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On this Thanksgiving, the Religious Right is thankful that "Jesus didn't help the poor". So let that be your guide.[/break1]renewamerica.com/columns/popp/131128]http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/popp/131128Sadly, that is not the only version of that Thanksgiving message out there today.

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John Stossel sez 'be thankful for private ownership' today. Because, cannibalism.[/break1]wnd.com/2013/11/thankful-for-property/]http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/thankful-for-property/

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John Stossel sez 'be thankful for private ownership' today. Because, cannibalism.[/break1]wnd.com/2013/11/thankful-for-property/]http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/thankful-for-property/Two pornstaches at one site. Can the country survive this assault on taste?I am surprised that Stossel didn't reprise his proposition that the poor should sell their organs instead of accepting SNAP benefits, since people like him are planning on cutting them down to nothing.
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On this Thanksgiving, the Religious Right is thankful that "Jesus didn't help the poor". So let that be your guide.[/break1]renewamerica.com/columns/popp/131128]http://www.renewamerica.com/columns/popp/131128Sadly, that is not the only version of that Thanksgiving message out there today.just... "3) Helping the poor is something we get to do, not something we have to do – "you can do good."Turning a privilege into a duty is the job of the legalist, the Judaizer, the Pharisee. Faith says, "I shall run the way of Your commandments, For You will enlarge my heart." (Psalm 119:32) Need is not a demand, but an opportunity."Yes, JUDAISM demands we help the Lesser, for we Jews were the first Social Welfare/Justice society. Deut.26:19 Cursed be he that perverteth the justice due to the stranger, fatherless, and widow. And all the people shall say: Amen.

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Those Christians who worship at the altar of Fox "News" have apparently forgotten the teachings of Matthew 19:23-26, Mark 10:24-25 and Luke 18:24-25.At least our* new Pope gets it.[hr]*The world's.

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Bah. The Religious Reich is all about themselves anyway. Once they've deemed themselves saved they can disregard many Biblical passages. How about certain other Christian religions? The Mennonites come to mind. They believe if you are going to be saved you must live a Christian life for your entire life. Of course they follow the entire Bible, not just a few self-serving passages from the Book of John. IMO any "church" that isn't committed to helping their fellow man doesn't deserve tax breaks. Of course if you ask them they'll tell you they are entitled to tax breaks as written in the Constitution.Sadly, that is not the only version of that Thanksgiving message out there today.just... "3) Helping the poor is something we get to do, not something we have to do – "you can do good."Turning a privilege into a duty is the job of the legalist, the Judaizer, the Pharisee. Faith says, "I shall run the way of Your commandments, For You will enlarge my heart." (Psalm 119:32) Need is not a demand, but an opportunity."Yes, JUDAISM demands we help the Lesser, for we Jews were the first Social Welfare/Justice society. Deut.26:19 Cursed be he that perverteth the justice due to the stranger, fatherless, and widow. And all the people shall say: Amen.
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Jesus' scorn upon the wealthy selfish is reported by three of his disciples. I believe only Jesus' teaching of love is more cited in the Gospels. And yet the teachings about the rich are completely ignored by many Christians. Or that is where they see the difference, I suppose, between church and state.





(I can't find the quote right now, but several years ago Dick Armey expressed astonishment at and disapproval of a political system -- and Party -- that would help the poor.)

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I'm posting it here for lack of a better place.





Anyway, I smell a lawsuit brewing. :P





The Satanic Temple Wants to Place a Monument Outside Oklahoma’s Capitol Building. What Could Possibly Go Wrong?





December 4, 2013 By Hemant Mehta





[/break1]patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/12/04/the-satanic-temple-wants-to-place-a-monument-outside-oklahomas-capitol-building-what-could-possibly-go-wrong/]http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... -go-wrong/











Though there is an 'Atheist Bench' in Florida.





some pix of that:


[/break1]patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/06/29/american-atheists-unveils-godless-monument-in-front-of-florida-courthouse-and-announces-many-more/]http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... many-more/





It was vandalized by a kid in July who spit tobacco juice on it. But he apologized:


[/break1]patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/07/21/student-who-vandalized-american-atheists-bench-in-florida-apologizes/]http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... pologizes/

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I'm posting it here for lack of a better place.Anyway, I smell a lawsuit brewing. :P The Satanic Temple Wants to Place a Monument Outside Oklahoma’s Capitol Building. What Could Possibly Go Wrong?December 4, 2013 By Hemant Mehta [/break1]patheos.com/blogs/friendlyatheist/2013/12/04/the-satanic-temple-wants-to-place-a-monument-outside-oklahomas-capitol-building-what-could-possibly-go-wrong/]http://www.patheos.com/blogs/friendlyat ... -go-wrong/[/break1]washingtonpost.com/national/on-faith/satanists-seek-spot-on-oklahoma-statehouse-steps/2013/12/08/804c916c-6022-11e3-a7b4-4a75ebc432ab_story.html]http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/ ... story.html"We believe that all monuments should be in good taste and consistent with community standards," Greaves wrote in letter to state officials. "Our proposed monument, as an homage to the historic/literary Satan, will certainly abide by these guidelines."--Greaves said one potential design involves a pentagram, a satanic symbol, while another is meant to be an interactive display for children. --Rep. Mike Ritze, R-Broken Arrow, who spearheaded the push for the Ten Commandments monument and whose family helped pay the $10,000 for its construction, declined to comment on the Satanic Temple's effort, but Greaves credited Ritze for opening the door to the group's proposal."He's helping a satanic agenda grow more than any of us possibly could," Greaves said. "You don't walk around and see too many satanic temples around, but when you open the door to public spaces for us, that's when you're going to see us."I love this ...

