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Post #9401 by mighty dawg » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:12 am

realist wrote:A lot of the "usual" Lyin' Carl fluffing Zullo.

Zullo talks about how people believe Snopes when they say the (both this one and the one Orly filed with the court) are fake but Snopes has no "experts" no source for their conclusions like Zullo does. Zullo has 2 certified reports from 2 continents from certified experts who say Obama's BC is a complete forgery.

BUT what's really going on is with this "new" release of the fake BC is that "they" know the poop is about to hit the fan re Obama's forged BC and so they now re-release this fake so as to denigrate Zullo's expert analyses, etc.

So it's all done to discredit Zullo/Arpaio and protect Obama by propaganda.

Sigh...It's such a sad sight to watch when someone has desperately over-expended their unearned fifteen minutes of fame.


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Post #9402 by Notorial Dissent » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:33 am

:rolleye: :dazed: :sarcasm: birfer logic. Two reports, my Aunt Fanny.


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Post #9403 by Sam the Centipede » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:39 am

mighty dawg wrote:
realist wrote:A lot of the "usual" Lyin' Carl fluffing Zullo. :snippity:

Sigh...It's such a sad sight to watch when someone has desperately over-expended their unearned fifteen minutes of fame.

And such paltry "fame": a tiny flock of right-wing :torches: nutjob :rolleye: birthers and a slightly larger :rotflmao: gaggle of giggling liberals :knitting: debunking and ridiculing their idiocy.



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Post #9404 by mighty dawg » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:24 am

Interesting to note Mike's emphatic disclaimer that he's no longer associated with MCSO. He also said he "resigned" from the CCP after Penzone was elected. Also noteworthy is that Zullo is now resurrecting Montgomery's crap - you know, the stuff Arpaio admitted on the stand was "junk." He and Gallups are wishing hope against hope that Trump and Congress restart the "investigation" soon. Afterall, they now have "universe-shattering" court-ready evidence just waiting in the wings, ready to take down the "deep-state."

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Post #9405 by bob » Sun Mar 12, 2017 12:09 pm

Zullo also mangled the history of Taitz's courtroom adventures. (Zullo seemed to relish saying Taitz by name when describing her failure.)

Zullo "explained" that the fake Kenyan certificate was built just like Obama's!: By taking pieces from a real one. But it was clear that Zullo was describing the Bomford certificate, and not Smith's. (And that's not how either was built.)

Gallups brags that Obots still don't know everything that they know about the deep, dark universe-shattering information. :roll: And they still can't tell. Zullo can't reveal until Congress investigates!

The birth certificate rehash petered out, so they rehashed Montgomery. :roll:


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Rharon. Gallups: "Very Soon!"

Obama Birth Certificate Investigator: Government Spying “Very Deep, Very Bad”
By Sharon Rondeau on Sunday, March 12, 2017 No Comment
“IT’S VERY ANTI-AMERICAN”

(Mar. 12, 2017) — On Friday, Obama birth certificate investigator Mike Zullo was Carl Gallups’s guest on his “Freedom Friday” radio show to discuss revelations made approximately two years ago about extensive government surveillance of U.S. citizens by a former NSA and CIA contractor.

The interview began with a recap of the reappearance of a purported Kenyan birth certificate bearing the name “Barack Hussein Obama II” featured at The Drudge Report for “two days” after it was tweeted unexpectedly by Malik Obama, Barack Obama’s claimed half-brother, on Thursday. To this writer, the image tweeted by Malik Obama appears to match that which was provided to The Post & Email and several other outlets by Lucas Smith, who claimed he obtained it by paying officials at the Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa, Kenya $5,000 in February 2009.

To our knowledge, the document has never been authenticated. One of the points made by Zullo was that Snopes.com declared the Kenyan “birth certificate” “a fake” without presenting any evidence of having consulted with the issuing authority. In its article, updated on March 10, 2017, Snopes “Fact Checker” David Mikkelson invoked the Smith image as well as the “Bomford” birth certificate allegedly originating with an Australian citizen and later found to have been an online hoax.
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Zullo observed that Snopes made no mention of the 5+-year investigation he completed which incorporated the conclusions of forgery of two court-recognized forensic document analysts approaching their examination of the image from two different disciplines.
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Toward the conclusion of the segment, Zullo added, “It’s very somber; this is so bad. I’m not at liberty to discuss a lot of this, but this is very dark, it’s very deep, it’s very bad, and it’s very anti-American.”

