the hard drives. And the FBI in turn stopped chasing that wild goose.

And none of this is new: This all came out during Klayman's fail in Montgomery v. Risen.

But Zullo and Gallups act like this is (1) big and (2) new, when it is neither. And then they embellish and say Montgomery provided the FBI with information about Obama's birth certificate. (Did he? How do they know?) As is their wont, they (again) wove true facts into lies, so that they could claim their accuracy in some parts bolsters their overall accuracy.
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