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I wonder will you "love it" when you start seeing statues to Jim Crow, Bull Conner and the heroes of the clan simply because statues of MLK and Malcolm X are around, for the same reasons.Be careful when you fight with monsters...
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I wonder will you "love it" when you start seeing statues to Jim Crow, Bull Conner and the heroes of the clan simply because statues of MLK and Malcolm X are around, for the same reasons.Be careful when you fight with monsters...And what is wrong with statues to Bull Conner? This IS America after all. Aside from the fact that a statue to Bull would be covered in dog :turd: most of the time.
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From Emma's link @ WPThe Oklahoma Legislature has taken other steps that many believe blur the line that divides church and state. The House speaker said he wants to build a chapel inside the Capitol to celebrate Oklahoma’s “Judeo-Christian heritage.” Several lawmakers have said they want to allow nativity scenes and other religious-themed symbols in public schools.Rep. Bobby Cleveland, who plans to introduce a one such bill next year, said many Christians feel they are under attack as a result of political correctness. He dismissed the notion of Satanists erecting a monument at the Capitol.“I think these Satanists are a different group,” Cleveland, R-Slaughterville, said. “You put them under the nut category.”Yea, that's going to go over real well! :roll:
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The Oklahoma Legislature has taken other steps that many believe blur the line that divides church and state. The House speaker said he wants to build a chapel inside the Capitol to celebrate Oklahoma’s “Judeo-Christian heritage.” Several lawmakers have said they want to allow nativity scenes and other religious-themed symbols in public schools.Judeo-Christian meaning only Christian, of course.
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I'm still in awe of the modern inclination towards graven images of the ten commandments on every public corner.
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The Oklahoma Legislature has taken other steps that many believe blur the line that divides church and state. The House speaker said he wants to build a chapel inside the Capitol to celebrate Oklahoma’s “Judeo-Christian heritage.” Several lawmakers have said they want to allow nativity scenes and other religious-themed symbols in public schools.Judeo-Christian meaning only Christian, of course.I suspect the many Native American tribes of OK would disagree with that "Judeo-Christian heritage" thingy. :P
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I wonder will you "love it" when you start seeing statues to Jim Crow, Bull Conner and the heroes of the clan simply because statues of MLK and Malcolm X are around, [highlight]for the same reasons[/highlight].Be careful when you fight with monsters...Religious freedom?

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From Emma's link @ WP








The Oklahoma Legislature has taken other steps that many believe blur the line that divides church and state. The House speaker said he wants to build a chapel inside the Capitol to celebrate Oklahoma’s “Judeo-Christian heritage.” Several lawmakers have said they want to allow nativity scenes and other religious-themed symbols in public schools.





Rep. Bobby Cleveland, who plans to introduce a one such bill next year, said many Christians feel they are under attack as a result of political correctness. He dismissed the notion of Satanists erecting a monument at the Capitol.





“I think these Satanists are a different group,” Cleveland, R-Slaughterville, said. “You put them under the nut category.”Yea, that's going to go over real well! :roll:Did someone already point out to Mr CluelessCleveland the position of the new mosque within the Capitol?

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I wonder will you "love it" when you start seeing statues to Jim Crow, Bull Conner and the heroes of the clan simply because statues of MLK and Malcolm X are around, [highlight]for the same reasons[/highlight].Be careful when you fight with monsters...Religious freedom? Good point, Emma! Yeah, there wouldn't be as much of an issue with denying the statues Suranis described above because they do not - in any way - promote one faith over another the way a monument to the 10 Commandments would. Therefore, no one could claim that their religious rights are being violated if a city declined to display such statues.
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I'm still in awe of the modern inclination towards graven images of the ten commandments on every public corner.The right enjoys their idolatry; money, guns, power, graven images, etc.
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[link]The Raw Story,http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/12/11/r ... hristians/[/link]





Right-wing radio host Bryan Fischer says First Amendment only protects Christians


By Eric W. Dolan


Wednesday, December 11, 2013 10:45 EST





Bryan Fischer of the American Family Association said Tuesday that the founding fathers intended the First Amendment to only protect Christianity, not Islam or any other religions.





On his radio program, called Focal Point, Fischer said the word “religion” in the First Amendment referred to Christianity alone. That is why, according to Fischer, Satanists cannot seek equal representation at the Oklahoma statehouse grounds.





“At the time of the founding [of the United States], 99.8 percent of the population of the colonies were Christians. The other 0.2 percent were Jews,” he said.





“But the point is, by ‘religion’ the founders were thinking of Christianity,” Fischer continued. “So the purpose was to protect the free exercise of the Christian faith. It wasn’t about protecting anything else.”










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The last thing he said was that he wanted to talk about Santa Claus. I bet Santa just scratched him off his list.Regards ........Dick

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If I may re-use a quote originally about the Moral Majority:The Religious Right is neither.
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[/break1]msn.com/us/hindus-follow-satanists-want-display-at-okla-capitol]Now the Hindus Want a Piece of the State Capitol - Where will it end? ;) OKLAHOMA CITY — Oklahoma's decision to allow a Christian monument on its state Capitol lawn has opened the door to almost any other religious display, legal experts said, as Satanists and Hindus look to place their own statues at the site.A Satanist group has petitioned to have its monument, with an interactive display for children, put up alongside the Ten Commandments. And this week, a Hindu organization applied to have a monkey god statue placed on the Capitol grounds.Socially conservative Christian groups fought for years to have the Ten Commandants displayed at the statehouse, and the monument went up in 2012.Legislative approval was granted to the Christian groups, which were using private funds to commemorate a historical event and said they were not in violation of constitutional restrictions on the state spons...Can, worms, open, 1 each
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Oh I just can’t wait for the Muslims to jump in on this! -xx
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