Gallups responded that he harbors the hope that “very soon” Zullo will have the opportunity to testify to Congress and make public the information he has acquired.

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Post #9407 by Reality Check » Sun Mar 12, 2017 10:22 pm

In a way it would be funny to see Zullo before Congress. He would have to answer questions from Democrats too. I know a certain member or two here who would make sure those members are well armed with information about him. ;)


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Post #9408 by Notorial Dissent » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:50 pm

Sam the Centipede wrote:
mighty dawg wrote:
realist wrote:A lot of the "usual" Lyin' Carl fluffing Zullo. :snippity:

Sigh...It's such a sad sight to watch when someone has desperately over-expended their unearned fifteen minutes of fame.

And such paltry "fame": a tiny flock of right-wing :torches: nutjob :rolleye: birthers and a slightly larger :rotflmao: gaggle of giggling liberals :knitting: debunking and ridiculing their idiocy.

Now, now, fair is fair, Pasture Giddyup and his secret love interest have provided an almost never ending source of cheap, as in tawdry, free, since we certainly are giving them any money for it, wholly unintended comedy and amusement for the past several years, and are both stupid and vane enough to keep on doing so for quite some time to come.

Rharon, on the other hand is just too stupid to be really surprising or entertaining, and her comedy potential quickly expired, mostly as a result of her breathless and brainless reporting.

RC, one thing that is countable on in this particular instance is that the Kommandant ain't NEVER EVER going to willing see the inside of a court or a witness stand on any of his "earth shattering investimigations". The last thing he wants to do is testify under oath about any of it.


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Post #9409 by Sam the Centipede » Mon Mar 13, 2017 12:16 am

Notorial Dissent wrote:RC, one thing that is countable on in this particular instance is that the Kommandant ain't NEVER EVER going to willing see the inside of a court or a witness stand on any of his "earth shattering investimigations". The last thing he wants to do is testify under oath about any of it.

We know that Zullo is familiar with the protections of the Fifth Amendment as he used it to avoid either perjuring or incriminating himself during one of the Arpaio hearings. So, as you say, the evidence clearly suggests that Zullo appreciates that testifying honestly would be extremely bad for him. But highly amusing for us!



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Post #9410 by Notorial Dissent » Mon Mar 13, 2017 5:53 am

Sam the Centipede wrote:
Notorial Dissent wrote:RC, one thing that is countable on in this particular instance is that the Kommandant ain't NEVER EVER going to willing see the inside of a court or a witness stand on any of his "earth shattering investimigations". The last thing he wants to do is testify under oath about any of it.

We know that Zullo is familiar with the protections of the Fifth Amendment as he used it to avoid either perjuring or incriminating himself during one of the Arpaio hearings. So, as you say, the evidence clearly suggests that Zullo appreciates that testifying honestly would be extremely bad for him. But highly amusing for us!

True, true, he does seem to have figured that out as far as criminal court is concerned, although that wouldn't work out so well in a civil case.


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Post #9411 by Sam the Centipede » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:25 am

Notorial Dissent wrote:
Sam the Centipede wrote:
Notorial Dissent wrote:RC, one thing that is countable on in this particular instance is that the Kommandant ain't NEVER EVER going to willing see the inside of a court or a witness stand on any of his "earth shattering investimigations". The last thing he wants to do is testify under oath about any of it.

We know that Zullo is familiar with the protections of the Fifth Amendment as he used it to avoid either perjuring or incriminating himself during one of the Arpaio hearings. So, as you say, the evidence clearly suggests that Zullo appreciates that testifying honestly would be extremely bad for him. But highly amusing for us!

True, true, he does seem to have figured that out as far as criminal court is concerned, although that wouldn't work out so well in a civil case.

Civil-wise, it does mean it would be difficult for Zullo to sue anybody for defamation, doesn't it? Because he would be (cross?-)examined by the defendant under oath, and a plaintiff taking the fifth isn't likely to prevail, as I understand it (IANAL of any sort): "So, Mr. Zullo, you're saying that defendants lied but you refuse to tell us the truth? Hmmm....". IIRC from our lawyers, in a civil case, adverse inferences can be drawn (with restrictions) from someone's decision to take the fifth, yes?

So being fellated by Lyin' Carl Gallups is the only outlet Kommode-Ant Zullo has for his testimony!



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Post #9412 by Mikedunford » Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:43 am

Zullo is clearly a public figure, so he'd have to show both falsity and malice to prevail in a defamation claim. And, if I recall correctly, the burden to demonstrate falsity would be his. And, yes, if you take the fifth on matters central to whether the allegation is false, it will maybe be a little difficult to prove falsity.


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Post #9413 by ObjectiveDoubter » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:00 pm

I do think that Zullo deserves the "Emperor DOES wear clothes" award, however. It's truly remarkable that he's still promoting this nonsense periodically, even if it's only on a NE Florida self-funded radio "show." We do realize that we're the only audience, don't we?



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ObjectiveDoubter wrote:It's truly remarkable that he's still promoting this nonsense periodically, even if it's only on a NE Florida self-funded radio "show." We do realize that we're the only audience, don't we?

Rondeau! Don't forget Rondeau! But see this P&E comment:
John Hillerman wrote:This is getting ridiculous.

The excuse use to be ‘we can’t release because it is a criminal investigation’. Now that that investigation is over, the excuse is ‘we can’t release until congress investigates’. What happened to the VIPs that Gallups said were going to move this along.

I get the feeling they are never going to release the reports.

There are still a few birthers who believe this nonsense, yet even they are dwindling.

I think, for Gallups, it is an easy way to kill some air time and create some drama, to keep his minuscule audience tuned in. An interesting rhetorical tic of Gallups is that he'll often say, "People say we're tin-foil-hat-wearing, lying, conspiracy theorists ... BUT WE'RE NOT!" Gallups lets the listener know that there is criticism of his work (but never the details of the criticism), and that he's aware of the criticism (yet his "proof" of his assertions' veracity is entirely tautological).


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Post #9415 by Foggy » Mon Mar 13, 2017 1:28 pm

Poor Mr. Zullo is still under the sentence R.C. and I imposed after the fair and balanced radio trial we gave him: He was sentenced to be Mike Zullo for the rest of his life. Now it's starting to become clear just how awful that sentence is, but it's WAY TOO LATE for any kind of appeal.

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Ha Ha Ha, on LiveLeak there is a birther stuck in the time warp, and posting clips from Youtube user "Barry Soetoro"

13 Mar 2017
Obama's fake "Kenya Birth Certificate" pops up again in 2017, after fooling many "Birthers" in 2011. Mike Zullo (formerly of Maricopa County AZ Sheriff's Department) tells Carl Gallups why Obama's fake Kenya birth certificate is suddenly popping up again in 2017.

Obama's infamous "Kenya Birth Certificate" was floated in 2011 to distract researchers from Obama's forged HAWAII birth certificate and stolen CT Social Security Number. Obama's Kenyan birth certificate is widely regarded as a crude forgery -- even by government mouthpiece Snopes.

To hype Obama's bogus "Kenya Birth Certificate" in 2017, Malik Obama tweets about it to launch another round of "Kenya Madness" disinformation.

In 2017, WHY drag this sloppy Kenya forgery out of storage for another round of nonsense? Because President Trump may reveal shocking details about Obama's true background. To blunt that attack, Team Obama may be flooding the web with various forgeries that can be "disproven" to discredit researchers questioning Obama's false life story.


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Post #9417 by Reality Check » Mon Mar 13, 2017 3:48 pm

Foggy wrote:Poor Mr. Zullo is still under the sentence R.C. and I imposed after the fair and balanced radio trial we gave him: He was sentenced to be Mike Zullo for the rest of his life. Now it's starting to become clear just how awful that sentence is, but it's WAY TOO LATE for any kind of appeal.

:violin: :crying:


What a diabolically cruel sentence we imposed. :twisted:


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Post #9418 by ObjectiveDoubter » Mon Mar 13, 2017 4:35 pm

Reality Check wrote:
Foggy wrote:Poor Mr. Zullo is still under the sentence R.C. and I imposed after the fair and balanced radio trial we gave him: He was sentenced to be Mike Zullo for the rest of his life. Now it's starting to become clear just how awful that sentence is, but it's WAY TOO LATE for any kind of appeal.

:violin: :crying:


What a diabolically cruel sentence we imposed. :twisted:


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RTH10260 wrote:Ha Ha Ha, on LiveLeak there is a birther stuck in the time warp, and posting clips from Youtube user "Barry Soetoro"

13 Mar 2017

:doh: :doh: :doh:


I love the comments:

"obama is froom kenya a fact he is the assyrian anticrist gog tha son of perdition the beast tha was is not and will be,yes he will be back on power to inplant the mark of the beast the marck of hes name obama care yes trump is the last trumpet before the rapture he is Gods anoited king cyrus espirit.the dragon is the deep state the shadow goberment.the new world order will be stablish by obama and false prophet pope fransisc.
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Now class, you have five minutes to parse that sentence.



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Post #9420 by bob » Mon Mar 13, 2017 7:29 pm

P&E: John McCain: “We’ve Got a Serious Issue” if Obama Broke the Law:
In a radio interview on Friday with the lead investigator of the birth certificate probe, Mike Zullo, host Carl Gallups suggested that congressional hearings at which Zullo might testify could take place at some point. Intertwined with the birth certificate investigation was the discussion of the allegations of former NSA and CIA contractor Dennis Montgomery, who alleged that tens of millions of Americans have had their personal data harvested by government entities for years. Included in those named as victims were U.S. Supreme Court Chief Justice John G. Roberts, Associate Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, Donald Trump, Atty. Larry Klayman, 156 federal judges, and other prominent business people, according to Klayman, who began representing Montgomery in 2015.

The surveillance allegedly took place without a warrant. In late 2015, Montgomery reportedly testified on video-tape to two FBI agents in a secured room for nearly three hours and provided 600 million records pertaining to his claims.


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Post #9421 by Northland10 » Mon Mar 13, 2017 8:24 pm

Grumpy Old Guy wrote:I love the comments:

"obama is froom kenya a fact he is the assyrian anticrist gog tha son of perdition the beast tha was is not and will be,yes he will be back on power to inplant the mark of the beast the marck of hes name obama care yes trump is the last trumpet before the rapture he is Gods anoited king cyrus espirit.the dragon is the deep state the shadow goberment.the new world order will be stablish by obama and false prophet pope fransisc.
14 "

Now class, you have five minutes to parse that sentence.

So Obama is from Kenya, but is actually Assyrian and the anti-Christ, even though Assyrians are generally Christian? Makes perfect sense.

Grammarly did not care for the sentence. With all of the red lines, it looks like some secret code, or Mad Libs.

Edit: I removed the reference to "14" as I did not find it in the original comment.


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Post #9422 by mighty dawg » Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:45 am

Reality Check wrote:
Foggy wrote:Poor Mr. Zullo is still under the sentence R.C. and I imposed after the fair and balanced radio trial we gave him: He was sentenced to be Mike Zullo for the rest of his life. Now it's starting to become clear just how awful that sentence is, but it's WAY TOO LATE for any kind of appeal.

:violin: :crying:


What a diabolically cruel sentence we imposed. :twisted:

Isn't this cruel and unusual punishment?

Honestly, I can't imagine being Mike Zullo for the rest of his life. I certainly hope that Obama's Presidential Library has a section that makes fun of Mr. Zullo and his other birther associates. The Nixon Library has a whole brutally honest section on Watergate. Why shouldn't Obama have a brutally funny section on birthers?


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Post #9423 by Notorial Dissent » Tue Mar 14, 2017 2:33 am

I think having to listen to one of Giddyup's long winded fact free sermons, over and over again would be considered cruel and unusual.


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Post #9424 by Sam the Centipede » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:24 am

mighty dawg wrote:I certainly hope that Obama's Presidential Library has a section that makes fun of Mr. Zullo and his other birther associates. The Nixon Library has a whole brutally honest section on Watergate. Why shouldn't Obama have a brutally funny section on birthers?
Yes, but like birtherism it should not be about facts. Instead, how about something more metaphorical and entertaining for the young at heart? I envisage a small and very slow roller coaster with rolling stock designed to look like clown cars, each one containing a mannequin of one of the birtherati so passengers can ride along with them (the Taitz car would have a large rag doll, the Klayman car would be marked "no children, no Jews"). The roller coaster trundles round, stopping occasionally for more quarters to be inserted, and on each lap there is a crescendo of music and we hear Gallups, Zullo and others screeching "you won't believe it! this is universe-shattering! real soon now!" as the track rises up ahead promising riders a thrilling plunge into the unknown. But as the train of clown cars crests the summit riders see that there is no exciting drop as the track curves away and gently descends to its original level. The ride continues for several laps (remember, it's a metaphor) with the same big build-up each lap and the same denouement.



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Post #9425 by Notorial Dissent » Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:00 am

I think the phrase for that is lather, or maybe blather, rinse, wash, repeat, ad nauseum. Oh, and send money.


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